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  1. We teach an intelligent fighting system based on traditional battlefield and street fighting principles. Various weaponry is taught, including modern and traditional blades (sword and knife), axe, spear/staff. Hand to hand fighting using internal striking methods, mastery of body mechanics and strategy is taught. Alongside kara and puratan shastar are taught, as well as street psychology and tactics’. All variations of weaponry and hand to hand scenario is based on one fundamental set of fighting principles, movement and energy. Classes are only for those who are prepared to treat them as a high priority in their life. They are not for hobbyists or those wanting to tick a cultural or Sikh tick box. The Yudh Vidhya is taught to those who wish to become ‘Abhiyaasi’ of it. Classes are taught in a strictly respectful and family atmosphere. No rude or inappropriate behaviour is tolerated. All are brother and sisters. Girls are taught with boys, but practice and train separately. We teach in West London, East London, London Bridge and Coventry. We are not affiliated with any personalities or any jathaa. All classes start and end with ardaas to Akaal. If you are SERIOUS about learning, send an email to elusivefighting@gmail.com. State your prior MA experience and speak a little bit about yourself. Tell us why you would like to learn. Dhanvaad. Sri Akaal Ji Sahae
  2. Organic is not good enough. It is 'killed' milk. Pasterised and homoginsed. You need RAW organic.
  3. Please like this page and keep upto date on issues ethical regarding your diet. Guru has said that milk and ghee are the best foods. We should increase their intake, even if it means lowering intake of other foods. Alterntaive milks have artificial derived (and low) nutrition, have been highly processed etc. Real milk is a super food. Medicinal. Has whey, proteins, omega 3 fats, a complete food. Sadly ALL supermarket milk, including organic, is plastic milk. Dead. Pasterised and homoginised. RAW milk is the way to go. Our sangat of over 70 familes has been consuming raw milk for over a year now (some for a few years). Healths have massively improved for all. Kids who would not touch milk, love this milk. People with asthma abe eczma have seen big improvements in health. Weight-strength trainerers use this as the original protein shake (it has whey and proteins in complete natural form). Most nutrition is killed in regular pasterisation process. Raw milk also has all the beneficial bacteria still alive. Boosting your immune system. This is one of the fundamental purposes of milk, that which copycat milk cannot replicate. If anyone is interesting in joining our sangat co-op of getting raw milk from the most ethical farm in the country get in touch on the facebook page or on khalsaethics@gmail.com. This is a not for profit seva using numbers to play the ethical economics game. The farm we use feeds cows organic only. Has acres of fields which they graze the cozw on daily. Milk them only once a day. Calves live with mums for between 6-9 months AND cows are officially retired after milk producing days are over. Cows here live to around 12-14 years as opposed to 4-5 in the regular high intensity industrial dairy industry. Please read: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=840783775934371&id=819349488077800 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=830012770344805&id=819349488077800 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=829842553695160&id=819349488077800 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=823339317678817&id=819349488077800 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=822468654432550&substory_index=0&id=819349488077800
  4. The mot important seva of shastar is learning how to use them. Sadly this is something majority of quom do not take seriously. It's much more a spoken subject than a practiced one. The same way it is disrespectful to keep gutke or have Maharajs prakaash at home, but never do paath from them, or khoj in them, same is true for this expanding culture in our Panth of naujwaan keeping museum collections of shastar on display but never training and with them daily or partaking in Yudh Abhyaas. To keep Bani or Shastar at home and not making daily and intelligent effort to LEARN form them is nothing more than Idol Worship. When one see's the LIVING benefit which derived from Bhagti and Shakti, then one's prem is automatically kindled and the SEVA and affection described in the above posts becomes an act of LOVE rather than an historic ritual. Enliven the Khalsa Marg. VahiGurujikiPat-h
  5. VahiGurujikaKhalsaVahiGurujikiPat-h Elusive Fighting is on SKY Sikh Channel tonight between 7pm and 8pm. It will be part of the Sikh Organisation for Prisoner Welfare show. Students who attended the Fighting For Freedom seminars in order to raise money for our innocent Khalsa families illegally tortured and imprisoned in India, will be interviewed and the seminar video shown: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=334174250062645&set=vb.432861230092196&type=3&theater For those who don't have SKY, you can watch here: http://www.sikhchannel.tv/watchus/ Please find ways to get involved and help SOPW and help raise funds for our forgotten Heroes. It's fine celebrating and remembering Shaheeds at smagams etc, but let us not wait until our Heroes are dead to celebrate their bravery and good deeds, and indeed, let us focus our TIME AND EFFORTS MORE on trying to help and support those, and the families of those, that are still ALIVE. Anyone interested in learning with the School of Elusive Fighting please email: e l u s i v e f i g h t i n g @ g m a i l . c o m BhulChukMaakKarni Dhanvaad Ji
  6. After the baby is a year, I would advice moving to this : http://organicrawmilk.co.uk/raw-organic-milk-delivery/ Your usual pasterised milk is void of nutrition and is massively paap intensive. These guys use ethical dairies where calves are left with the Cow for 6 momths (instead of instant beef burgers or worse, dumped in the bin because meat is so cheap today, it is cheaper to throw anmials away than pay for the processing costs). Plus the cows have a natural and nutritious diet, roam and eat on clean fields and live an average of 14 years as opposed to the factory farmed 4 years (which is the milk you drink). They also use higher quality Jersey cows.
  7. If the baby breast feeds, no issues, ensure mother has a good diet. In Punjab we traditionally give the mother pinniyan made of a mix of highly nutricious and calorific nuts, seeds and herbs. This ensure super quality mil for the baby. Problem today is bibiyan are too worries about their weight and many do not partake in this special diet anymore (which also helps the mother to recover and build up strength super fast). Otherwise, ignore all the mainstream baby milk powders as mentioned above, they have a lot of rubbish in their and the milk is low grade, plus many babies have digetion issues with these cheap products. Use these guys, best and most ethical on the market: http://www.hipp.co.uk/milk-feeding If you want to go traditional, in Punjab, if a mother could not give milk, they would the baby Goat milk. This contains more anitbodies and vitamins than Gaa(n) or Maj da dhudh becase of the more varied diet of the Goat. After 6 months, they moved to Gaa(n), after a year to the super heavy stuff, Maj. Hope this helps.
  8. This is disgusting. You would not see this happen to old people from other ethnic backgrounds which are more 'feared'. It's high time SIKHS stopped being seen as EASY TARGETS. PLEASE make 'STREET FIGHTING STRATEGY AND PSYCHOLOGY' part of your rehit. AS IT SHOULD BE. Learn any good fighting art. BUT NOT AS A HOBBY. Learn it as a passion. Give it the same discipline and reverence you do your NITNEM and Simran. Learn what YUDH ABHYAAS is. This is the only way you will understand what TYAAR BAR TYAAR means. If you are not learning anything else already, free to get in touch. We teach how to deal with these sorts of scumbags, very effectivally. We have a class in the same City this disgusting attack took place, Coventry. We also teach in Southall, London Bridge and Ilford. H Singh 07967 638212 or elusive fighting@gmail.com Avar Basna Nahi(n) Prabh, Dharam Yudh Ki Chai 10th Divine General
  9. Thanks. Afaid not. They are inter-active - Student to Teacher. The aim is to establish professional high quality education (something missing in our Quam).
  10. Last year TURIYA Charity assisted by the School of Elusive Fighting, organised Summer Martial Arts Seminars to raise funds for the amazing..... Bhai Nand Lal Project. The project is not a 'memorial' website. It is an erstwhile attempt to help ENLIVEN the highly sophisticated, artistic and spiritual SIKH CULTURE, which has sadly and slowly diminished over the last few centuries. As a natural next step, TURIYA is bringing to the world sangat the first ever dedicated on-line Farsi in the Sikh Tradition beginners course. The aim is to empower Sikhs to retrieve their heritage and for the sangat to develop the skill of doing the amazing Zafarnama and Bhai Nand Lals ghazals JUSTICE. There are only a few places remaining for serious and dedicated students. If interested follow the instructions on the poster! TURIYA Our aim is to galvanise a flourishing global Sikh culture by innovatively enlivening Sikh tenets and heritage, and serve the Sikh community by providing a multitude of intelligent resources for its spiritual, educational and social development. As a part of this vision, we launched a website on Bhai Nand Lal and the Court of Guru Gobind Singh back in February 2013. This online interactive course is an extension of the website, with the purpose of providing the global Sikh panth with an enlivened understanding of the Persian heritage of Sikhi.
  11. 2 successful seminars delivered, 3 to go... you can still join in! Learn the principles of intelligent defence and learn to THINK (rather than regurgitate techniques). Do sangat in a GurMat atmoshphere and enjoy healthy snacks. Kick start the HUKUM of Dasmesh Pita with most of us do not follow.. start your journey in the art of FIGHTING. MOST IMPORTANTLY - SUPPORT YOUR INNOCENT BROTHERS AND SISTERS, SUFFERING IN INDIAS CRUEL JAILS UNDER FALSE CHARGES, AND SUPPORT THEIR HELPLESS FAMILIES. Get in touch and book your place - Mob: 07967 638212 Email: elusivefighting@gmail.com Pics from seminar 1 https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.605370872841230.1073741825.432861230092196&type=1
  12. VahiGurujikaKhalsaVahiGurujikiPat-h Via the invite of a sangat in East London, Elusive Fighting will be holding an Intro Seminar THIS SUNDAY 4th August - 11am to 3.30pm for those who are looking to seriously learn the traditional 'fighting' arts. Our aim is to promote a 'martial culture' rather than provide simple MA tick box exercise, in that you will inherit and be able to pass on a 'thinking' or 'live' fighting culture to your next generation. This is not sport nor demo orientated. You will learn the art of the sword, stick, knife and hand to hand as per 'extant' fighting cultures. We will also show you how one set of principles is applicable to all scenarios. Kara and Sri Sahib use amongst many other weapons is also taught as per the schools transposable knowledge of the South East Asian Arts. We do not want window shoppers or 'comparors'. Call H Singh on 07967 638212 or email elusivefighting@gmail.com if you would like to attend, we will send you more details. Sri Akaal Ji Sahe
  13. Please spread the word. Make an effor to support and attend the event, come to as many seminars as you can, we are flexible on attendance.
  14. Following the success of the Bhai Nand Lal Project “Street Awareness” seminars last year, EY Sikh Group has kindly offered to host this summers Sikh fundraising Martial Arts event of the year, Fighting for Freedom. Hosted at Waterloo overlooking the Houses of Parliament, join like-minded intelligent individuals and arm yourself with practical knowledge on how to deal with knife attacks, escape grabs and hold ups, and improve your health and breathing using ancient martial exercises. See how the ancient fighting arts of South East Asia are still applicable in the modern context. Alongside, enjoy home made healthy snacks and drinks, and use the friendly, respectful and family atmosphere to network and do sangat. The event will be delivered over 5 seminars, taking place every Tuesday evening starting from the 6th August 2013. Arrival time 6pm. Seminar time 6.15pm to 9.15pm. Our goal is to raise AT LEAST £2,000 for this excellent charity and collectively do our part in supporting our suffering and forgotten brothers and sisters, who are innocent victims of India’s corrupted judicial and political system. If the Khalsa truly is ONE FAMILY, then it is about time we started feeling each others pain and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Donation for the 15 hours over 5 seminars is £50 (great value @ £3.33 per hour). That includes all refreshments. If anyone else would like to donate to this cause, they are most welcome and if any participants would like to donate more, they too, are most welcome. EVERY SINGLE PENNY RAISED WILL GO TO SOPW. Sevadaars will cover all seminar expenses at their own cost. Important contacts (if you are lost): Lovepreet Singh - Mob: +44 (0)794 111 0323 Manraj Singh - Mob: +44 (0)750 087 7554 What to wear: Loose/comfortable clothing, flat soled trainers/plimsolls, not running shoes. Tight keski or patka for Singhs. Training equipment will be provided. Where: Becket House 1 Lambeth Palace Road London SE1 7EU Nearest tube: Waterloo (7 mins walking) We are looking forward to seeing you. Map link - http://goo.gl/maps/lBoR
  15. VahiGurujikaKhalsaVahiGurujikPat-h Come and enjoy a learn tradititional martial exercises and intelligent responses to street violence in a respectful and intellgent environment and do sangat with like minded Panthic indivuduals. Enjoy home made organic vegetarian food. Support your brothers and sisters, children of Dasmesh Pita, who are languishing in India's cruel jails. 100% of funds goes to Sikh Organisation for Prisoner Welfare. Send your name and contact number to H Singh on elusivefighting@gmail.com to book your places. ParmAtma Aap Ji Nu Dharam a te Khushiyan Bakshan Sri Akaal Ji Sahae
  16. Following the success of the Bhai Nand Lal Project “Street Awareness” seminars last year, Ernst & Young Sikh Group has kindly offered to host this summers Sikh fundraising Martial Arts event of the year, Fighting for Freedom. Hosted at Waterloo overlooking the Houses of Parliament, join like-minded intelligent individuals and arm yourself with practical knowledge on how to deal with knife attacks, escape grabs and hold ups, and improve your health and breathing using ancient martial exercises. See how the ancient fighting arts of South East Asia are still applicable in the modern context. Here is a small glimpse of what you will learn (click the link below to view a taster video): https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282012048612199&set=vb.432861230092196&type=3&theater Alongside, enjoy home made healthy snacks and drinks, and use the friendly, respectful and family atmosphere to network and do sangat. The event will be delivered over 5 seminars, taking place every Tuesday evening starting from the 6th August 2013. Arrival time 6pm. Seminar time 6.15pm to 9.15pm. This year, 100% of funds raised will be going to Sikh Organisation for Prison Welfare. There are 10,000s of innocent Sikh prisoners who remain forgotten by us and who are living a hellish existence in the worst prisons on Earth. YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Please click the link below for more information on this most vital cause. http://www.prisonerwelfare.org/ Our goal is to raise AT LEAST £2,000 for this excellent charity and collectively do our part in supporting our suffering and forgotten brothers and sisters, who are innocent victims of India’s corrupted judicial and political system. If the Khalsa truly is ONE FAMILY, then it is about time we started feeling each others pain and DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. Donation for the 15 hours over 5 seminars is £50 (great value @ £3.33 per hour). That includes all refreshments. If anyone else would like to donate to this cause, they are most welcome and if any participants would like to donate more, they too, are most welcome. EVERY SINGLE PENNY RAISED WILL GO TO SOPW. Sevadaars will cover all seminar expenses at their own cost. Places are limited to 40, so book your place early to avoid disappointment. Please book you place by the 2nd of August 2013. As this is a charity event, donations are non-refundable, irrelevant of attendance. To book your place, please email Harcharan Singh on elusivefighting@gmail.com Please pay in your £50 donation to the Turiya Charity Bank Account: Account Name: Turiya Sort Code: 08-92-99 Account Number: 65544019 Alternatively kindly give your donation to one of our sevadaars (check with us to locate your nearest one) and let us know (email above address) when you have done so. Everyone welcome, Sikh and Non-Sikh, but please understand that there will be a Sikh spiritual ethos underlining the seminars. Click below to get a preview of last Summers Seminar: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.440215202690132.101343.432861230092196&type=3 Important contacts (if you are lost): Lovepreet Singh - Mob: +44 (0)794 111 0323 What to wear: Loose/comfortable clothing, flat soled trainers/plimsolls, not running shoes. Tight keski or patka for Singhs. Training equipment will be provided. Where: Becket House 1 Lambeth Palace Road London SE1 7EU Nearest tube: Waterloo (7 mins walking) We are looking forward to seeing you. Map link - http://goo.gl/maps/lBoR
  17. What does Elusive Fighting look like? Click here: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=282012048612199&set=vb.432861230092196&type=2&theater Command of Guru Gobind Singh: “Daily, with complete love and concentration, train with (meditate on) your weapons” Confused...? When you hear stories of the old Khalsa being amazing warriors when comparing to the Khalsa you see today...? Are you ready to take the first step and develop Teeth and Claws which makes a Lion/Lioness true to their form? Develop the skills and confidence to defend yourself, your family and your Panth... For those NOT already learning a fighting art (our aim is not to poach or compete with others), if you have the following characteristics, you are invited to learn from the School of Elusive Fighting: Humility Politeness and respect (towards all people, all faiths and all jathebandiyan/sampryada) Dedication Passion Open Mindedness Courage Hard Work Ethic Discipline DISCRETION We teach armed and unarmed fighting based on principles derived from rare traditional fighting systems of South East Asia (predominantly, but not only, Filipino and Chinese). The Sword, Stick and Knife are the basic weapons students learn (we move on to many variations of these i.e. the short staff and fighting axe). We also teach use of the Kara based on elusive fighting. The principles to use each or a combination of the above are one and the same, in essence, the art is very simple, the devil lies in the detail. Footwork, evasion, positioning, fast take downs, nerve/muscle/bone manipulation, multiple opponent and weapons strategies, and internal power generation are the core principles of the art. Street psychology, awareness and the practice of street scenario applications is an integral part of the learning. You will also learn old school traditional fighting exercises to develop fighting energy, fighting flexibility and fighting movement. We specialise in escapes from grabs and hold ups, so this art is highly suitable for females. The art does not rely on the training of strength and speed, but more so, on body mechanics and timing. The classes are kept small and operate as family environments, so full respect for all students is assured. No type of bad behaviour (in or outside of class) is tolerated. Commitment of 1 class a week is required. This means making the class your priority, and re-arranging other social and work issues. This is not a 'MA tick box' or Hobbyist class. It is for serious students only, who wan to invest in a martial inheritance and pass it on to the next generation. Currently classes are held on Saturdays in South London, Hayes and Coventry. We are looking to set up a class in East London once we have enough interest. Central London (London Bridge) classes for Women are held on Wednesday evenings and for Men on Thursday evenings. There is no modern teaching structure i.e. belt/grading system, nor are there any competitions (this is not a sport). Classes are taught using old school methods, very relaxed yet focused atmosphere, and learning is organic (natural). Progress is purely dependant on the students practice. The Teachers aim is not to keep paying students for 20 years, but to teach as quick as the student is willing to learn (with quality). We are not affiliated to any cults, MA school/society, controversial personality or jathebandi. If you are DEADLY SERIOUS and interested in learning, then kindly let us know a little about yourself, your previous martial arts experience and why you would like to learn from us. Drop us an email on: elusivefighting@gmail.com. Please do not contact us ‘out of interest’. We are only interested in speaking to those who are ‘ready’ to commit and learn. Dhanvaad Daas H Singh Click here for INSPIRATION: http://www.facebook.com/ElusiveFighter This is the battle of life, the Dharam Yudh for which we should always be prepared. Only those who succeed in their own battle (life), can fight other battles of Dharma, physically (external) and mentally (internal) and attain temporal and spiritual glory. Only such a soul has the right to wear and handle the sword of Guru Gobind Singh, and become his Holy Soldier, the Khalsa. None else, none else.” ~ Guru Gobind Singh ~
  18. Martial Arts - Combat - Self Defence Classes: Classes are held on Saturdays in South London, Hayes and Coventry. Central London (London Bridge) classes are held on Wednesday and Thursday evenings (separate for Men and Women). The Guru has ordained that his Khalsa learns the art of fighting. Singhs today have lost their fearsome reputation as 'Men of Action'. Are you ready to step up and develop Teeth and Claws which makes a Lion/Lioness true to their form? Develop the skills and confidence to defend yourself, your family and your Panth... For those NOT already learning a fighting art (our aim is not to poach or compete with others), if you have the following characteristics, you are invited to learn from the School of Elusive Fighting: Humility Politeness and respect (towards people, all faiths and all jathebandiyan/sampryada) Dedication Passion Open Mindedness Courage Hard Work Ethic Discipline DISCRETION We teach armed and unarmed fighting based on principles derived from various traditional/family fighting systems of South East Asia (predominantly, but not only, Filipino and Chinese). The Sword, Stick/Salotar, Knife are the basic weapons students learn (we move on many variations of these i.e. the fighting tabbar/axe). We also teach use of the Kara based on the same principles. The principles to use each or a combination of the above are one and the same, in essence, the art is very simple, the devil lies in the detail. Footwork, evasion, positioning, fast take downs, multiple opponent strategy and internal power generation are the core principles of the art. Street psychology and awareness and the practice of street scenario applications is also an important aspect. You will also learn old school traditional fighting exercises to develop fighting energy, fighting flexibility and fighting movement. We specialise in escapes from grabs and hold ups, so this art is highly suitable for bibiyan/females. The art does not rely on the training of strength and speed, but more so, body mechanics and timing. The classes are kept small and operate as family environments, so full respect for all students is assured. No type of bad behaviour is tolerated. If you are DEADLY SERIOUS and interested in learning, then drop us an email on elusivefighting@gmail.com please do not post any questions here. Please do not contact us ‘out of interest’. We are only interested in speaking to those who are ‘ready’ to commit and learn. Commitment of 1 class a week is required. This means making the class your priority, and re-arranging other social and work issues. This is not a 'MA tick box' or Hobbyist class. It is for serious students only, who wan to invest in a martial inheritance and pass it on to the next generation. Classes are held on Saturdays in South London, Hayes and Coventry. Central London (London Bridge) classes are held on Wednesday and Thursday evenings (separate for Men and Women). There is no modern teaching structure i.e. belt/grading system, nor are there any competitions (this is not a sport). Classes are taught using old school methods, very relaxed yet focused atmosphere, and learning is organic (natural). Progress is purely dependant on the students practice. The Teachers aim is not to keep paying students for 20 years, but to teach as quick as the student learns (with quality). We are not affiliated to any cults, MA school/society, controversial personalities/charities or jathebandi. Contact elusivefighting@gmail.com in the 1st instance. Dhanvaad. This is the battle of life, the Dharam Yudh for which we should always be prepared. Only those who succeed in their own battle (life), can fight other battles of Dharma, physically (external) and mentally (internal) and attain temporal and spiritual glory. Only such a soul has the right to wear and handle the sword of Guru Gobind Singh, and become his Holy Soldier, the Khalsa. None else, none else.” ~ Guru Gobind Singh ~
  19. The Guru has ordained that his Khalsa learns the art of fighting. Singhs today have lost their fearsome reputation as 'Men of Action'. Are you ready to step up and develop Teeth and Claws which makes a Lion/Lioness true to their form? Develop the skills and confidence to defend yourself, your family and your Panth... For those NOT already learning a fighting art (our aim is not to poach or compete with others), if you have the following characteristics, you are invited to learn from the School of Elusive Fighting: Humility Politeness and respect (towards people, all faiths and all jathebandiyan/sampryada) Dedication Passion Open Mindedness Courage Hard Work Ethic Discipline DISCRETION We teach armed and unarmed fighting based on principles derived from various traditional/family fighting systems of South East Asia (predominantly, but not only, Filipino and Chinese). The Sword, Stick/Salotar, Knife are the basic weapons students learn (we move on many variations of these i.e. the fighting tabbar/axe). We also teach use of the Kara based on the same principles. The principles to use each or a combination of the above are one and the same, in essence, the art is very simple, the devil lies in the detail. Footwork, evasion, positioning, fast take downs, multiple opponent strategy and internal power generation are the core principles of the art. Street psychology and awareness and the practice of street scenario applications is also an important aspect. You will also learn old school traditional fighting exercises to develop fighting energy, fighting flexibility and fighting movement. We specialise in escapes from grabs and hold ups, so this art is highly suitable for bibiyan/females. The art does not rely on the training of strength and speed, but more so, body mechanics and timing. The classes are kept small and operate as family environments, so full respect for all students is assured. No type of bad behaviour is tolerated. If you are DEADLY SERIOUS and interested in learning, then drop us an email on elusivefighting@gmail.com please do not post any questions here. Please do not contact us ‘out of interest’. We are only interested in speaking to those who are ‘ready’ to commit and learn. Commitment of 1 class a week is required. This means making the class your priority, and re-arranging other social and work issues. This is not a 'MA tick box' or Hobbyist class. It is for serious students only, who wan to invest in a martial inheritance and pass it on to the next generation. Classes are held on Saturdays in South London, Hayes and Coventry. Central London (London Bridge) classes are held on Wednesday and Thursday evenings (separate for Men and Women). There is no modern teaching structure i.e. belt/grading system, nor are there any competitions (this is not a sport). Classes are taught using old school methods, very relaxed yet focused atmosphere, and learning is organic (natural). Progress is purely dependant on the students practice. The Teachers aim is not to keep paying students for 20 years, but to teach as quick as the student learns (with quality). We are not affiliated to any cults, MA school/society, controversial personalities/charities or jathebandi. Contact elusivefighting@gmail.com in the 1st instance. Dhanvaad. This is the battle of life, the Dharam Yudh for which we should always be prepared. Only those who succeed in their own battle (life), can fight other battles of Dharma, physically (external) and mentally (internal) and attain temporal and spiritual glory. Only such a soul has the right to wear and handle the sword of Guru Gobind Singh, and become his Holy Soldier, the Khalsa. None else, none else.” ~ Guru Gobind Singh ~
  20. Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharajs command to all Singhs in his hukumnama, to give audience only with Panj Shastar on their person (one may say, at the least). “Hathiaar panje banhe darsan aavana” Malcolm refers to the tradition of Panj Shastar in 'Sketch of the Sikhs (1812)'. He says that during the Amrit Sanchaar, the Abilekee is given "five weapons, a sword, a firelock, a bow and arrow, and a pike-were presented to the initiate” Teer/Kamaan Barsha Shamshir Tupac What one understands from these and the historical mentions of Panj Shastar is that a ‘SINGH’ should always keep the sangat of shastar i.e. remain tyaar bar tyaar. As per any historical or modern army, a soldier is not obsessed with what he likes, but rather keeps a well rounded arsenal. The observation by Malcolm and the many descriptions of the Khalsa Yudh ithihaas and paintings reflect the same. The Khalsa is armed for long range engagement, medium range and short range (hand to hand). To just have lots of short range weapons makes no sense, as some would have you believe. One has a short dagger (Kataari, Kard, Chhoor etc). One has a sword (Shamshir, Tegha, Sirohi etc). One has medium engagement weapons i.e. Chakkar and Teer/Kamaan and very importantly long range (Tupak). The military preparation of the Khalsa was like any other soldier past or present, well rounded and prepared for all forms of engagement. The weapons do not have to be an exact type or name. The important thing is that you have the ability to fight at all levels and are armed as such. The Guru encouraged exploration in weaponry (especially foreign), you should not get obsessed with collecting Indo-Persian antiques, but rather use your valuable time and budget to learn the art of fighting and learn about modern blade/weapon culture world wide. Learn to find and get high quality weapons made which you use to practice with, which you test and don’t worry about being damaged. Singhs of old, their highest value possession used to be their shastar, they would save for months or even longer, to get a custom made shastar to suit their need and feel. Today we look for the cheapest offers/deals. Would rather spend the money on a 60” TV or a Sports Car. The above should hopefully give you a clue as to how a Singh should prepare himself. A few Krav Maga or MMA classes is far from meeting your Guru’s martial tick box. Ensure you make it your sport/hobby/passion, to learn how to engage at ‘all’ levels. Be well rounded in your martial ability. ਇਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਅਨੰਦ ਦੁਧਰਖ ਭਟ ਜਦਿਨ ਸ਼ਸਤ੍ਰ ਗਹਮਿੱਕ ਹੈ ॥ ਬਿਨ ਇਕ ਧੀਰਜ ਸੁਨਿ ਰੇ ਨ੍ਰਿਪਤ ਸੁ ਅਉਰ ਨ ਦੂਸਰਿ ਟਿੱਕ ਹੈ
  21. This is a great idea Chatanga. Well done. It is the small things like this that will make the difference, and will start the 'slow' process of turning our Gurdwarai into centres of learnign again. Pelase drop me an email in elusivefighting@gmail.com I will be more than happy to set this up at my local Gurdwarai. Dhanvaad Khalsa Jeeo.
  22. THE MYTH OF MILITARY HAND-TO-HAND COMBAT SYSTEMS By Wim For the longest time, you couldn’t open a martial arts magazine without seeing an ad for military hand-to-hand combat systems. SEALS, SAS, Special Forces, you name it, somebody will teach you their secrets if you only pay $29.99 for their video… That was a few decades ago. Today, you still see these ads, though the names and faces of the instructors have changed. What’s more, you see these kinds of products advertised all over the internet and especially on Youtube. I think it’s safe to say they have only become more popular over time. Before I go on, let’s get something straight: I’m not talking about high-level consulting and training firms that require security clearance to train with. I’m talking about the commercially available, widely publicized books and videos you see advertised all over the place. I have nothing against instructors using the name of a military unit to sell either their own hand-to-hand combat system or one that is used effectively by that unit. Not at all. For the most part, I see this as a marketing thing and each instructor/author has to make decisions on that front. Often they’re made for them by their publisher, so I’m not going to throw stones on that front because I totally get it. To each his own, along with live and let live. I’m not saying the instructors who make these videos or books are frauds and what they teach is <banned word filter activated>. That is absolutely not what this article is about. I repeat: I’m not claiming any such thing. I’m not saying military hand-to-hand combat systems don’t work for civilian self-defense. Please read this again: it’s not about the effectiveness of these systems. That is beyond question; they absolutely do work. I’m not saying these systems have no value for self-defense. There are most certainly ways to use the content of those curricula for civilian self-defense situations; I’m not denying that. I have nothing against people who practice these systems for civilian self-defense. The issue isn’t how much fun you have during training or how much you like the system. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with liking military hand-to-hand combat systems. I like them too. These are the things I’m not saying. As to what I am saying: I believe there is a myth of military hand-to-hand combat systems in today’s self-defense and martial arts world. This myth revolves around certain assumptions and it’s those I’d like to talk about. The myth of origins To the average citizen, the military is an impressive and sometimes even frightening organization. Soldiers are looked upon as awe-inspiring or frightening, especially combat hardened vets. Of all soldiers, the special branches are the scariest ones. Special Forces, Navy Seals, SAS, etc. are considered the best of the best. So if you want to sell a combat system, it sounds so much better to claim it comes from such an elite unit than from the program taught to basic grunts. So commercially speaking, claiming your system is taught to these units or comes form them makes perfect sense. The issue I see is this: To the best of my knowledge, special units like those mentioned above never divulge operational procedures. These are typically classified information because otherwise every mission would be easily compromised by the enemy. So why on earth would they allow somebody to teach the entire curriculum of their hand-to-hand combat system to the public at large? Sure, when asked they might answer certain questions about certain topics but giving you an entire, detailed handbook on how they perform combatives during missions? I doubt it. Nor can they divulge details of their missions as these are also classified. If I’m not mistaking, the penalties of spreading such information are pretty high. So why would they let civilians and (in this age of information being readily available worldwide the second it hits the internet) therefor also their enemies, know all the details of how they fight? It doesn’t make sense to me. The only thing I do see making sense is teaching declassified systems. Systems that were used once upon a time by these units but are no longer current practice. Or they are the systems somebody taught to such units as a guest instructor, which they then modified to suit their operational needs. In either case, what is commercially available is not by default exactly what those units are doing now. I could be wrong about this, I readily admit that. But when talking to operators and friends of mine in the military, they suggest I’m not. Regardless, it’s one piece of the puzzle. As an aside, I find it hilarious that so many practitioners of modern combatives systems are extremely critical of traditional martial arts and their emphasis on lineage. A typical criticism from them is that just because your late great-grandmaster was a bad-<banned word filter activated> fighter, doesn’t mean you are. I find it funny that those very same people then feel the need to claim special forces units as their own lineage, as if that increases their skills in any way. But I digress… Military hand-to-hand combat systems in action The myth of superior techniques There is no doubt that members of military special units kick <banned word filter activated> and take names. No doubt at all because they have proven just that for hundreds of years. The underlying attraction of the hand-to-hand systems they practice is rooted in that fact. But does that mean they are the best hand-to-hand fighters in the world? No, it doesn’t. They simply don’t spend enough time training hand-to-hand combat. If you look at the total amount of training hours for instance the Marine Corps Martial Arts Program requires to reach their black belt level, you end up with about 150 hours. To put that in perspective (and I know I’m oversimplifying, no need to get upset over it.): 150 hours means you train two hours a day for a couple months. Hardly enough time to qualify as the best at anything… Elite units no doubt spend more hours training hand-to hand combat but still not as much as you’d think is necessary to make you a world-class specialist on this subject. If you have trouble accepting this, here’s another perspective: A while ago, I asked a bunch of former and active military personnel how many hours they trained hand-to-hand combat during their service. In all fairness, some of the feedback I got was about how soldiers train on their own in both combatives as well as shooting. But actual scheduled training time? Without exception, the total number of hours was extremely low. For some, there was only a few hours of annual training. Others had weekly training but only a couple hours. For pretty much all of them, the training of other skills took up way, way more time. Here are some quotes from three of them (names withheld on request): Ok, back to our hand to hand training. How do I say this? Non-existent? It was generally looked down upon in the office for Officers to participate in things like combatives. In other words: even in this specialized part of basic training was next to no room for hand-to-hand combat. I guess it was two or three hours out of three months with little sleep. And finally, a quote from perhaps one of the deadliest soldiers I know. Somebody who has “converted numerous enemy combatants from horizontal to vertical” as a friend of mine would say. Somebody who will remain anonymous for obvious reasons: In an average 60-80 hour work week? Combatives get 2 hours per week. Flat. Read that again… Two hours per week. Two. Hours. Per week. The image of an elite soldier spending all his time doing hardcore combatives is just wrong, no matter how much the ads want to make you believe it. Like I said above, other training and duties take up most of the time. Here’s what the rest of my friend’s schedule looks like: About 30m per day on weapons maintenance, manipulation and dry fire; with 1-2 hours per week live fire (mostly done at my own expense…) PT is about 2 hours per day, split into 1 hour sessions, 3 on 1 off 2 on one off. Navigation gets about 4 hours per week. Special movement skills (skiing/arctic traverse, parachuting, helo assaults, rappeling or mountain) get about 20 per week. Medical interventions get 2-6 hours per week. Common tasks (driver/convoy training, VHF coms, professional development/administrative) 2-6 hours per week. Specialty job skills (for me, this would be signals intercept and analysis stuff or call for fire/precision rifle deployment) get 10-20 hours. The rest is eaten up in various formalities, mass updates to policies/regulations/operating procedures, and the endless cycle of planning and risk management work to be able to pull off any of the above. Everything must be done by the book… I repeat: my friend is one of the deadliest soldiers I know (and I’ve met a lot…) yet he spends no more than two hours a week on combatives. So why on earth would anyone consider him a hand-to-hand-combat specialist? He doesn’t specialize in hand-to-hand combat. He specializes in being an insanely effective and deadly professional soldier. Hand-to-hand combat systems are only a very small part of that job description. Mind you, I’d bet on him against the vast majority of street thugs, criminals and brawlers out there. But primarily because of his mind-set, experience and professionalism. Not because the combatives techniques he learned in the military are superior to all other systems. I feel it is only logical to conclude that the military doesn’t specialize in delivering hand-to-hand combat specialists. Following that, I believe it is also logical to assume they are not the best source for your civilian self-defense needs, even if there were such a thing as “best”. The myth of combat proven One of the recurring marketing arguments for these books and videos is that they are “combat proven” and therefor supremely effective. The reasoning is that if these techniques are used in gruesome missions during a war, then they must be the best thing since sliced bread for self-defense. There are three problems with this claim: context is still king, teamwork and tool selection. First up, context. I’ve harped on and on about this here already so I’m not going to dig too deep on this aspect. The crux of the matter is this: just because elite soldiers use certain techniques during their missions, that doesn’t mean you should use them for civilian self-defense. The context in which these techniques are applicable are completely different from your daily life: military operations have rules of engagement and operational parameters that vary from one mission to the next. A civilian self-defense situation however has to be resolved following the law. Civilian law is generally pretty clear in that you need specific components to be present before you can use lethal force or any force at all for that matter. The goal is also completely different. A soldier has to complete his mission, whatever the objectives may be. Generally speaking, this means running away isn’t an option. But as a civilian, this is usually the best option for you as far as the law is concerned: if you have a means to escape, you should use it. Look up “preclusion” and consider how it applies to you but not to a Navy Seal who has to take out a target. If your mission as a civilian (escape and be safe) is not the same as that Seal (take out the target), then why would you use the exact same tools? It doesn’t make sense. Second is teamwork. A while ago another friend of mine (former special forces and extremely experienced soldier) made a bunch of people arguing about self-defense go quiet. The point he made illustrates the fundamental difference between civilian and soldiers: soldiers don’t fight alone. I was going to write “never fight alone” but that’s not 100% accurate, even though it’s probably pretty damn close. Unlike you as a civilian, soldiers do not go out by their lonesome selves to kill enemies; they go as a team. This means their entire mindset is completely different from a civilian like you or me who has to defend himself with a force of only one. Their techniques and tactics reflect that. E.g.: if one soldier engages in hand-to-hand combat, his teammate comes over and shoots the enemy dead, stabs him with a knife, breaks his neck, knocks him out, etc. depending on the mission objectives. In a civilian context, this kind of training is not relevant unless you are living a pretty dangerous lifestyle and have your crew with you 24/7… Finally there’s tool selection. Soldiers do not use hand-to-hand combat techniques unless they absolutely have to. If they do; it usually means they either fucked up or something went wrong. Some examples: They run out of ammo. They are surprised by an enemy at close quarters. Their weapon malfunctions and there is no time deploy a secondary weapon. In all of the above scenarios, something happened that prevented them from using their tool of choice: a high-performance firearm. That’s their primary weapon for the simple reason that it outperforms hand-to-hand combat techniques in all possible ways except for non-lethal objectives (and even then…) But non-lethal results are much less a concern for them (see rules of engagement) than they are for you as a civilian. So why would they choose a tool (hand-to-hand- combat techniques) that offers inferior performance and reliability over another (firearms) that is readily available to them? You might argue that they use hand-to-hand techniques for other goals and you’d be right. But when exactly does a civilian need for instance sentry removal for self-defense? The myth of authenticity When you read those book and video advertisements, the ad copy suggest you get the authentic combat system as taught to that particular elite unit. If you think about it in light of what I wrote here above, that should strike you as strange. Why would a civilian learn techniques that were never meant to be used outside of a military context? To illustrate this context, take a look a this video featuring W.E. Fairbairn, who is one of the fathers of modern combatives. In the beginning of the video, the context and goals of these techniques are explained clearly: It’s simply a matter of killed or be killed. The student is taught the gentle art of murder. The technique of killing or crippling his opponent with his two hands, at close quarters. As a civilian, you are only allowed to use lethal force under very specific circumstances, as I explained above. If your first instinct in a self-defense situation is to cripple or kill your aggressor, get ready to spend time in jail. That said: is lethal force sometimes necessary? Yes, of course. Would military hand-to-hand combat systems be useful then? Yes they would, they work real well for that. So why not use them? Because the vast majority of self-defense situations do not require lethal force. If you get in a shoving contest with some <banned word filter activated> you bumped into, you can’t just break his neck. If some <banned word filter activated> cuts you off in traffic over a perceived sleight and slaps you in the face, you can’t crush his trachea. Lethal force is not justified in those cases, so using it would be murder. Which is exactly what those combatives techniques are for, remember? Many (but not all) instructors do realize this and water down what they teach. Some do so because they understand the difference between civilian and military contexts. Others do so because they don’t want to get sued by the relatives of somebody who gets killed by his student. So they teach “SAS-light” combatives instead of the original system. The most effective techniques are taken out or are changed to make them less lethal,adapting them to civilian needs. Then the curriculum is spread out over time to make sure you come back for more. But are you still learning an authentic military combatives system? How would you know as that’s classified information? Another aspect of this is how the military sometimes uses outside experts for its training needs. These experts have certain skills the military finds interesting and valuable so they get invited to teach those special units. So in a literal sense, that expert can then claim his system is used by that elite unit. And he’d be right in claiming so. The issue with that is that he’s rarely the only one who gets invited. Other experts get invited too and can make the same claim, so which system is that elite unit using them during its missions? Probably a blend of all the pieces they liked and tested, along with modifications they figured out themselves. But once again, that specific information is usually classified so who knows? Conclusion Let me repeat that I have absolutely nothing against military hand-to-hand combat systems. They are great and work impressively well for their intended goal. It just strikes me as wrong to think these systems can be transposed from a war zone into daily civilian life without problems. Combative techniques and systems are tools. Tools that need to be used appropriately, which is exactly what elite soldiers do: they prepare their missions extensively and select the tools they need for the job. You could do worse than follow their lead and ask yourself these two questions another highly trained professional friend of mine would suggest you ponder: 1) What is your mission? My answer: to come home safe and sound to my family every day. 2) Which tools do you need for your mission? My answer: a mix of awareness, avoidance, evasion, de-escalation, non-lethal techniques and a small fraction of lethal ones. You need to formulate your own answers but once you do, my friend would say: Do not abandon the mission. To which I’d add: Do not abandon the mission, even if you have the coolest tools to do so. Military combatives systems are cool tools. They absolutely work to take out an attacker. But if you want to use them for self-defense, you need to adapt them to the civilian context so they are in accordance with civilian law and not military law. These two are not the same and the differences are just as important as the similarities. That’s the whole point I tried to make in this article. An excellent illustration of this is an older movie called The Siege. It shows how the clash between civilian law enforcement and the military way can go terribly wrong. It’s also eerily prophetic if you know this movie came out years before 9/11.
  23. Thoughts on Weapons: Pepper Spray, Kubotans, Knife Fighting and Improvised Weapons by Kelly McCann, Black Belt contributing editor Photo by Thomas Sanders – Yesterday Kelly McCann on improvised weapons: An improvised weapon is a mentality, not a tool. In other words, if you have the improvisational mentality, it doesn’t matter what’s at hand. You can use a pen to stab. You can fold a credit card and use it to cut a guy’s face. You can grab a soda can and rip it in half — and you’ll have two knives. Even a videocassette, slung into a guy’s throat, can be more effective, and quicker, than an empty-hand technique. Kelly McCann on teaching that mentality: You show your students how it’s done by using a lot of examples, after which you teach the principles: how to create leverage, how to inflict pain, how to cut, how to see the “weapon attributes” in ordinary things. Kelly McCann on everyday carry: Make sure you meet all your state’s legal requirements before getting or carrying a weapon. OC gas, or pepper spray, is great to carry because it’s a distance weapon. You can use it early in an altercation, before you even make contact with the assailant, and not a lot of technique is required. Kelly McCann on the expandable baton: When it’s legal, an expandable baton is also great because it gives you distance. It’s basically a stick, and everybody can use a stick with some degree of success. Kelly McCann on the kubotan: The pocket stick — also known as the kubotan oryawara — is good if you have the skills to use it, but it’s not quite as effective as the expandable baton because you have to close with your attacker. Kelly McCann on blades: Knives are certainly good — if you’ve got the guts to use one. A sharp instrument is a great weapon; trouble is, its use is generally viewed as felonious. If you ever use a knife in self-defense, you’ll probably get killed in court. The opposing attorneys will undoubtedly say that a higher standard applies because you’ve been trained and that you should have tried to … blah, blah, blah. That’s why OC gas and pocket sticks are better weapons for those who know how to use them. Kelly McCann on weapons for the home: You want layered security. You want to affect the thinking — the decision-making process and victim selection — of anyone who may be looking at breaking in. You want to make him think you’re a hard target. For the first layer, you should have good lights around your house and good locks. If someone breaks in, the second layer is a dog. For the third layer, OC gas and maybe a gun — with the caveat that you have to be properly trained in combative shooting while under duress. A gun is good only if you’ll use it and know when to use it. You also need to consider who else is in the home, who has access to the gun, and what safety measures need to be in place to protect it from theft and/or unauthorized use by a child. Kelly McCann on mindset: The thing with guns is, a person may be a good shot, but that doesn’t matter if he second-guesses himself right up to the last minute and doesn’t shoot until it’s too late. For that kind of person, OC gas is a better option. Kelly McCann on using empty-hand skills to get to your weapon: That’s the role of combatives as we teach them. Getting to your weapon may not be the only thing you do once you have control of a situation, but you do want some type of weapon in your hand — whether it’s OC gas or whatever. It just makes sense to have something that gives you an advantage. Kelly McCann on weapons vs. multiple attackers: You’re probably not going to be able to deal with three on one or two on one without help from an aerosol irritant (OC spray) or some other weapon. The fact is, when you fight one attacker, you can exert control. When you’re faced with multiple attackers and don’t have a weapon, you can’t simultaneously control them. Kelly McCann on empty hand vs. knife: You can successfully deal with it, but it requires a special mentality. A guy can come at me with a knife, and given no alternative, I may disregard the knife because I know I can be inside the weapon’s arc so fast and hurt him so quickly that he’ll be unable to use it. He might drop it or suddenly realize he needs to get away from me — in other words, decide not to use it. Those are all forms of disarming. Disarms don’t necessarily mean I have to end up with your weapon in my control. Once you take away a person’s will, the fight is over. A guy comes in and thinks he owns you, and all of a sudden he’s scared stiff. If you’re not willing to get to that level of commitment — turning predator into prey — you’d better not put your hand in that cage. And even then, there’s no guarantee you won’t end up hurt, maimed or dead.
  24. Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a Lion. He was brave and skilful Warrior, who lead and fought in battle. He was an astute and magnificent strategist. He was truly egalitarian and people of all faiths blossomed and lived peacefully with each other under his rule. He held Adi Granth in the highest esteem and always sought the Guru’s aagya before any task. He respected the puratan authority of the Akaal Takht. He was a world leading diplomat and politician. He was humble. He was compassionate. He was Kind. All Kings and world leaders of his age knew about him and were in awe of him. Many of them sent their diplomats to Punjab to establish relations. In Maha-Shaheed Nihang Baba Gurbaksh Singh Ji’s sakha in Panth Pracheen Prakash, it is stated that all the Shaheeds came to collect Baba Ji from his Legendary Shaheedi at Darbar Sahib and decided to return him as a Ruler of Punjab as a reward. Such was the esteem that Maharaj Ranjit was held in. Lastly, Maharaja Ranjit Singh was a leader that only the Sri Dasam Granth Sahib could ever produce. Earliest Portrait of Shere Punjab.
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