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  1. Kuchh bhi ! Ganga coming down to earth is found in ancient hindu texts. Its not a modern story. The sage Bhagirath brought it down, though today its a cesspool , though GoI pumping thousands of crores to clean it up, but its still dirty with dead bodies , but thats another topic. Also "river" is a feminine noun in hindi / sanskrit. River is also known as "sarita" , another hindu female name . So ganga is aptly feminine , although don't know why sikhs appropriated it for men. Same goes for sobha/shobha , which is again a feminine hindu name but sikhs are using it for men
  2. funny how hindus use ganga as name for females, while historically sikhs used it for males.
  3. Ultimately every name is name of god, Dharmic names are ok, but what about abrahamic names of god in SGGS ? like raheem, kareem , rehman, khuda, parvardigaar ? why can't we have names like 'raheem singh', 'kareem singh' , 'rehman singh' and so on ? We had names like ram singh, gopal singh, manmohan singh, all names from hindu background. I always feel we're ok with accpting hindus but not muslims ..
  4. SO ?? Should we be proud of that attitude ? Its because of this attitude that we're in this state now. I am happy with Ranjit singh's rule, he was a big asset to sikh community, I just have a problem with this neo-sikh attitude that actively converting people is wrong . As long as you're not using sword or deception, everything is fair. Target kids, not adults. Adults won't listen.
  5. which attack in 52 and 55 ?
  6. Does waheguru mind the joke sometime ? I don't think so .
  7. so why did you call me out as anti-sikh behnji ? I am assuming this pic was of somewhere in britain . The same evil bastards who I hold squarely responsible for 1947 sikh massacre and also 1984 sikh massacre . Britishers are responsible for 47 because they couldn't care less for how the partition process will happen , and 84 because they provide intelligence input to GoI and also because they denied us our right and broke our political arm by doing ghaddari with us and neglecting us while distributing power in 47 , despite knowing well that sikhs always had their back in world wars, and for which perhaps India hated us later. I am always trying to wake our people up . And realize our true identity , that of a servant-saint-soldier for humanity
  8. On the issue of names I was just wondering we should bring old sikh names (18th century) back . 18th century was most harsh century in history of sikhs. Back then , we had names like "Bijla singh" , "khadak singh", "NauNihal singh" , "Nihal singh" , "Mehtaap singh" , "Gurbaksh singh" , and so on. All sound very heavy and regal.
  9. will give you small heart-wrenching example of a few days back: Was travelling outside city for official reason. When walking up the stairs of railway station, encountered a group of young boys begging "Kaka paay padtoe" (Uncle, I beg at your feet) . How my heart was non-attentive at the moment that I walked by without giving them some food I still regret it . These are the people who're most vulnerable and helpless and deserve our charity , not feeding the already well feed like this :
  10. ehde vich anti sikh ki keh ditta main ? If you saw my posts here (apart from gay-related ones which I won't be posting anymore) , you would find I am always trying to give innovative solutions to sikhs as I am concerned abt the panth . Keep feeding people for free (not talking abt langar) , while other religions are advancing in our homeland. We as a community can barely think beyond daily religious routine , nagar kirtans, samagams and the likes. But its not enough for us . We have not started enough orphanages for adopting and bringing orphans to sikhi . Look at the christians. Most crappiest religion ever spreading like locust. After so much of maar, in 47 , 84 and still now, we're not opening our heads to form some kind of think-tank (hindus have RSS btw !) Muslims have their own technique of reproduction . Sikhs have neither. Bholi kaum ha assi "Raaj bina nai dharam chale hai"
  11. The guy in this video just looks like another thick <banned word filter activated> . Can't take his crrap seriously man. Also lets stop putting everything on bahmans and maulvis. Its a convenient excuse we use to hide misdoings of our own people. If our own didn't sell out like this for power and money, we wouldn't be having this problems.
  12. Such bullsht excuses ! We will bend over backward to any extent just to appear "cool" , when infact no one gives 2 crrap to no matter how much you handle out freebies in the name of "langar" and "sewa" . Langar just meant roti daal sabzi, simple and healthy , not the processed food crrap we see in gurdwara nowadays. Not the "lets hand out coke and bagels" we see in chowks of western cities. You think the gorey give 2 crrap that you're giving free handouts to them ? they are prolly thinking you're doing nothing special as you prolly own them atleast that much for living in their country. Wherever the christian and muslims went, they spread their culture , eating habit, dressing habit , and religion. We lose ours wherever we go. Sometimes I wonder god revealing sikhi to a group (punjabi) that is so grossly opposite to sikhi just goes on to prove god is just trolling humans lol seriously
  13. Veere, wat if i told u indian emagazine "gaylaxy"s founder sukhdeep singh is gay. I could continue to debate eternally on this topic, but now i m feeling like i don't want to. This is the last time i m talking on this topic. I will not talk abt gay topic frm now. It just dawned on me that we're having a big crisis situation in kaum, looking at all these Xi'an missionaries in Punjab makes my stomach churn. Then on second front we hv the muslims nd then the hindhtva far right I don't want us to be entangled in useless bs but address core concerns in a concrete way. Lets wake up
  14. Hes known to write similar trash in his other pieces related to Sikhism
  15. Not trying to be judgemental of monay , but definitely worth a read If any researcher wants to study identity, I recommend s/he choose Sikhs as subject. The name Sikh is derived from the Sanskrit word for disciple or learner. Guru Nanak revealed God as a formless, divine intelligence shared by all faiths and agnostics alike. In his world-view, hierarchies of caste, gender, class and religions were delusions. Guru Gobind Singh, the last of the living gurus, also described God as identity-less. "Chakkar chehun arr barrn jaat ar paat nehan jeh; roop rang arr rekh bhekh kou keh na skat keh," he wrote, meaning God, or the supreme intelligence, bears no outward features - physical form, colour, dress, symbols or lineage. Rationalists then wonder why followers of this philosophy are required to wear their faith on their sleeve if the spiritual force they believe in itself is symbol-less. Let me attempt an answer to this question. The turbaned Sikh identity is no imitation of God in the first place. Guru Nanak's God is inimitable. Secondly, identity, in a wider perspective, is never a static representation of orthodoxy. On the contrary, it evokes a sense of connection with history and ideals. The Khalsa identity, which Guru Gobind Singh in 1699 institutionalised and of which uncut hair wrapped in a turban is the most striking aspect, is a focal point for the Sikhs to navigate something that unites them in the public sphere. It's not a certificate of virtue. Definitely not. In fact, in one of his writings incorporated in Sri Guru Granth Sahib, Kabir, the great mystical weaver-poet, declared: "Kabir preet ikk sio keeay aan dubidha jaye; bhavaiy laambey kes kar, bhavaiy gharar muddaye (duality and alienation depart when you love God. It's then immaterial whether you have long hair or a shaven head: Kabir)." The turbaned Sikh identity, therefore, is not a stamp of spirituality but a corollary of a revolutionary journey from Guru Nanak to the Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh. It helps Sikhs connect with their history, more so when reading it is not so common. But the same Sikh identity remains too glaring for the world outside to accept it readily. If you wear it, you cannot hide it. And when you can't hide it, be prepared for some reaction, especially when intolerance mounts. It happened in 1984. It happened 250 years ago during Islamist invasions. If you wear it, you cannot hide it. Photo: Reuters And it still happens - from strange looks on the streets of New York or a full-blown assault by some supremacist in some part of the United States. Let's admit that this identity is not a fashion although some of us have been trying to promote it on the ramp for a couple of decades now. But the Sikh identity is rapidly declining in the heartland of the faith, Punjab. Young Sikhs in the region are finding the turban a bother. They feel smarter without it than with a six-metre of cloth wound around their heads. I am not sure there's any data, but it's widely believed this rejection of the religious headgear gained momentum in the early 1990s. Many factors contributed to it: alleged police excesses during the Punjab unrest, India's sudden economic boom and growing urge among the youth to merge with the rest of the world, mainly under diasporic influence. Earlier, the phenomenon was pronounced largely among college-going Sikh students. They would forego of their "Sikh pride" in order to be more modern. But now, the young breed doesn't wait that long. Aided by their parents, many children from the community, especially in rural Punjab, appear to be getting haircuts before 10-12. Around 2,40,000 results show up when you Google "cut Surd". That's how potential clean-shaven Sikh grooms are being advertised on matrimonial sites, with additional qualifiers like "handsome" and "smart". It seems an identifiable Sikh disappears in Punjab every day. But far-off, in Europe and North America, the turban is undergoing a stunning revival. Diasporic Sikhs, many of whom can be credited or blamed for setting the "cut-Surd" trend back home, are re-embracing their identity rapidly. Perhaps, they have realised the futility of shedding it to play to the white man's gallery. They appear to have understood cultural cross-dressing is no gateway to raising their racial profile. People of colour, the Chinese, Mongols, Vietnamese and so forth, earned a place in the western world not by painting themselves white or by undergoing plastic surgery. Sikhs also worked hard as much as others did, but many of them compromised their turbans to please their foreign hosts. Not anymore. They now know they can stand out boldly, as a powerful lobby, in multinational, multicultural milieus with - and not without - their visible tradition. But what about Punjab and India, the cradle of the religion? "cut-Surd" advertisements reflect high levels of acceptance at home of identity-less Sikhs. It's a deep cut on the faith's umbilical cord. And that's not cool, man. http://www.dailyo.in/variety/sikhism-turban-guru-nanak-intolerance-indian-diaspora-punjab-cut-surd/story/1/18926.html
  16. yet heterosexuals do it all the time. And marriage gives full license for couples to engage in unreproductive sex. Why is this hypocrisy in kaum , and on this forum that for a boy to have a girlfriend is ok but for a boy to have bf is not ok ?!! Another question : Adultery (Paraye-istri/purakh da sang karna) is a sin in sikhi. But what if you're not married in the first place. How is it adultery if he's not married in the first place and cannot marry (a man) even if he wanted to ? maybe god has some diff rules of judging for guys like me LOL
  17. I actually interpreted it as God saying "Don't worry fella. I will save you when the right time comes just as I saved prahlaad and bhagats" .
  18. People here are in so much of denial . I know of atleast 4 "sardars" who're gay and I am not even a very social person. We just have the same proportion of them as any other community. Better to live in bitter reality than sweet falsehood. The image that all sikh men are absolutely macho is a false one that has ironically been to our detriment .We like to live in a la la land and then we land ourselves in a mess . Sometimes even our enemies turn the buttons accordinly because they know we like praises even if shallow. I will be very honest , I had a crush on one of my sardar professors. Ironically he was a saabat soorat sikh who kept open beard and was married and is now a father of a son. I was so madly in crush with him, I even decided to open up to my infatuation for him on last day when I gave him a chocolate. But now I think, fortunately it was better I didn't open out to him, though I did tell him few years later that I am what I am . He sympathized. I only fell for him because of his looks and attitude. Don't get me wrong. Most sardars maybe hairy , but some of them are handsome too. And I also know of hindu women marrying sardars. I attended wedding of a marathi woman marrying a sabat soorat sikh. So it goes both ways , though I think sikh girls marrying outside maybe more common. TBH, no one likes skinny or clean shaven men. "Stubble" is the key word. Broad shoulders, broad well built back , musculature is what attracts all people to men. If there was some propaganda as you guys would like us to believe, then none of us would be attracted to masculine men. Being overtly hair is not same as being manly BTW. No disrespect intended to sardar jis . I myself am one btw.
  19. While its tempting to lash out at her as irresponsible nd shallow, or ridicule her as i m seeing in the posts above, i can somehow also relate to wat she's going through Lets face it, most of our saabat surat guys are hairy. Even those who tend to trim their beards to be more visually appealing, are still lagging behind monay hindu/muslim boys, who on the "visually appealing" scale tend to trump sikh guys. And since op is in full joban of her youth, it is but natural that she will fall for the handsome dude rather than some baaba looking material for marriage I myself rarely feel attracted to sardar men. Its always the monay groomed guys that ace when it comes to sexuality nd romanticism. I m not saying sardars aren't good looking. They can be, but tbh the way current definition of looks is defined in bollywood nd India in general, our men tend to get the shorter end of the stick. One can argue we should avoid moh maya because ultimately every handsome dude will get ugly with age. Its guaranteed but i doubt op can avoid maya so easily This posts is not an anecdote i feel. It raises several questions we as community need to address. This is my take on this post. Best of luck op
  20. I knew it would come one day or the other, but I had little option other than putting my faith in the lord and let the life take its course as the lord directs it. Finally my parents have started upping the pressure on me to get married. I had told them 2 yrs back I am not interested in girls and I don't feel for them the way other guys do . And instead I have those same romantic / sexual feelings for young men instead. But my parents ignored me and went in denial. They suggested I see a doctor for some "deficiency". My dad thought I had low libido. I know the doctors know abt homosexuality but will still see me as a sheep to be sheared (money) . So I rather asked my mom dad to take me to a gay-friendly popular psychiatrist who is also treating my mom for anxiety and depression. He talked to me privately and sympathized with my circumstances but said he would still suggest some tests and prescribe a few meds just to satisfy my parents, lest they take me to quacks instead. My blood - Testosterone etc were pretty much normal. The episode ended back then. Now its resurfaced . My mom dad had fight with my nephew (taaye da munda) in punjab because his wife and himself is quite rude and ungrateful for all my dad has done for them. So now marrying me is also seen by my parents as a way of "slapping" the relatives in punjab , and if don't get married, then it would be "slap" on my parents face instead and my parents become a subject of ridicule among relatives. So my mom dad are taking me to gurudwara marriage bureaus and asking every person on planet to find me a girl for rishta. Everyday they're talking of my marriage and its very stressful for me. I am obviously in a very tough state . But I know I am not alone. My satguru is always by my side . "Sagal dwaar ko chhad ke , gaheyo tuharo dwar". I went to guru sahib , put my plea in ardas and ask him to bless me with a gurvaak, When i lifted the rumala sahib and randomly opened the angs , I got ang 637 ਸੋਰਠਿ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ਘਰੁ ੧ ਤਿਤੁਕੀ Sorat'h, Third Mehl, First House, Ti-Tukas: ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru: ਭਗਤਾ ਦੀ ਸਦਾ ਤੂ ਰਖਦਾ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਧੁਰਿ ਤੂ ਰਖਦਾ ਆਇਆ ॥ You always preserve the honor of Your devotees, O Dear Lord; You have protected them from the very beginning of time. ਪ੍ਰਹਿਲਾਦ ਜਨ ਤੁਧੁ ਰਾਖਿ ਲਏ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਹਰਣਾਖਸੁ ਮਾਰਿ ਪਚਾਇਆ ॥ You protected Your servant Prahlaad, O Dear Lord, and annihilated Harnaakhash. ਗੁਰਮੁਖਾ ਨੋ ਪਰਤੀਤਿ ਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਭਰਮਿ ਭੁਲਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ The Gurmukhs place their faith in the Dear Lord, but the self-willed manmukhs are deluded by doubt. ||1|| ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਏਹ ਤੇਰੀ ਵਡਿਆਈ ॥ O Dear Lord, this is Your Glory. ਭਗਤਾ ਕੀ ਪੈਜ ਰਖੁ ਤੂ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਭਗਤ ਤੇਰੀ ਸਰਣਾਈ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ You preserve the honor of Your devotees, O Lord Master; Your devotees seek Your Sanctuary. ||Pause|| Yesterday my parents forced took me to a gurudwara 2 miles away , because of marriage bureau there, I again did ardas at that gurudwara itself and lifted the rumala sahib, I again got the same shabad as above. I don't know how things will turn in my favor. Right now I am utterly clueless , but I do know he's the causes of causes. Thats my blind faith in him. Its the only thing I have.
  21. I consider myself fortunate to live in same state as hazur sahib . Hazur sahib is 12 hour drive from my home and 9 hour by train journey. Hope to visit it soon . But before that I have a few questions on the different maryada in hazur sahib, and in the way the sikhs there worship. 1) Why does the main sewadar singh (currently Bhai Kulwant Singh ji) wrap a sheet of cloth around their body over their chola ? What is the meaning of it ? Its very much like nirmala sikh, except the sewadar singh wears a decorative one 2) Why do they hold what looks to me like an arrow with mini-kirpan head while doing ardas and later take wash it in water from godavari river and add that "blessed water" to kadah prasad ? 3) Why does the door to inner chamber (angitha sahib) is opened only after ardas at around 6 am in the morning and after ardas as the door is opened, the singh who did ardas rings bells vigorously with both hands . What is significance of this ? 4) Why does the singh in above pic (the main sewadar) once come outside the angitha sahib, lowers the purdah and rings bell , then once again lifts the purdah and goes in again . What is meaning of this ? I get a live telecast from hazur sahib on tv . I tend to wake up at 5.30 just to see all of this rituals, but I never understand what do they mean and whence they're doing it ? With all due respect to Sri Hazur sahib and maryada.
  22. Nope . I was never interested in cricket or football atleast. They not only seemed boring but dangerous also. Flying balls are dangerous . I was more inclined towards golf , billiards and archery . I still am in the process of making arrows
  23. I understand what you're saying bro , but the Chaar sahibzaade movie news is a revelation to me. Even Randeep Hooda's "Battle of Saragarhi" is kept on shelf it seems. Ajay Devgan was saying of making same movie but now he's making a movie on maratha warrior . Bollywood since day one is not very happy of sikh image. I wonder why. I feel its also due to links of Rajiv gandhi in film industry. Although his own son rahul gandhi is a national joke today. Why else do you think bollywood hates us ? They made movies like "singh is king" but not exactly promoting a healthy sikh image
  24. Are you being sarcastic with your praises or serious ? anyways , Yes I am from india , but since very early childhood I have been reading . And people around me encouraged that. But I am really bad in manly sports. I am also a homosexual (not that it is relevant to the post at hand, but I feel its still somehow related, as gay men are usually said to have a good command over the language , but poor in sports and financial skills as I am . With straight men it tends to be inverted . Poor language but good in sports and finance) . I guess I am just wired that way. PS : my english ain't that good, if you asked me
  25. your last line answers it all. We carry the emblem of our faith on our heads at all times in public. There's a reason why one of the takhats is Kesgarh . Our hair (and by extension, our turban) is the fort of our guru, his emblem. So its entirely our responsibility to carry its positive image in this world. Why can't we ourselves make our movies ? like how our ppl made Chaar sahibzaade etc ? Why most fashion icons are men who either shave or trim and keep a dude hairstyle ? like why not a turbaned guy sporting full beard ? make it common in clothe ads on billboards , etc . But even in punjab, clean shaven dude is the icon of "male" , in movie industry.