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Yes I think you need it more than muhammad does actually if you cant condemn anything muhammad did which must suggest you agree with his vile teachings and practises. Shameful

We show compassion to human beings regardless of their background we don't show compassion to muhammadans hell bent on converting or killing us or making us pay jizya. That is the difference. As for stoning ordered by muhammad by the very fact, as you stated, he allowed the stoning of the adulterous jewish couple on his orders...doesnt that suggest to you that he allows stoning and agree's with it? Had he not agreed with it he would have followed the example of jesus and told the crowd its not allowed but no he said go ahead stone them to death. Therefore your not using your brain here and your logical has failed to grasp the message he was sending to muslims, besides the sharia states this also. Those who commit zina are to be stoned to death, you this the sahaba's and salaf's did not follow this to the letter and spoke out against stoning? No they did not they endorsed what muhammad wanted. So lets please get a reality check of muhammad and stop trying to suggest that Islam nor any other abrahmic cult like judaism or Christianity can in any way or shape or form be to the high moral standards of Sikhi because they can't.

You have completely over stepped the evidence I given you of what muslims are taught in their own perverted and backward scriptures and you chose to attack me like a typical moslem m0ron . i aint a guru and nor are Sikhs told to emulate their guru's unlike muslims they are taught to emulate muhammad because he was the best man ever created by allah according to their teachings furthermore their so called perfect man will interceed on their behalf on their imaginery judgement day where allah will only listen to muhammad who can help muslims get to paradise jannah. This is how absurd their islamic religion is and this is why we as Sikhs should never tolerate it because that would be tolerating falsehood and darkness. If you want to keep massaging the ego of muhammadans you carry on but real sikhs have no time or patience for Islam.

It is widely accepted as you stated what muhammad wanted done to jewish couple that the sharia islamic ruling for adulterous people is stoning. Muhammad did not speak out against it and infact endorsed it. Muhammad was a hypocrite and also valued the life of ayesha even though many alleged she was having affairs left right and centre so he came up with the ruling that a woman must have 4 witnesses to the act of zina before she can be stoned. And obviously it is near impossible to find 4 witnesses there looking on to the act of intercourse. So therefore he made securing a rape conviction almost impossible. But anyway this is just one aspect of Muhammads dark and uncivilised side, if it was just the one or two things that was wrong in his preachings and logic then I would have thought he was just like all the other abrahmics of the time but the quranic verses and hadiths unashmedly show him up as a sly, murderous, rapist, hypocritical and self glorifying warlord and not a pious man of God if you compare him to our holy and blessed Sikh guru's.

dude here are verses and reference you need to show you what kinda man muhammad was. Inappropriate sexual relationships particularly with his underage wife bibi ayesha 9yrs when the prophet was 54years old. Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). (Source:Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64) Narrated ‘Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that ‘Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death).” what you know of the Quran (by heart)’ (Source:Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 65) Narrated ‘Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with ‘Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death).(Source: Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 88 ) Qur'an (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam). Qur'an (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses (to adultery), flog them..." Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since if there are not four male witnesses, the rape "did not occur". Qur'an (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah." Qur'an (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives. Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Qur'anic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.

Futhermore to sunnys anti Sikh male rants in his artifcle. I would like to also bring up the point that it is the norm to have matriachal culture in Sikh households. Punjabi women usually rule the home and family and they also usually want their offspring to be boys rather than girls because girls are are a liability according to their experiences. You will usually hear that they want the first born to be a son and the second to be a daugther then the brother can look after his younger sister. Why do they say this? Are punjabi / indian women stupid? Are they they sexist? No because know the realities of this world and they know how bad guys can be out there so they want to protect their daughters. And it is true girls are a liability especially during times of war and strife. I have met many a feminist punjabi aunty who used to fight boys to get "equal rights" in their youth but after having both sons and daughters. They definitely prefer sons. It it is also natural that mothers favor sons over daughters and dads favor daughters over sons. Punjab being a border state has had to deal with many a muslim invader and mob taking away the weak females to breed with and humilitate the non-muslim infidel because allah is pleased with that act. women cant physically defend their families like men can and thus the preference of boys over girls is engrained in area's where there is recent history of conflict. Also if we look in places like iraq the yazidi's were over run and their women carted off by islamic guys to be raped and enslaved the yazidi guys were beheaded if they refused to convert to islam. Sikhs had similar experiences now imagine if there was a huge ration of females compared to men in punjab that would be a huge national security risk and disaster as the conquesting invaders like the muslims would have a field day with the women because they are physically weak and mentally weak too during times of war and strife they can not pick up the sword and fight unless they really have to they are programmed by nature to preserve their life and life of any kids they have even if it means for them to convert to another religion.

No problem my friend, Sahih bukhari (authentic hadiths) ie the traditions of the prophet muhammad. Just go on any islamic website that has hadiths and you will see the verses. I can print them and reference them if you don't believe me?

I think sunny hundal is missing the main point here why there is such a ho ha its not just anand karaj issue with non-sikhs defaming and mocking the religious ceremony. The other main issue is also the breeding stock for british born punjabi Sikh males is very limited when their breeding stock is let loose to breed with non-sikhs then you basically causing the genocide of your own community and as a minority community it is the fascist governments dream to allow this to happen so that minorities disappear. The atheist/chrisitan white english community complain of this issue also, they dont let their womenfolk interbreed with asian males and if they do they give propaganda in the media and in movies to demonise asian men. Also the white english population can sustain their numbers because they are the overwhelming majority. The punjabi Sikhs in the UK don't even make up 2% of the UK population. The muslims who have numerous people from different muslim countries and converts so dont have this headache but even then they enforce the rule that their muslim females can only marry a fellow muslim while their menfolk must convert the non-muslim woman they want before marriage. We know that non-sikh women do not tend to marry Sikh guys that much because of stereotypes and negative portrayals bearded turban guys have in the west. Also in the west is atheism hedonism is the cultural and ideology norm and if Sikhs are true to their beliefs it makes them very different to your average citizen who is usually an who just wants to get drunk after hard week at work, go club, sleep around and form relationships that way. Religious people cant do those kinda activities and thus it puts them in a very narrow pool of partners they can attract and be attracted to. Already if you go on popular dating sites and apps the modern British born Indian girls are very easy and easy goods for any guy who wants to use them for a bit of fun to convert them to another non-dharmic ideology. The muslim girls are willing to have relationships with non-muslim guys undercover but would find it very hard to marry a non-muslim or have his kids and take on his religion. The atheist white / black girls want guys who looks the best and earns the most money so tend to go for gym going muscles guys or guys who would pay for their dream lifestyles. So what kinda of girls are left for punjabi sikh males? very limited stock of quality girls for marriage prospects. And enemies of minorities and enemies of Sikhs know this and thus push forward propaganda to demonise minority communities.

Care to try some pork? or profess that muhammad is not a prophet of God? Muhammad who married a 6year old had sex with her when she was 9yr old when he was 54yr old. Muhammad who had 9+wives yet tells muslim men they can only have 4. Muhammad who made women prove they were raped by providing 4 witnesses to the act otherwise the woman gets stoned to death for zinnah adultary. Need I go on? And you want to defend Islam and so called prophet of God? Abrahmic cultist much?

Says the muhammadan undercover. Well done for exposing yourself for the moslem m0ron that you evidently are. In Sikhi we have love for those who dont want to harm our religion or people, we have a big heart and welcome all who want to leave in peace and harmony with us. But not for fools like you who want Sikhi vanished into the pages of history and your dark Islamic demonic virus dominate the world

oh you really want to go there? I should join ISIS? I see he muslim moronic virus as got to your brain.

As I've said before I wouldn't trust a muslim male who wanted to learn or become a Sikh unless he can prove the islamic demon that is infesting his soul and brain is removed. I would also test him by either asking him to spread sikhi openly in the streets and especially to muslims, eat pork, swear against quranic verses and especially curse the alleged "prophet" muhammad and film it thus confirming he has been cleasened of the islamic mental virus. The liberal Sikh's would have no place in grooming new converts to Sikhi because they would give no conviction for the new converts to be strong in Sikhi. New converts must be fundamentalists for Sikhi so that violent and backward abrahmic death cults like Islam are smashed to the ground metaphorically and literally (when the time comes)

Well most educated people know this already that British aid the terrorists and are the biggest terrorists. Every person knows the deal these days the internet and social media has shed light on the real world politics going on and has been going for a very long time. The elite whitey westerners, ie the western country rich royal families, banksters, aristocrats have always used violence and force to get what they want and that is monies. So when the Rothschild funded White christian/atheist British East India Company army came to the borders of Punjab they were astonished at the power base the Sikhs had created for themselves and how well trained their army was. The Sikhs were tested by fire having fought blood, sweat and tears against the most evil group of people since humanity begun ie the muslim hordes of persia, mughuls and afghans. The Khalsa Sikhs were military tough and fanatically fierce they would have no problem beheading a non-sikh at the drop of a hat if tried to invade land and take away authority Sikhs had liberated to create their empire. What the White British Imperialists did was espionage and subversion funding islamic jihadi terrorists groups, funding insurrection amoung the muslim masses, funding regional punjabi rivalry between the Sikh kingdoms, funding spies and turncoat generals. etc,etc Lord Dalhousie the 1st governor general of Punjab I believe was tasked in destroying Sikh power. He even states it in his memoirs (I think) that it he was ordered to make sure Sikhs were no longer a political world power. Where did these orders come from? They must have come from the British government and British Monarchy (ie Queen Victoria). So fast forward anglo-Sikh wars 1 & 2, Annexing of the Sikh kingdom, Stealing of kohnioor, Victimisation & subjugation of Sikhs and Punjabi's in general in their own homeland, invasion of golden temple and killing off the Akali nihung guardians, destroying Maharajah's palaace at darbar sahib and replacing it with a dirty christian clock tower as their sign of victory of British White supremacist Christianity over Sikhs and Sikhi, shipping of the young maharajah duleep singh and forcing him to be apart from his mother and forcing Christianity upon him, then come the funding and grooming of jinnah and demand for pakistan, spiting of punjab, British army threats to bomb and kill armed Sikh jatha's who were protecting Sikhs from being massacred and punjab from being split up, to 1984 getting involved in alleged enemy USSR allied India and interfering in the internal affairs of India by assisting the Indian government and army in attacking Golden temple through covert arms, intelligence and subversion. We can see all the evil and mass murder that has happened to many people not just the Sikhs, all points towards the whities in the upper levels of the British atheist /Christian establishment.

Jus reign is awesome. Just wish they would add some Sikhi propaganda to the mix too so that they can convert as many non-sikhs as they can with their large followings. The muslim morons are unashamedly in promotion of their islamic death cult faith our moronic pendu punjabi Sikhs do not see the bigger ideological picture of whats going on and let their fame go to waste

True there is no difference between the Indian atheist establishment and the British white atheist establishment both are murderous and corrupt as each other only difference is the military superior British White establishment uses its Brownie and Blackie proxy puppet leaders and politicians around the world via the commonwealth (former british empire) to do its economic bidding that's all it boils down to. And if these non-white puppets step out of line they are labelled a national security threat, are demonised, are propagandised against, are killed off eventually when these western upper class mega rich elitests fund a military coup or terrorist groups (usually islamic jihadi) covertly to change the geo-political scenery to the west's advantage to make more money. And as for Bengali's end of the day when it comes to their forefather were soldiers of Indian princely states that allied with the British east india company army to attack and invade the Sikh empire and the punjab. So we should have very little sympathy for anything that is done to them, call it karma. I think the Indian Sikh soldiers who fought pakistani army in 1971 war on behest of Indira and bengalis were mugs they shouldn't have bothered, should have let them rot and be raped by their pakistani muslim brothers.

More hilarious material muslim fundamentalists getting owned

i love the way this white atheist american woman tackles and exposes muslim preachers and Islam for what it is.

Generally you dont see Pakistani's bully British Sikhs thats a myth. Pakistani's are usually best friends or worst foes with British Sikhs in educational insitutions. The reason why Pakistanis and Sikhs get on is cos of the same sort of desi food, music, bolly movies culture and language. The reason they wont get on is cos of Islam, when Pakistani's get fundamentalist about their abrahmic arab islamic cult then they start to treat Sikhs with contempt or try to groom Sikh girls for use and abuse and into Islam then the problems start. The Sikhs of the past were armed with weapons so any non-sikh who wanted to have beef with a Sikh would know he would likely be killed off very quickly by the angry fanatical Sikh. This is why pathan moslem tribesmen who used to be feared by Hindu populations started to fear Sikhs because Sikhs would kill pathans for a joke and increase the Sikh empire westwards into afghanistan the punjabi moslems (modern day pakistani's) used to stay clear of angering Sikhs cos Sikhs were seen as crazy killers if enraged as they were the dominant armed power having defeated the moslem persians, moslem afghans and moslem mughual invaders. Dashmesh pitta Ji gave Khalsa Sikhs the dastar and uncut kesh which made them vunerable to get physically attacked but he also created a remedy which was for them to always be armed with modern weapons of the time if we relate this to todays times we would have to see Sikhs armed with AK47's and combat knives. So moral of story is when Sikhs started to neglect their warrior and armed religious rights and hertiage they become easy victims for harassment and attacks. In a modern demoractic nation such as the UK it is difficult to reconcile Khalsa religious rights of being armed and being unarmed equal as other citizens of the nation but the criminal will always use arms against non-armed civilian soft targets which is why there is a huge criminal christian black population and criminal muslim population in prisons. When Sikhs return back to their faith and start to carry modern weapons not to use against fellow Sikhs and not to commit crimes but against non-sikh aggressors then we will see the respect for Sikhs increase and population of Sikhs increase because the Sikh lion will be seen as the dominant alpha male figure to look up to. At the moment the turbanned Sikhs are seen as easy targets for mockery and physically attacks, when then dastaar wearing Sikhs learn their lesson and listen to their Guru they will be feared and respected once more.

I tend to see the bigger picture rather than seeing what looks at face value. The bigger picture in this case is dangers of slow and subtle normalisation and islamification. When you allow a nazi like ideology like islam have access to your womenfolk (ie the breeding stock) then you are asking for your community to get wiped out. Islam does not allow their womenfolk breed with non-muslims but actively encourage their menfolk to breed with non-muslim women then you know what the agenda is there. It is to wipe out the non-muslim populations and faiths by depopulation of future generations. Muhammad was an evil genius he knew you have to control the females strictly like sheep so that muslim numbers will rise and rise. Maybe the naive lot within our own community cant see the dangers until their own sisters and daughters get groomed but the warning signs have been given, the signs are there for those not blinded by liberalism atheism. Why do muslim girls in vblogging and social media promote mostly Islamic stuff? Why aren't our community girls doing this? You see It is up to our kaum to see, think and react. We have leaders who have sold their souls and daughters to illusions of this world. So it is up to us to ensure we are the leaders who take charge shaping how our community will be in the future. Here is this camp sounding gay looking metrosexual muslim guy called yousef grooming this very cheap and easy acne prone Indian girl simmi singh girl

I agree with your sentiments there and I for one welcome the firey Sikh pachaarik anyday over lilly liberal atheist punjabi fat arse huge beer belly, samosa pakora eating gyani kinda parchaar giving his lectures in punjabi to an audience of 1-5 max in a gurdwara with a eldery congration half aasleep usually and aunties gossiping about anothers scandalous daughter or the mother in law telling the world about their wayward daugther in law in the cornor or some other latest hot juicy gossip . Jagraj has attracted many young followers to Sikhi, many non-sikhs are interested now and even the lost sheep of atheist punjabi's are coming back into the Sikhi fold because they tired of their atheist lifestyles their seeking higher and more deeper meanings to their lives and at the moment the abrahmic religions of christanity and islam are preying on them with huge amount of propaganda out there especially on youtube. They hate it when Sikh parchariks spread the truth of Sikhi to their open minded congregations they want their people to stay naive and stupid and subservient. I occasionaly listen to firey christian and islamic preachers to laugh at their absurd concepts of this dunia and beyond but also they have that charsima and entertainment value which is why people follow them rather than the placid half dead hippy preachers who bore me and others to sleep.

Point being that she claims she from Indian hindu/sikh family yet flirting and hanging out with muslim guys. This woman is prime grooming material easy and cheap as chips for the predetory muslim males and setting a bad example to other vunerable /impressionable Indian girls. who have been brainwashed by western and bollywood movies to think its all good to go with guys outside your community cos it works out in the movies right? and movies are real life surely? idiiots.

we have another liberal <banned word filter activated> here. Go cry me a river and not reply to my posts I have no time for sellouts, thanks.

Yeah I had mates like that at uni too they always got drunk, taking drugs, mocking how easy cheap and easy white/hindu/sikh girls are, yet always preaching Islam to their muslim sisters ironically and hypocritcally. And their muslim "sisters" would go around clubbing and sleeping around with kafir guys behind their backs pretending to be all religious when seeing a muslim guy. Islam is a complete joke its all over the place but muslims are encouraged to give dawah to each other and to non-believers to get brownie points from allah/muhammad. I dont trust muslim guys either not even shia or sufi muslim guys never mind salafi or sunni because their ideological programmed to be against our belief system and our population. I think islam has to be defeated in them first before they can be welcomed into Sikhi. Until the islamic demon thats infesting them is not removed they cant break free from this mentality and be a potential Sikh. In Guru Nanak Ji's and Guru Gobind Singh Ji's times many muslims converted to Sikhism through geuine spirtual reasons, during banda bahadhur singhs military reign muslims were forced to become Sikhs and the Sikh demographics and geo-political influence exploded paving the way for an empire.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEFiMrYQmfIfozesU2NCTdQ What do you guys make of this girl

I recently saw a post on some fb Sikh group that was complaining about muslim guy signing up to Sikh society events after they learned he was a muslim through his name. That made me ponder what if the guy genuinely wanted to learn about Sikhi and become a Sikh? How should you deal with muslim guys who are interested? We know they are ideologically brainwashed from birth to hate non-muslims and their beliefs so should we scare of potential new Sikhs guys from Islam and barring them by background checks? Or should we welcome them into the fold but have extra vigilance placed on them so that we see their motives are genuinely spiritual and love for Sikhi not sinister or predatory on grooming women undercover.