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When is the best time to do Chaupai Sahib ? A few have said its the best parth to do when in troubled times, is this true, please advise.

http://www.turbancampaign.com/updates/sikh-community-issues-ultimatum-to-guramit-singh-denounce-edl-by-vaisakhi-or-face-excommunication/ Bunch of jokers they call themselves Turban Campiagn yet theres nothing on theIr website of whats going on in India with Dastarrs being knocked by Police, their only interest is to be against the edl and Guramit who oppose islaimfiction of the U.K

whats the point in putting this question to people who are not going to live there? isnt it better to put the question to the people of Punjab ?

Its not, already checked.

Can someone email me please the sas Sikh Awarness Society email presentation, its the one which was around a year go. Pm for email add. Be very greatful.

It doesn’t promote any hate or ignorance. It promotes awareness and a true picture of the current climate. The two guys on there are talking from experience. One is a non Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia, and is one a non Muslim who was born in Luton and still lives there. Luton by the way is an area outside of London which has produced suicide bombers, grooming gangs, and some the most extreme Muslim organizations. I don’t have to rely on their info, cos what I have scene in the U.K over the last 20 yrs is what they are talking about.

@ 30 mins also other things said throughout this discussion that effect us and we are too victims of at the hands of Muslims. http://www.youtube.c...4&feature=feedu

You need a balance of both.

History isn’t belief or philosophy both of which are at the core of religion.

Agree or even a over head projecter whee you can follow it with translation. Good ideas but Most old fogee Bhais dont care they just want Akand Paath Money.

I disagree totally; you have start with the most basic but the mist important. Which would be Mool Mantra – (Translated) Names of the Gurus Significant Contributions by each Guru, i.e. Guru Nanak –‘s basic beliefs , Guru Amar Das further institutionalized Langar, Guru Arjan Dev laid the foundation of the Harmandir Sahib and first shaeed Guru, Guru Gobind Singh created the Khlasa, along with all other contribution each of each Guru. These basic things. Values of Sikhi which people can easily inforce, Kirt Karo Vand Shacko, Naam Jappo. The above is where you start 84 and history comes after.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkDPz_gwC6A A few truths coming here, how her parents didnt teach her much nor did the Gurdwara infact,

Eastenders are currently running a story of a girl called Whitney who gets picked up a organize gang who want to use her for sex. She first is picked by one the guys who flatter her with flashy cars and nights out, and sees him as a boy freind Then she has to sleep with his friends or face the knuckles. Though the sex gang are white in the programme this typical of what Pakistanis do. Charity comic relief have made a special espoisde dealing with such abuse. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ktpVHTg_cyw Its scarey imgaine what its like in real life and this is just short programme which is a very mild version of it.

I am 100 % against Muslim perverts who prey on Non Muslim girls, however this name thing. Here's an baptized Sikh girl with the same name, it's not the name it the person. Pakistani Pervs don't care bout the name they just want the kaffir girl. (MOD EDIT: Please refrain from putting up peoples information that bear no relevence to this topic) Dont focus on the name, prevention better than cure.

Eastenders are currently running a story of a girl called Whitney who gets picked up a organize gang who want to use her for sex. She first is picked by one the guys who flatter her with flashy cars and nights out, and sees him as a boy freind Then she has to sleep with his friends or face the knuckles. Though the sex gang are white in the programme this typical of what Pakistanis do. Charity comic relief have made a special espoisde dealing with such abuse. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=ktpVHTg_cyw Its scarey imgaine what its like in real life and this is just short programme which is a very mild version of it.

Look edl are doing there thing and SAS their, they speak they same things in some ways but in different ways. Just leave them to it. Constant showing videos of boozed up edl isn’t helping theres clued up people in edl like Tommy Robinson/Steven lenon who speak on the same level as sas spokesman.

I think it should be repeated. Can any one on here confirm when and what time, as the word will be spreading but some people will have missed it. What was that term used "socio" something

People who are gay in our our community need treatment and advise, its not accecpted and is moraley wrong.

What's your views on the west and a few others making decisions for countries they don't Govern. We are in recession the Budget for the defence has been cut British soldiers have been sent to Afghan and Iraq, now with all this they are packed of to Libya. For a start what business is it of Britain or anyone else of internal issues of other countries? Do Libya a come here and bombard us? No Our soldiers are needed here in the U.K protecting our borders, on our streets, where islamistion and extremists are a threat. Britain produces more Muslim terrorist than the rest of U.K put together. We need our solders here. Thoughts go back to the early 70s when Indra took Sikh soldiers and made them fight in war in which was nothing to do with Sikhs or India, what the Bangladeshis and Pakistani done was their own affairs . (I don't support Khalistan) Our Sikh solders are needed on the border protecting our land our jermeen our Hertidge not fighting with siri Lankans, on a issues which are nothing to do with us. India needs to send Hindu soldiers to stop these Bangladeshi refugees coming, they are spreading in India, and will start coming to Punjab soon as that's where work and money is. Fair enough bhaer come to Punjab work as servants and slog out on the farm while we do the paper work and purchasing, end of the day bahier in Punjab gets 2-3000 rs a month he wouldn't get have that in Bihar, but they need to kept under manners i.e. No voting rights.

For a start any Sikh who sees him as Holy man needs to go back a read our scripture and philopshy. We don’t deal with self styled holy men (which include bogus Babars), we have Gurus and God. In my eyes Ramdev is not holy man, I see him as a fitness trainer and some who could help with certain illness or health. and that’s it. One Hindu says good things bout Guru Gobind Singh and all Sikhs are to view Hindus as good people doubt!!!

I don’t think Ramdevs is fooling anyone where do you think he is ?

Those” rants” as you put it have facts and evidence.

Never had a problem with Ramdev, his yoga has helped many people; I've tried my self and benefited. Don't know why people are pessimistic and negative bout him saying good things bout Shri Guru Gobind Singh Jee. Oh "ramdevs got hidden agenda" "his fooling Sikhs" you sound like morons, trapped in illusion and paranoia.

Anyone got a upload, will it be shown again ?

When the BBC report Pakistani grooming gangs they always report them as “Asian” this is an injustice to us, Chinese, Thai people and everyone else who us asian. When you challenge the BBC on the subject like in the letter below they struggle to give a real answer, but if we withdraw ourselves from the term Asian then they will have to be specific. Dear Sir/Madam. I wish to make a complaint about your use/abuse of the descriptive term "Asian" to generalise anyone from the continent of Asia and the sub continent of India. It would seem that your use of the term is typically one of negativity when a particular group is in the news for reasons other than socially and culturally conducive reasons. Many people are upset at the generalised term "Asian" when most of the population of the minorities who do come from the continent of Asia and the Indian Sub continent do not use this term. Sikhs, Hindus, Buddhists, Chinese, Vietnamese, Burmese are all Asian, they can all be described under the terms of Asian and it is in my opinion quite wrong to generalise such a diverse swathe of people in this broad, sweeping inaccurate term. It is something I feel that is in danger of creating a broad distrust of minorities in general. If one community is in the news for criminal and public order issues then they should be described specifically. Yours Sincerley