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  1. Palbinder Kaur Shergill, a prominent Sikh lawyer in British Columbia, Canada, was appointed a BC Supreme Court Justice by the Trudeau government. She was born in Rurka Kalan in Jalandhar and is thought to be the first turbanned judge in Canada. "She has represented the WSO in landmark cases in front of the Supreme Court of Canada including the right of Sikh students to wear the kirpan (a ceremonial knife) in schools, and the right of a Catholic high school to teach an ethics and religious culture course from a Catholic perspective." Just as a point of clarification, despite the name, the BC Supreme Court is not the supreme court in British Columbia. BC courts start with the Provincial Courts, then the BC Supreme Court, then the Court of Appeal. So the "Supreme" Court is the mid-level court. See I'm sure some among our people will do what they always do, and try to pull her down. "There are certain people in this world who are infected with “the lobster syndrome”. These are the people who cannot stand to see other people do well. They will pinch, pull, and pry to try and drag anyone else down who appears to be progressing ahead of them." Despite my differences with some of her opinions (she's an advisory board member of the Sikh Feminist Research Institute), I'm glad she has been appointed.
  2. I wouldn't be too sure about this. David Cameron's Tory government was to make a law "to make it easier for prospective parents to adopt children from different racial or cultural backgrounds, Michael Gove has announced." Gove himself was adopted. But I don't know if that law got passed. In any case, I am not too keen on interracial or inter-cultural adoption. Interracial adoption is not all peaches and rainbows. From a Time Magazine article on interracial adoption: “I can’t tell you how often I hear white adoptive parents say ‘Well, we don’t have anything around. We live in a rural community. The closest black person is three hours away,’” says Goller-Sojourner, “It only takes one or two people calling you a n—– to stick. The difference is that when a black person is called a racially charged name, they go home and get the love and support from parents who look like them. I went home and got that same love from people who looked just like my tormentors. " Growing up, he was surrounded by white culture. His parentslistened to Lawrence Welk during dinner. His mother watched Masterpiece Theater and All My Children. They vacationed in Montana. He doesn’t remember a black person ever being invited into his house. Today Goller-Sojourner wants to spare future generations of adoptees his long winter of self-hatred. Which means when he meets with adoptive parents he shoots down what he sees as a transparent resistance to diversity. She encouraged her daughter to apply for Chinese mentorship programs at UCal, though Scott resisted because growing up she found herself increasingly disinterested in exploring her Chinese culture. She’s only attracted to white boys and the majority of her friends were white. Interracial adoption is more to make the parents feel good than it is about considering the feelings and needs of the child. In 1978, Congress passed a law called the Indian Child Welfare Act that governs removal of Indian (Native American) children from their homes: ICWA gives tribal governments a strong voice concerning child custody proceedings that involve Indian children, by allocating tribes exclusive jurisdiction over the case when the child resides on, or is domiciled on, the reservation, or when the child is a ward of the tribe; and concurrent, but presumptive, jurisdiction over non-reservation Native Americans’ foster care placement proceedings.[2] ICWA was enacted in 1978 because of the disproportionately high rate of removal of Indian children from their traditional homes and essentially from Indian culture as a whole. Before enactment, as many as 25 to 35 percent of all Indian children were being removed from their Indian homes and placed in non-Indian homes, with presumably an absence of Indian culture. So basically, before this Act, Indian children were being systematically removed from Indian homes and placed into non-Indian homes, a process which could be described as a slow genocide. I support the way Congress acted to protect the Indian people. But, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Which is why really don't have any problems with the adoption agency in the article above saying that this Sikh couple should adopt from India. What, exactly, is wrong with that? Secondly, why do they want to adopt a white child? Status? I do agree it's fashionable for liberal white parents to adopt non-white children as a token of their "virtuosity". Why's it good for non-white couples to adopt white children as tokens?
  3. Context is very important: the driver of the vehicle was ... a middle aged white guy member of EDL? No, actually, the driver was a 42 year old Muslim woman! Btw, I wonder if you remember when there were a bunch of accidents of Toyota cars where people claimed the car was suddenly accelerating when they desired to brake. Some people speculated that they were actually hitting the accelerator mistakenly.
  4. Some people believe the Air India incident was discovered by Canadian intelligence to have been done through RAW, and once they discovered that, they did everything possible (including destroying evidence, for which they were condemned by the judge) to cover it up, since Canada didn't want to jeopardize trade deals with India. Islamic terror attacks in the last 30 days: "During this time period, there were 158 Islamic attacks in 30 countries, in which 1534 people were killed and 1843 injured. "
  5. Seriously? You didn't read the news about people shutting down highways for weeks on end? And then gathering in the hundreds of thousands at the "Sarbat Khalsa" (regardless of whether you agree with all the resolutions read out at that event). What did you want Sikhs to do? Maraud down the streets killing random people? They'd have to be random, because nobody knows who did the original beadbi.
  6. You know, it has sometimes been considered a virtue that Sikh men didn't look at women. I'm sure you have heard the story, very often told to praise Sikhism, of an Englishwoman who travelled on a long railyway journey with Master Tara Singh also sitting in front of her. She was so praiseful of Master ji who, she said, did not look at her even once, not a glance, not a side-look, not once. But you say not looking at a woman is bad. You may also have heard of the story of Lakhsman, who when asked what Sita looked like, said he didn't know because he had never looked at her. Do you know what he was thinking? Anyway, news for you: (many) old people are ornery. Just happens with age (for some). Some people mellow out, other people get crusty. I'm sure Theresa May can get nasty at times. Even Saint Jeremy Corbyn, widely considered to be such a "nice guy", is also said to be nasty, like using mafia don tactics and sacking an underling while she was under treatment for breast cancer without giving her notice. Now you can say, no, he's not really nasty, he's misunderstood, he actually has a lot of nice qualities, but all of that also can apply to the nasty grampa you're talking about: You told us a few bad qualities, but you didn't tell us any of his good qualities. Did he actually say that? If you check our rehitnammas, it says not to mingle with sirgums (monas). While not denying the rehitnammas, I would like to say that social exclusion works when you have a thousand Sikhs, and one of them cuts their hair. Once you boycott them, then they come to their senses. But it's quite a different matter when you have a majority of sirgums! Who all can you boycott? But not being a jackass to monas when they come to sangat is not violative of any Sikh injunctions. So I'd like to encourage everybody to be nice to everybody.
  7. You've brought up an important issue. I will agree with some aspects of what you said, and disagree with others below. Don't confuse one for the other. You haven't given any examples of how they boasted. Could you do so? As for thinking that what you're doing is great, and encouraging other people to do it, everyone does that. Surfers encourage non-surfers to surf. Hikers encourage non-hikers to hike. Players of Dungeons & Dragons encourage non-players to play. Political activists encourage people to register to vote and donate to candidates. Drinkers encourage non-drinkers to drink. Non-drinkers encourage drinkers to stop drinking. Smokers encourage non-smokers to smoke. Non-smokers encourage smokers to stop. But the only thing that people should not encourage people to do is to take Amrit? In any case, the amritdhari lifestyle is a wondrous lifestyle. Sikhs believe: ਪੀਵਹੁ ਪਾਹੁਲ ਖੰਡੇਧਾਰ ਹੌਇ ਜਨਮੁ ਸੁਹੇਲਾ | (Bhai Gurdas II, Vaar 41, Pauri 1) Drink the pahul of the Khanda (amrit) so your life may become suhela. Now, what is suhela? Here's some quotes to get you started: ਸਭੇ ਕਾਜ ਸੁਹੇਲੜੇ ਥੀਏ ... ਸੁਹੇਲਾ ਕਹਿਨ ਕਹਾਵਨ ਤੇਰਾ ਬਿਖਮ ਭਾਵਨ ... ਤਿਚਰੁ ਵਸਹਿ ਸੁਹੇਲੜੀ ... ਹਰਿ ਕੀ ਕਥਾ ਸੁਹੇਲੀ ... The dictionary defines suhela as "easy, comforting, soothing". Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha defines it as, among other things, as sukhi or suhkhdai. Sukh meaning "comfort, ease, feeling of relief or freedom from anxiety, happiness or contentment, felicity, tranquility". In other words, total awesomeness. That's what Sikhs (such as the beloved Sikh of Guru Gobind Singh ji, Bhai Gurdas II) believe Sikhism to be. And if you thought, as Sikhs do, that Sikhism is so awesome, why would you not tell everyone you know about it? 2. OK, now you may say, alright, fine, everyone on this earth encourages other people people to do what they're doing, but the one, solitary group of people prevented from doing so is because is Amritdhari Sikhs because ... Sikhs don't preach? Well, I'm sorry, but that is just made up, I don't know where people got that from other than from their nether regions. If you think that you're not supposed to tell others about Sikhism, Satguru doesn't agree with you: ਆਪਿ ਜਪਹੁ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵਹੁ ॥ Chant the Naam yourself, and cause others to chant it. ਗਉੜੀ ਸੁਖਮਨੀ (ਮ: ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੨੯੦ Raag Gauri Sukhmanee Guru Arjan Dev As any speaker of Punjabi knows, you have verbs where you're doing something, like ਲਿਖਣਾ (to write) and then you have the causative construction like ਲਿਖਾਉਣਾ (to have someone write, to cause someone to write). Similarly, ਜਪਨਾ (recite) and ਜਪਾਉਨਾ (cause to recite). Now "cause to recite" doesn't mean at the edge of a sword, but still it means having other people recite (not keeping it just to yourself, like you started out your post with). Just in case you didn't get it the first time, Guru Sahib repeats the hukum: ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਧੂੜਿ ਮੰਗੈ ਤਿਸੁ ਗੁਰਸਿਖ ਕੀ ਜੋ ਆਪਿ ਜਪੈ ਅਵਰਹ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ Servant Nanak begs for the dust of the feet of that GurSikh, who himself chants the Naam, and causes others to chant it. ||2|| Raag Gauri Guru Ram Das So not only does Guru Sahib want us to tell other people about Amrit, but Guru Sahib begs for the the feet of the Sikh who does so. A person who tells others about the awesomeness of Sikhi and Amrit is not "hankari" like you say, but rather apple of Guru Sahib's eye. More to come.
  8. Thanks. It's good to see that you are clued-in. As for Sikhs out there who might be wonder if the likes of you or me are falling into a pro-white, anti-Muslim, anti-nonwhite narrative, I'll say: If your parents wanted to live in Saudi Arabia, they would have immigrated there. They didn't. They came to a "white" country. They knew what the score was. The fact is, the whites of today are quite mellow. Not the same for the radicalized Islamic hordes coming through.
  9. Highly doubtful that samparda Singhs are using some dye to keep their beard black. If they are using oil to replenish minerals, etc., like mustard oil, or amla oil, that's a different matter. Anyway, in case you are wondering, the prohibition on coloring your beard (or hair) is not just another random rehit (people think, "Oh no, yet another rehit to fulfill, it never ends!") The reason is tied into hukum. Once you accept hukum (the will of God), then you accept the way God made you, and you accept your body. You also accept the finality and inevitability of death, and of the aging process. Not dyeing your hair is acceptance of God's will. And, on the other hand, trying to mess with your body is defiance of his will.
  10. 1. A waqf is basically a Muslim charity. I had a glancing understanding that the Punjab Waqf Board is constituted by the Punjab Government to administer waqf properties in Punjab. I had a look at its website , but I didn't bother to read the PDFs of laws related to the Waqf Board. One of the things claimed on the site is that waqfs in India originate from Muslim rulers from up to 800 years ago reserving land for Islamic purposes: "The approximate number of registered Waqf properties in India is 3,00,000 and account for 4 lakh acres of land. According to the Deputy Chairman of the Rajya Sabha, Sh. Rahman Khan, this makes the Boards the third-largest landholder after the Railways and Defence. A surrender of properties to God, a Waqf deed is irrevocable and perpetual." This seems questionable to me, since the "Muslim rulers" were invaders who usurped the existing residents' lands. To now reclaim them for Muslims in perpetuity hardly seems equitable. 2. Regardless of all that, I was unable to find anything specifically regarding grooming and Alam. I have no doubt that he's the sort of guy would love to see Muslims grooming non-Muslims, but do you have any other info? Thanks.
  11. Would you care to elaborate?
  12. First of all, if you were alive at the time of the 10th Guru, and Guru Sahib told you (in words) to keep your hair (or to do anything else), would you do so? I.e., do you accept or deny the authority of Guru Sahib? If you don't accept the authority of Guru Ji, there's no point in further discussion. Secondly, in order to get a frame of reference, are you only doubting the turban? Or are you doubting the injunction to keep sabat surat (complete form, including hair)? Once we know the answers to these questions, we can move forward on a dialogue.
  13. You do know the Indian word is choli, right? There was an extremely popular (and controversial) song called "Choli ke peeche kya hai"
  14. I see nothing wrong with Sikh institutions setting conditions for entry. In this case, girls have to not be wearing revealing clothes and have to be wearing a chunni to get a certificate for entry under the Sikh quota. They have to have Kaur in their name. They have to have long hair. Boys have to have untrimmed beards and turbans and Singh in the name. Everyone needs to have knowledge of Sikhism. I'm sure our self-hating Sikhs will start bleating about this, but if someone wants to live like a Hindu, or an atheist, they're free to do so, but the Sikh Sangat is not going subsidize them. I don't know who is behind this, but if it's Manjit Singh GK (President of the Delhi Gurdwara Committee), props to him for this.
  15. I do know that rehitvan Singhs don't eat before doing their morning Nitnem, and there is also a rehitnama to this effect. But I don't know of any such injunction for the nighttime. That's probably because normally you do Kirtan Sohila right before you go to bed. Can't you do your extra paath before Kirtan Sohila? Do paath, eat, then do Kirtan Sohila on your bed.