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The following two tuks will definitely clear the mind and answer the original question. Ram Gayo Rawan Gaoy - this I understand to mean Ram Chander left this abode. Ram Naam Urmay Gayo, Ja Ke Sam Nahin Koye - this tuk gives importance to Naam. Which naam? Ram Naam. If we see within the Hindu religion, there is another difference between Ram and Ram Naam. Because when somebody dies, they carry the demised body and chant, "Ram Naam Sat Hai" Nothing can be Sat if it is perishable. It clearly shows that Ram Naam and Ram Chander are very different altogether. alpha