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  1. I didn't say nihangs are man-made. I said, nihangs are not a jathebandi.
  2. Nihangs are absolutely not a jathebandi. All else is man-made.
  3. My family also originated from Montgomery District, now known as Sahiwal district, so I took a keen interest. However, luckily, no one in our family suffered fatalities (that i am aware of). I felt that one of the young commentators in the "Seven Days in Summer: countdown to Partition" programme on Tuesday was heavily biased against Sikhs, painting us "extremists" yet the Muslims were not described as such....
  4. S1ngh, Are you an administrator?
  5. Was there anything wrong in what I said? If so, please point it out, I'll happily tell you where you are wrong.
  6. Why was my post removed? What are you afraid of?
  7. Unless anyone has been living in the Gobi desert over the last 20 odd years, it is clearly apparent that jatts are disproportionately represented in either grooming or running away with Muslim men - and this is despite accounting for confounding factors such as "most Sikhs are jatt". The other notable factor which we can't ignore is that the victims are nearly always from the Midlands. Which, for those of you who aren't aware, is notorious for having heavy drinking jatts (compared with London or elsewhere). The jatts openly boast about their drinking exploits, in songs or on social media. Heck, I still remember when they called into a discussion programme on Nihal's show on the BBC Asian Network, who was discussing alcohol abuse in the "panjabi" community: "we jatts have enzymes which metabolise alcohol more efficiently than other Asian races"!!! There are clearly a lack of strong male role models with strong Sikhi-inspired values in jatt families. Hardly any of their menfolk wear a turban. They're now paying a heavy price for substituting Sikhi for Punjabi culture, which, even to this day, they haven't realised. I visit the Midlands often because I have extended family living there. There is literally a pub on every corner, mostly owned and run by Punjabi's and they see it as a "badge of honour" that they spend all their time drinking. This is a hangover from the "black country" industrial age, when drinking was seen as a way of socialising in the early days of immigration (no other past times) and as a way of "rehydrating the body" after working in furnaces. However, that can not explain why 2nd and 3rd or 4th generation Midlands Sikhs drink themselves to cirrhosis and a disproportionate number of Sikh females (who identify themselves as jatt) vulnerable to exploitation.
  8. Roma gypsies are descended from jats. Already well established links.
  9. He has publicly stated that he supports his mother. Given that he is now a public servant, it is vital that the public are aware of his background in order to view his forthcoming stance on key issues through the prism of his mother's history. It's not "putting labour politicians down", it's informing the public - that's the purpose of the press. Unless of course, you live in North Korea.
  10. I thought everyone knew this about Dhesi? It's common knowledge. Jagir's Kaur's daughter was involved with another guy who came from a "different caste". How he will navigate through the forthcoming caste discrimination bill and associated debate, any debates about so called "honour" violence and/or killings remains to be seen.
  11. Whether jats bow to Khatris or Brahmins or not is utterly irrelevant. The jats and "jat sikhs" of Punjab have officially been declared "backward class" which was one of their demands in order to gain access to government jobs in the reservation categories. Regardless of what jats think of themselves, and they certainly think a lot of themselves, the jats are shudra as per the caste system. In west London, the jats are prepared to marry anyone and anything to get the infamous "laal passport". Sikhs go around telling themselves and others "saadi qaum vakhri" - in what way is your quam vakhri? You all follow the caste system - just like the very people you despise so much! In fact, more so than them - oh the irony. So-called separate nation indeed. Keep deluding yourselves. This man was clearly deluded if indeed it was the case that caste was a prime factor. What a waste of a life over utter nonsensical non-sikh belief systems. Whether jats are a caste, ethnic group or a race is irrelevant. The Guru's were clear - recognise the human race as one.
  12. S4NGH, How do you know he is married or amritdhari?
  13. Ignorance? First of all, it's not the Trade and Industry Minister. For your information, the Minister for Trade and Investment is Lord Price. He wasn't in India last week. https://www.gov.uk/government/ministers/minister-of-state-for-trade-and-investment If you mean the former Business Secretary, Sajid Javid, then at least get the correct ministry. Isn't that rather "stupid" or shall I say, "ignorant" of you? Secondly, Priti Patel, will make no more trips to India than previous ministers. And why shouldn't they? For all the problems we Sikhs think India has caused us, India is, like it or not, a force to be reckoned with. Every country from Australia to the USA and Canada wants to do trade deals with India. What do you expect British government ministers to do, sit there and pass a good business deal when they see one just because of Jagsaw? Priti Patel or Joe Bloggs, trade missions to India are going to happen. Fact. Unless you live in cuckoo land, there is no such thing as ethical foreign policy. Thirdly, current Sikh leaders have done more damage to Sikh rights than any Patel can try. Be it Sikh Council UK meetings with Modi, Badal and Captain Amrinder Singh pretending to hate eachother when they have in reality, collectively made a fool of Sikhs, or gurdwara pardhaans lining their own pockets.