CuriousObserver

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Its known that Hari Singh wanted Sarbat Khalsa. So is is possible that Ranjit killed Hari Singh Nalwa to protect his power.

Very True. I cant remember if it was KPS Gill or Beant Singh that wrote in a book about using black cats to defame the Khalistan movement. We can show that quote to anyone who thinks hindus were killed.

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no my name is not simran. This all started when I researched about the rehat maryada. Guru Gobind Singh clearly states that Guru Granth Sahib is the eternal guru for sikhs. But the definition of Sikh according to the rehat maryada is; Believes in the existence of One eternal God Follows their teachings of, and accepts as their only Spiritual guides, the Guru Granth Sahib and the ten human Gurus Believes in the baptism (Amrit Sanchar), as promoted by the tenth Guru Does not owe allegiance to any other religion My interpretation from what Guru Gobind Singh said would be anyone who follows the Guru Granth Sahib is a Sikh. And since Guru Gobind Singh never wrote in the Guru Granth Sahib there is nothing about the khalsa. Shouldn't the rehat maryada be changed then?

Can you please give the page number of these in the sarbloh granth. And also does the Guru Granth Sahib say anything about the 5k's?

I know how to read Punjabi. I dont want to read the whole book when I only need answer to 1 question. With the English version I would be able to search Khalsa and find my answers easily.

I need a english translated version. I cant find one.

I was reading a book called the select sayings of Guru Gobind Singh. It is derived from both the Dasam and Sarbloh granth. Guru Gobind Singh talks about the khalsa many times and never mentioned any physical symbols. This leads me to question has Guru Gobind made any reference to physical symbols of the khalsa in his writings? I found one in the same book but it was written by some sadhu in 1711 which doesn't make sense to me. I'm not arguing that there aren't any physical symbols but only if they are supposed to be permanent?

"Gulab Singh contrived to hold himself aloof till the battle of Sobraon (1846), when he appeared as a useful mediator and the trusted advisor of SirHenry Lawrence. Two treaties were concluded. By the first the State of Lahore (i.e. West Punjab) handed over to the British, as equivalent for one crore indemnity, the hill countries between the rivers Beas and Indus; by the second the British made over to Gulab Singh for 75 lakhs all the hilly or mountainous country situated to the east of the Indus and the west of the Ravi i.e. the Vale of Kashmir)." Do you know how the got the money to buy kashmir. because i thought punjab was close to bankruptcy. did they steal? How did the get the princes addicted to opium?

To fully understand his role you need to look at history. He was chosen to lead the sikhs when Sada Kaur called sarbat khalasa in order to organize the sikhs beacuse of an impending attack. He failed the sikhs in my opinion because he didnt restore sarbat khalsa and became a king. Also he had 46 wives and concubines and hundreds of dancing girls. Sure he did great things like religious tolerance but he screwed the newer generations. after his death his family started killing each other for control. Sikhs could have easily fended of the british if they were organized. 2 of the leaders betrayed the sikhs and gave away battle plans to the british. After that battle the khalsa lost numbers and money and couildnt recover. all this because the leaders wanted to be kings. this all started with ranjit singh. Hari singh nalwa didnt want monarchy.

I recently came across a video on youtube about Guru Gobind Singh's shabad Mittar Pyare Nu. I corrected a person about the the historical context of the shabad. This isn't anything serious. The funny thing is the person I responded to has multiple accounts and uses to to thumbs up her comments. She/He was marked all my comments down and they can no longer be seen. Thy resorted to saying "sikhi is not religiosity, you indians do not know much". Please help me out and thumbs up my comments so they can be seen.

This is even more emotional.

Who wrote this detailed history? Is it a mixture from the zafarnama and muhgal history? or is it written by the other two survivors of the battle, Bhai Daya and Dharam Singh? I have seen this detailed story many times on many different sites.

It doen't really matter. What matters is how Guru Hargobind changed the Sikh ideals and identity. In those times after Guru Hargobind armed the sikh they lived like an almost seperate unit from the normal people. Guru Hrgobind was very daring. Dont forget about Bidhi Chand and the horses.