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  1. 2) Muslims in india are a mere 14% of population but its enough to send SOS signal among right wing hindu establishment. Thats the power of numbers ! And apparently hindus have quantity much, but no quality ! 1000 yrs of slavery under foreign rule and destruction of temples has definitely broken their back . Sikhs reduced from 61% of population in punjab in 2001 to mere 57% in 2011 . And this is population of people who identify as "sikh" which means even the monay sikhs . Wasn't that agitation back in the 1960s for Punjabi suba merely a sugercoat way of asking for a sikh majority state . Everyone knew what our real demand was back then ! But we've reached a stage where our immigration to foreign countries is causing a population vacuum in punjab and its naturally filled by hindu migrants from UP, bihar, etc. But they then settle there, and ultimately gain political power. And then they rear their ugly heads . Like hindus in phagwara last year mimicked sikh ardas in their function. Challenging sikh power by taking out ralleys wearing gaatrey . You get the point ? Numbers are crucial .
  2. I started this thread with the hope that we shall discuss "Why sikhs are decreasing and how we can multiply?" lol, islamic people were just a reference , not the main topic of this thread. Coming to point, 1) Ranjeet01 said sikhs have quality, not quantity . I would refer you sir to some of videos of Sukhpreet Singh Udhoke , a great pracharak of our times , and in one of his videos he says how quality and "ucha sucha jeevan" status of sikhs have detoriated considerably ! He says how back then , when a muslim woman approached Hari Singh Nalwa for marriage, the latter cited his Guru's maryada of not marrying second time when spouse is alive . But today we have turbaned singers make punjabi songs like "chakk ke le jaana tainu" (I will drag you from home). Earlier nihangs would say "Khol de buha nih sang , aaye ne nihang" (O daughter, open your door without shyness, its only nihangs). I remember an article in print media few years back titled "Where went all sikh taxi drivers?" . Back then sikhs here in mumbai were predominantly into taxi or trucking , and still are, but many former of past generation moved on as their kids prospered . In that article it said "how women felt safe with sikh men and thats why sardaarji always meant trust". Is it true with our youth today who eye young women with lust and catcall random girls on street (I have seen myself). Where is our quality ?? Our quality is diminishing and so are our quantity .
  3. I must say one impressive thing about muslims is their numbers, atleast here in india ! the way they multiply sends shivers down these right-wingers lol Why are sikhs so shy ? Why don't we have many kids . Most governments today are democratic which means numbers is power. No politician cares for sikhs because we don't have numbers But at the same time if you look at jews, they have lesser numbers but still power. Muslims, christians and hindus have quantity, Jews and parsis have quality. What about sikhs?
  4. State govt of maharashtr allocates 3600 crore rupees to build a memorial of shivaji , their god (who ironically doesn't have a temple, unlike other actual dieties of hindus) . His old forts are being repaired by allocation of hundreds of crores of rupees. RSS and hindutva does love this warrior king WAY TOO MUCH for too reasons 1) He was hindu king who fought mughals and other muslims , and most importantly, 2) He didn't challenge existing brahmin supremacy and rather appointed 8 brahmin heads in his council of ministers and called it "asht pradhan" (eight cardinals). No wonder everyone loves him so much here and more than god . But brahmins still won't allow a temple be built in his name. They just used him and his ignorance of religion to usurp power. Meanwhile, same maharashtr govt made changes to hazur sahib act so that the president of Hazur sahib would be directly appointed by the govt and not the board . They appointed a "sikh" MLA as new president of hazur sahib who wears tilak on his forehead and worships hindu gods. How could we have allowed this to happen right under our noses is BAFFLING ! Rather we welcomed his appointment with open arms and felicitated him . What has happened to our sikhs ? There's definitely a maratha revivalism happening right under our noses right since BJP came to power in 2014 in center and also current maharashtr govt is BJP ruled headed by brahmin chief minister. Marathas agitate for reservation but looks like CM (brahmin) isn't giving them any , but just pretense that he will . It is obvious even at superficial observation of things that brahmans just want to use maratha warrior clan to their own benefit . I am now wondering the ways these evil people have been manipulating "apney" in punjab (badals) . As our own state punjab is in disarray like never and our kaum is confused and lost like never, while the ones we thought as our brothers have now come to back stab us , I feel very uneasy Does anyone else here getting my thought process ?
  5. It originally started at something else ! There's no way ancient sages were stupid enough to preach that ancestors lived inside sun ! Sage yagyavalkya (to whom is credited shukl(white) recension of yajurveda and who is key figure of Brihadaranyaka (great forest) upanishad , which records his spiritual discussion with his spiritually inclined wife "maitreyi" , talks of "sun" repeatedly and it was believed that it was sun who revealed Shukl YajurVeda to this sage ! however, "sun" is akal purakh ! sun of suns ! People misinterpret ! It happens in sikhi too but much less frequent because our baani is simple to understand ! not tough sanskrit and also because we're newer religion, so not many modifications
  6. uncle ji no one expects you to be in sant mode all time . We can create a separate thread/section for light humor lol. And besides , lets stop using "sant" so generically haha "Sant" is ultimate spiritual station ! It is being one with god !
  7. Don't sikh men feel isolated socially ? How many men around you are wrapping a 5 meter cloth on their head and never cutting their hair/beard ? You know well ! Don't we all have those bad days in offices when its not just the work pressure but also because our turban isn't tied well and it hurts like hell !? then what excuse do kaurs have ? bullocks ! So now all those bhangre and gidde burraaaaahhhhhs are paying back , no ? We used to be known as a community of raga kirtans and "ucha sucha jeevan" but now people raise eyebrows if you tell them you're a "singh" and you don't drink or eat meat. Revelation of sikhi to punjabis was kinda mistake I guess lol
  8. Come on ! you're better than this ! Joking on a serious thread ?? this is where the problems start in panth ! we take things not seriously and rest you know
  9. So ridiculous ! Its unbelievable that some of us can be so stupid ! You should have asked him what stopped him from removing / cutting off that handicap for himself ? Its not like a circumcision is it ?? Its not a one way thing ! His parents chose dastaar for him , now he can cut his hair and say bye to it ? whats the deal ?!! why pretend to be victim of your own faith , when we have such a beautiful faith ? I think most sikhs are spoiled by freebies our guru always gave us (langar and feasts among others) come to my mind . Such people deserved to be hindus or muslims who would stand long queues in line in temple/dargah only to return empty handed/stomached
  10. As far as my knowledge of hinduism goes, havan is a way of worship and meditation prescribed by the first and second layer of the vedas, namely the "sanhita" (compilation) and "aranya"(forest). So the ancient indians followed this system while their wisdom about paarbrahm was still developing. However the later layers of vedas, the "brahmanas" and "upanishad" (literally meaning "sitting close to guru humbly") rejects this and outward worship of havan is replaced by inner contemplation and "knowing of self" which is core of every Upanishads. So even later day hinduism reject pretty much everything of what gurmat rejects. So a "sikh" who does havan is like a fool who takes a bullock cart when he has a private jet.
  11. People really miss the point, don't they? Ok adultery is bad, extra marital is haraam. But what if a person never had a chance to get married? What is extra marital for him? Its a cruel joke for him. First you deny him right to marry, and acceptance in society, then you say if he ever had sex, its sinful . If homosexuals are supposed to be celibate because their sex doesn't lead to reproduction, then it beggers the belief how is sex with contraceptives in heterosexual couples any different than gay sex? Both lead to same end point : no reproduction!
  12. People like to go in denial about things that makes them uncomfortable .
  13. Punjabis , esp Punjabi Sikhs , esp pendu or previous generation are known to be for being unrefined people ! The whole world ridicules our burrrrraaaaahhhhhhhh , bakre balaune , and so many other things haha . why don't we know it yet ?
  14. No one talked about the point I raised
  15. This is sukhmani sahib . 5th ashthapadi starting on the left bottom page, BTW did anyone else notice second line of the first pada is missing in this pothi ..It misses the line "ek bhi na dae das bhi hir lae" So , baani as we know it is "das bastu lae paache paave. ek bast kaaran bikhot gavaave. ek bhi na dae das bhi hir lae" but here in this pothi, we have "das bastu lae paache paave. k bhi na dae das bhi hir lae" even 'eedi' is missing . Perhaps someone made writing mistake