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not the general population perhaps but we are talking about chankaya brahmin mat wale , and yes they are prepared to play the long game , didn't they engratiate themselves to every invader to only keep their influence e.g. Chandu, Suchanand , Nehru, Gandhi? Didn't Guru ji mention them in Gurbani as pretending to be like mallech outside but then going home and carrying on their customs ? Badal , majithia and the other 6 families are hindu brahinwad collaborators , we should treat them like the French treated collaborators after their emancipation in the world war. SYL is the last in a chain of events that stole our life blood but because we as a group were not aware of the long game and still trusting the words of our 'panthik' politicians failed to act when necessary. Now we have to make the water issue an international law issue , those who are being ripped off in a similar way will want to see us succeed because it strengthens their cases. The time is right, Guru ji is sending signs fast and furious to move now and enliven the kaum

Well my Nani ji wanted to have amrit but my Nana ji wasn't ready so what did she do ? she acted as if she was a rehitvaan gursikh and kept her nitnem and did her sehaj paats , and after they reached 70 plus my Nana ji was finally ready and they had amrit together. Did that affect her bhagti or her development ? No because she had partak darshan of Guru Teg Bahadur ji even though she wasn't amritdhari at the time . She accepted hukham and lived within it striving nonetheless because she trusted Her Guru ji . You can still do your bhagti even so

My lads can understand more than they speak because the lingua franca is english in the house but I insist on throwing in the punjabi idioms and phrases to get them used to conversational Punjabi they feel embarassed that they don't know more vocab but I have gotten in english-punjabi koshs and conversational punjabi practice cds . My Mum's great she's always challenging them to learn more ... They have a strong identification with Sikhi more so than their other grandparent's culture because they don't like the falseness of the behaviour and speech , just to flatter and preen in front of others . They like like plain talking and what you is what you get ... They've never had a problem picking up languages so I can't see them not being fluent soon . What I have experienced in my life is that if sikhi becomes part of their natural being , you cannot shake it ... big one because he was traumatised by apnay when he was tiny has trust issues with other sikhs but he still hasn't stopped being normal with me , we have major discussions about spirituality. Yes gursikhs will be of every hue and world culture , and in that will be our strength provided we make proper preps now and be welcoming and fully in sikh culture including martial arts

Unfortunately I had to start talking to Isher when she was six because she was groped by a classmate (I told the school that I didn't want to traumatise either child and wanted to let them know so they could get the parents to advise their lad what is not allowed ) . The school was impressed at the method with which I dealt with it and Isher wasn't bothered by the lad ever again . We had to go through the whole talk about not accepting behaviour that makes us feel uncomfortable and how to be safe . Recently we had the full on talk she is approaching 9 and I can see that the fact she is in an 75% muslim dominant situ means she needs to be equipped with the truth( I never BS my kids ). The lads are good in terms of running stuff past me , My only take on the whole thing is to be discerning , not rush headlong into stuff as Girls are teases (the pure truth) and manipulate guy's emotions to bolster their own egos . They have seen the clash of cultures so they get it when I say go for someone who is into sikhi rather than other faiths , they've been told to stay away from musalmahs as they would look to convert rather than become gursikhs . They knwo colour is not an issue just the sikhi

I think your attitude is reductionist to the whole situation : 1. it is not just assaults on our history to rewrite it so our Guru Sahiban become common criminals , our sacrifices nothing 2. it's the constant drip drip undermining of our Maaboli , our culture : what the Anglos started by burning our literature and kaide the Brahmins are manipulating by making people think Punjabi is backwards as a language and thus the people ... when the truth is we were a serious threat to their vice-like grip on spiritual and temporal knowledge 3. it the stealing of vital flow water , which is illegal under international law and the fact that no money has been given in compensation means ripping off the kaum twice . The usage of borewells to cover the desperate lack of water means we have been forced into signing our own economic and physical deaths (cancer from uranium pollution) 4. Ask the tibetans about about the problems of outsiders trying to annihilate your culture through physical destruction, faith interference (kidnap of llamas), rape of womenfolk (much like shudikaran in Punjab), removal of religious historical texts (like loot of Sikh Library Amritsar), land grabs (sikhs in Rajasthan, Gujrat and elsewhere), disappearences of youths intent on supporting and rebuilding the faith , they've been through what we have and they do not feel it is identity politics but simple genocide of a people . The only way they could survive is to send their children to walk for three weeks through the mountains to safe haven in Dharamshala where they are reviving the old skills and ways through apprenticeships in art, calligraphy, dance, folklore, faith workshops and history lessons. They are getting busy rebuilding and making their future on solid foundations. what you are kind of saying it don't matter what's so wrong in a brown white mentality . Being a coconut means you lose connection to your true heritage and at the same time gain nothing from the new group you have joined as they see you as weak and not worthy. It is more than just an identity , being a sikh - is a knowing of where you belong, a striving to be the best servant of the panth and Guru ji , a fearlessness to show Guru ji does not make mistakes that a Gursikh is created with intention to make the world a better place for all.

if people ACTUALLY READ or listened to chaitropakiyan they would wake up a bit ...it is basically the warning we are meant to give our kids since we received it from our GuruPita ji too. We cannot afford to do the victorian thing and not tell our kids anything because it makes us uncomfortable only to have some miscreant do them over . I mean in my household we do not watch any bollywood stuff but hollywood and the music scene is bad enough to make my lads reckon there is something wrong unless they have girlfriend ... They seem to drop their heart easily and at the wrong type girl's feet ,I don't think I'm the only one seeing the blatant sexualising of everything and the age group getting lower and lower . The number of child on child sexual assaults are growing , the latest I read an 11 year old raped over five under 13s after getting influenced by porn and our kids can access it through their smartphones , forget about just policing the PCs. We need to talk to the lads just as much as the lasses, if the guys think it's OK to be loose morally they will not protect their sisters , because of the liberal agenda ....

'Jattan' da gurdwara is in an old Church building where the diwan is in the Church and the langar is in an attached building, most times the diwan hall is quiet especially midweek , he was apparently tackled by a member of sangat so I'm guessing that Guru ji was not totally alone but minimal sangat presence was there, most sangat is older generation .

there is an app to learn to read larivaar ...available on android and apple

go Indian then ... That's the only not to get mixed into the whole arab question ...

I read about this on FB yesterday it was at woolwich Gurdwara but the report falsely said it was apna who did it ... Please for God's sake don't give this scumbag the mental health excuse because he knew what he was doing ... I hope they throw the book at him instead of saying chalo koi gall nahin vechare da dimag vich pharak si and dropping charges . Send the message that this will not be tolerated .

for those who were asking about Badal and Jaito , I first read about it in another place but Surinder SIngh interviewed Singhs who found the evidence:

Mum got mucked about so much by them and she told them she wasn't able to carry her luggage for long due to arthritis, They had her transferring by bus to travel onwards from Delhi when they could have put her on a flight from the same terminal building (linked flights and all that) but no then on the way back she had sit waiting for hours between flights and you know how they won't let you into the lounge to wait unless you have less than three hours wait ... Anyways she's sworn off Air India, I think she or Masi have used Turkish before they seemed to be OK . I usually travel direct using BA or Virgin ...Lufthansa is the pits I lost 20 hours in delays going /coming from my bro's wedding in 2000 and that was really hard because I had twin babies and a toddler in tow and used up my formula in the airport before getting onto the flight and there was nowhere to get more in terminal. I thought I'd give them another chance in 2012 and lost two seats on the flight home because they lost my mum in the terminal (she hopped on a buggy because of the long fast walk) .

Islam is the only faith promoting the idea of 'serving boys' 'virgins' in jannat to do with what you will ...and I seem to remember a musalah comeback to Jagraj Veer ji if there isn't that but only Bhagti in Jannat then why would I want to go ? (hyde park series). Looking at the popular sites names list in Pakistan there seem to be a lot of incest related ones ...sick puppies . Yeah could be the strictness of purdah turns them into raving maniacs ...but methinks the faith doesn't help with so much kaamic thought encouragement both in this lok and the next..

but it doesn't stop them criticising and belittling those of lesser opportunities than themselves in life which is so Antigurmat . Honestly, I would take all those jaaat named gurdwarey and rename them Gurdwara Naam Niwas ...

seen it more in Pakistan then in Punjab , even pakistani /Indian freshies I've seen doing this in Green Street , but they soon stop . What's with the long painted pinky fingernail ? is that some kind of drug implement or code like the pierced ear in guys( meaning guy likes guys)

they were showing sabar and listening her ranting , and asked her to explain what they are doing wrong... I guess they were trying to be accommodating to vechari gori .... yeah us brownies can be a little patronising too ...

Baljit SIngh (BOS) put it like this : SIkhi is like licking a stone , for many there is no reward of sweet taste but that doesn't mean don't try to do your best to keep rehit . The rewards will come ... I find that those kids who get sikhi into the hearts and bones will not waver as adult because it is so enmeshed with their personalities and outlook and if they have been taught well it will be unconsciously present , so no haumai about it .

But the non amritdhari will be breaking the amritdhari away from their rehit so it's a no-no , honestly if you are marrying a partner with that status you are not being forced but are choosing so that means you should be prepared to commit to sikhi properly otherwise what is the point?

I reckon we influenced their cuisine and there is quite a lot of similarity in between the two cultures attitudes to family honour and loyalty, extended family, sense of humour. Maybe it's me but after Alexander died there seemed to be cooling of the whole bro-mance scene ...could this be conservative hetero attitude from Punjab?

there is a scientific genetic theory which proposes it is not just physical but also behavioural traits pass down , referred to as meme theory , Many cultures have noted that the child of a person who has negative/positive traits is more likely to display the same traits whether it's nuture or nature not sure the proportions . In India people used to shun earnings of dodgy business coming into the home as it would taint those fed with it, especially the kids . We try or rather we pray for deliverance from our karmic load through Guru ji's grace , we have no power to change by ourselves

I know that many misl leaders are guilty of breach of rehit and unfair treatment of the populace including severe taxation etc of the poor ... human nature in power is always bound to be corrupted unless the vikars are reigned strongly by gurmat rehit and constant working at staying true to Guru ji . The reason why people mention the ancestors of the main players in sikh politics in Punjab is because it shows that the character of the people passing down the generations as Guru Sahiban warned/told us e.g. General Shahbeg SIngh ji is descendent of Bhai Mehtab Singh ji, Sant ji was decendent of the branch of Brar clan who stayed true to Guru Sahib and achieved his blessing and General Brar is from the branch of the clan that chose golak's paise above Guru ji and got his displeasure. Yes Nehru is from Gangu's descendents literally not just a say so ...this is from research into the Hindu birthcharts/records going back through the generations .

Jagraj Veer ji has a point SIkhi is of the world , for the whole world ....there should be any borders for its message and we shouldn't create any because of our lack

bro amritdhari means gursikh even if charan di pahul , i.e. totally dedicated to Guru Sahib.

bro , panj piarey told me unless both are gursikh they have stay as brother and sister because a gursikh cannot do sang of a patit/non gursikh

bro haven't you seen the Chinese bibian and Japanese Sikhs ? There were loads in Patna for Gurpurab celebrations, and you will see a lot of ex RC spaniards and South Americans giving sikh testimonies on YT