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  1. Argueing with Chamars is useless. Bhagat Ravidass Ji was in plain words a Chamar and admits this in his hymns and he challenged the Brahmins in Banaras, told them to worship one God only. Guru Nanak Dev Ji was Jagat Guru and Sikhi has converts from Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, Jainaism and even some Jews.
  2. I will be voting for no one . The country of a island cannot get it self out of recession when other nations already have. Of course, they will keep on handing out child benefit to keep their British empire going (most likely in London). But otherwise they will be winning Muslim votes and saying their still the British bulldog they once were. Hell even a bulldog stops barking after a while.
  3. It gave the Whites another chance to be racist again. Europe was a scientific discovering and they broke off from Asia. They have wasted alot of time searching on the outside. It is time they started following Gurmat and begin the inner spiritual journey. When ever a recession happens even in India they just steal from the banks and loot and plunder. And when it's over the people build up again to do the same mistake.
  4. IT takes a 18 kilometre drive through forests and it means crossing a meandering river 26 times. This is the only way to reach Nauarangia Don in west Champaran in north Bihar. A small police station which uses a tractor as its official vehicle is the only sign of government presence. In the last decade the government teacher has not made an appearance in this village even once and there is no doctor to attend to any medical emergency. But even though the benefits of modern times may be missing, there are occasional signs of urban modernism in this largely Tharu tribe dominated village. The villagers watch the latest Bollywood movies with generator powered CD systems, elders occasionally replace their traditional country liquor with Baccardi and the young wear jeans—this village is connected to urban India through its increasing number of migrant labour and a WLL telephone. Bihar is seeing an exodus. Lured by bright city lights and anxious to escape economic stagnancy and domestic feudal relations, the state is being abandoned by its people. In the census decade that ended in 2001, 12 lakh people are estimated to have left Bihar, next only to the 24 lakh that left Uttar Pradesh. Bihar’s population at present stands at 9 crore. ‘‘At least 80 per cent of all people my age have migrated. More than desperation, it is a search for better economic opportunities,’’ says Rithesh Kumar, a 22 year old who runs a WLL public booth in Naurangia. There are 24 villages in the Don—habitations inside the 900 sq km Valmiki Nagar Tiger Project forests—where Ritesh says the situation is alike. ‘‘Only a half used to be away just five years ago,’’ he says. Bihar is ill-equipped to meet the rising aspirations of its mobile youth. There are no new jobs in Bihar and the existing ones are vanishing—a recent survey by the Bihar Industries Association found that 54 per cent of the existing industrial units are closed, 26 per cent are sick and only 20 per cent are working. Even for the illiterate agricultural labour, going to Punjab and Haryana is an attractive option for it gives more money and the farm owners there are well behaved. ‘‘The migrants to Punjab appreciate the fact that the work culture outside is more democratic,’’ says Indu B. Sinha, a former researcher at the Bath University in England. Homegrown social engineer of Bihar Laloo Prasad Yadav agrees. ‘‘What is the problem if people migrate? It happens all over the world. All migrants from Bihar are economically better off than before and they do not want to be suppressed by landlords,’’ he says. Add to this the yearly floods that displace many people who are never rehabilitated. The population density—which increased from 685 in 1991 to 880 in 2001, per sq km—is the second highest in the country—and the pressure on land is very high. ‘‘The push factors to leave Bihar are very strong,’’ says Hetukar Jha, a sociologist at Patna University. "Delhi is among the first destinations of the migrating Bihari. An estimate in 2001 by the Planning Board showed that nearly 11 per cent of Delhi’s population was from Bihar"When the agricultural season peaks in Punjab, there are days in west Champaran’s Bethia Railway station when 1000 tickets are sold for Amritsar in the daily Jan Nayak Express. Ticket clerks say it used to be in the range of hundreds three years ago when the train became a daily. The packed Muzaffarpur-Amritsar train tells the migration story best. Money orders are another way of gauging the increase in the numbers leaving Bihar. In 2001-2002 money order remittance from Bihari migrants to their homes was Rs 518 crores. In 2002-2003 it is Rs 682 crores, up by 32 per cent. Delhi is among the original destinations of the migrating Bihari—in 2001, the National Capital Region Planning Board (NCRPB) estimated that nearly 11 per cent of Delhi’s population was from Bihar. Migration to Punjab peaked before militancy and has now picked up again. Mumbai, Surat, Guwahati, Hyderabad and Nagpur also attract migrants from Bihar. In Assam, the number of Biharis are estimated to be more than 10 lakh. It is in Mumbai and Assam that they are at the receiving end of some radical groups’ wrath. They were attacked in Mumbai two months ago at a Railway recruitment exam and then in Guwahati this month. A study conducted by the Institute of Human Development, New Delhi, in six villages of Gopalganj, Madhubani and Purnea districts shows migration nearly doubled in the last two decades—in 2000, 49 per cent families had a migrant, compared to 28 per cent in 1983. The same study finds that only 6.56 percent of the migrants had a government job at their destinations. But that has not stopped the Biharis from abandoning Bihar.
  5. The reason is Sikhs are very quick in leaving their old ways for a new country like Canada. Most of the youth don't know very much about Sikhism other than they are Punjabis. There is a drug trade going on. The wise ones at the Sikh Lehar Centre are too busy looking at issues in India. If no Prachar is done now the Indo-Canadian community will be Christian in 20 years time.
  6. The confusing thing is that the Akhand Kirtani Jatha is also used for the Bhai Randhir Singh Da Jatha (Ludhiana). On that akj uk forum they have abused almost all puratan sikh institutions and saying their leaders should be burnt alive because they are masands. They mock anyone called a Sant. They are allowed to do vichar of Gurbani but to say it is not Guru-Krit, tells us they are twisting Sikhi.
  7. Sikhism: In the late 1990s the highest estimate we had for the number of Sikhs in the world was 20 million, from www.sikhs.org. Most estimates were between 16 and 18 million. About 80% of the world's Sikhs live in the province of Punjab, in India. Barrett's latest publications estimate 23 million Sikhs worldwide. The Sikh homeland is the Punjab, in India, where today Sikhs make up approximately 61% of the population. This is the only place where Sikhs are in the majority. Sikhs have emigrated to countries all over the world - especially to English-speaking and East Asian nations. In doing so they have retained, to an unusually high degree, their distinctive cultural and religious identity. Sikhs are not ubiquitious worldwide in the way that adherents of larger world religions are, and they remain primarily an ethnic religion. But they can be found in many international cities and have become an especially strong religious presence in the United Kingdom and Canada. Large National Sikh Communities Nation Number Percent India 19,000,000 2 % United Kingdom 500,000 1 Canada 225,000 0.6 USA 100,000 Malaysia 50,000 Singapore 20,000
  8. Daata - giver Bhagat - saint Soorma - soldier. What Guru Sahib is saying is that if a man is not any of these 3 things then he is either a animal or coward. You will find that even bandits are brave and so are the saints. But the saints are going up the ladder to Sachkhand whilst bandits haven't found the ladder. Sajjan Thug Neither be a robber, nor be a cheat. Be sincere to all, your dealings be neat. Sajjan means a nice person, a friend, a helper. There was a man with this name living in Tulamba (now in Pakistan). He was known as a good man in his area. He had constructed an inn for travelers to rest for the night. Whenever a traveler would forget anything in the inn, Sajjan kept it as his own. Slowly he developed the bad habit of stealing valuables of the travelers when they were sleeping at night. After some time, this bad habit made him a wicked man. He even killed people staying at his inn if he wanted to take away the travelers' belongings. The dead bodies were disposed of secretly by burying them in the compound at night. A "sajjan" because of his bad habits thus became a "thug." The people, therefore, called him "Sajjan Thug." On one of their journeys Guru Nanak Dev and Bhai Mardana stayed with Sajjan Thug for the night. In the evening Guru Nanak Dev sang a shabad while Bhai Mardana played on the rebeck. The shabad explained that if a person is bad at heart, an outward show of good acts means nothing. God knows our mind and no one can bluff Him. The true friends (sajjan) are actually the good deeds of a man. These good deeds help the man not only here in this world but also after death in the next life. By evil acts man makes his own mind dirty, because of which he not only suffers here in this world, but also his soul remains dirty even after death. Sajjan Thug had been listening to this shabad attentively. As the shabad went into his ears, his mind started "seeing" the truth. He realized he was an evil man. He was taking away the belongings of innocent travelers to whom he was supposed to provide comfort and service. Sajjan Thug went to the Guru, folded his hands and confessed before the Guru that he was Sajjan only by name. Actually, by his deeds he was a Thug. Sajjan Thug sincerely repented and promised to lead a holy life in the future. The Guru was pleased by the change of his heart and he was, therefore, very kind to Sajjan Thug. Sajjan was advised to distribute all the ill-got money to the needy and start his life afresh as an honest man. He sincerely practiced as the Guru advised him. He started helping the visitors and making their stay comfortable by whatever he could do for them. Thus, a Sajjan by name, a thug by profession, became a Sajjan by his deeds as well, after meeting Guru Nanak. Man is valued by the deeds he does. True friends are our good deeds. They remain with us even when our body dies.
  9. There are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. The Indian sub-continent including Pakistan has over 400 million Muslims. The Punjabi Muslims have alot in common with Punjabi Sikhs but in the end they are followers of Islam. Qur'an (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". Qur'an (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"
  10. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh http://www.akj.org/f...t=5732&start=15 SEVERAL singhs of naam abhyaas kamaayee, and those who attained shahid status during the turmoil of 1980's and 90's did not regard Chandi Ki Vaar as GuruKrit. *Mod Edit: Provocative comments removed*
  11. White stupidity in Canada is unbelievable. They are racist and socialist at the same time. Survey finds Christianity on the decline -- even in the South Christian faith still flourishes in the Bible Belt -- but there, like elsewhere, it's in decline. That's one of the findings of the 2008 American Religious Identification Survey released this week. The study is especially valuable because it tracks trends over time -- previous reports were done in 1990 and 2001 -- and draws on a rich volume of data (in 2008, questionnaires of 54,400 people). The big finding of the report is that Protestant Christians are in decline: The percentage of Christians in America, which declined in the 1990s from 86.2 percent to 76.7 percent, has now edged down to 76 percent. Ninety percent of the decline comes from the non-Catholic segment of the Christian population, largely from the mainline denominations, including Methodists, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Episcopalians/Anglicans, and the United Church of Christ. The number of Catholics is declining as well, but not nearly as much largely because losses in the Northeast have been balanced out by a growth of Catholics -- fueled by new immigrants -- in the South and Southwest. (Perhaps Christians have Latinos and other new immigrants to thank from keeping church values alive.)
  12. Q. During the Empire it was the British who encouraged the reverence paid to Dasam Granth Ji and they started the practice of parkash of both Granths at the same time. The following is an excerpt from a book, Sketch of the Sikhs, a singular nation in the province of Penjab,written by Sir John Malcolm in 1812. John Malcolm's work is one of the rarest firsthand information recorded by a western historian on the lifestyle, belief systems and traditions of the Sikhs in Punjab during the 18th century. Guru-mata When Gurmata or great national council, is called, (as it always is, or ought to be, when any imminent danger threatens the country, or any large expedition is to be undertaken) all the Sikh chiefs assemble at Amritsar. The assembly, which is called the Guru-mata, is convened by the Acalis; and when the chiefs meet upon this solemn occasion, it is concluded that all private animosities cease, and that every main sacrifices his personal feelings at the shrine of the general good; and, actuated by principles of pure patriotism, thinks of nothing but the interests of the religion, and commonwealth, to which he belongs. When the chiefs and principal leaders are seated, the Adi-Granth and Dasama Padshah ka Granth are placed before them. They all bend their heads before these scriptures, and exclaim, Wa! Guruji ka Khalsa! Wa! Guruji ki Fateh! A great quantity of cakes, made of wheat, butter, and sugar, are then placed before the volumes of their sacred writings, and covered with a cloth. These holy cakes, which are in commemoration of the injunction of Nanac, to eat and to give to others to eat, next receive the salutation of the assembly, who then rise, and the Acalis pray aloud, while the musicians play. The Acalis, then the prayers are finished, desire the council to be seated. They sit down, and the cakes being uncovered, are eaten of by all classes of Sikhs: those distinctions of original tribes, which are, on occasions, kept up, being on this occasion laid aside, in token of their general and complete union in one cause. The Acalis then exclaim: "Sirdars! (Chiefs) this is Guru-mata!" on which prayers are again said aloud. The chiefs, after this sit closer, and say to each other: "The sacred Granth is betwixt us, let us swear by our scripture to forget all internal disputes, and to be united." This moment of religious fervor and ardent patriotism, is taken to reconcile all animosities. They then proceed to consider the danger with whcih they are threatened, to settle the best plans for averting it, and to choose the generals who are to lead their armies against the common enemy. The first Guru-mata was assembled by Guru Govinid; and the latest was called in 1805, when the British army pursued Holkar into the Penjab.(pages. 120-123) This excerpt clearly shows the existence and acceptance of two different Granths by the Sikhs, the author specifically names "Adi-Granth and Dasama Padshah ka Granth", it's clear he's not using Dasam Patshah da Granth to mean a recession of Guru Granth Sahib created by the 10th master. Some Sikhs with rudimentary knowledge such as Dr. Jasbir Singh Mann want us to believe that the British or someone else tampered and introduced the Dasam Granth in the 19th century. This just is not true, Dr. Mann would have us believe that the British would first write spurious sketches like the above, introduce the Dasam Granth, and then fool the Sikhs by pointing to those sketches as proof of Dasam Granth’s acceptance, it just does not add up. Remember the British were not in charge of the Punjab until 1812 and the evidence of parkashe’s of the two Granths is well before this. Finally, why would the British want to write a Granth that encourages their opponents (the Sikhs) to bear arms? If anything, they would want to suppress it and thereby neuter the Sikh threat.
  13. Akaal Sahai The most powerful deceiving force on the planet called Islam based on Koran (book of revelations) and Sunna (examples of Muhammad) tries to disprove of Sikhism again. Go to http://www.scribd.co...proving-sikhism The scholars Abu Adeeba & Abu Abdur Rahman pick on the nirgun sargun part, knowing that it is also in the Vedic scriptures and twist it around to suit their book of revelations i.e the Koran. The mool mantar first verse in Guru Granth Sahib mentions very clearly who the real God is: ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ One Universal Creator God. The Name Is Truth. Creative Being Personified. No Fear. No Hatred. Image Of The Undying, Beyond Birth, Self-Existent. By Guru's Grace ~ ॥ ਜਪੁ ॥ Chant And Meditate: ਆਦਿ ਸਚੁ ਜੁਗਾਦਿ ਸਚੁ ॥ True In The Primal Beginning. True Throughout The Ages. ਹੈ ਭੀ ਸਚੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਹੋਸੀ ਭੀ ਸਚੁ ॥੧॥ True Here And Now. O Nanak, Forever And Ever True. ||1|| Conclusion is even Nirgun merges back into Akaal Murat.
  14. Which direction? this is from a another foolish Jatt posting on yahoo: http://answers.yahoo...22125320AAgSvGi Sikh 26 in US , wanna cut my hair but really confused to do it or not.? I belong to sikh religion 26 in US from last 1yr ....I'm really fed up of me looking different ...I was never in favor of keep hair's personally its just that I never got change to get rid of it before & also my parents wud not feel so well... But now I feel its affecting me both ways ...1) girls wont approach easily 2) at work I'm being treated as special or I say differently because of my looks... I wont blame others for there behaviour its normal of anyone to think twice before talking to a person who looks different but then now I feel its high time.............but now sometime I feel its too late ......26 yr old.... it would be complete change in my personality ...kind of loose my identity & getting new............. what shld I do...........inside I want to do it...just afraid of what ppl will say for first few months ......... 2 years ago Best Answer - Chosen by Voters bro am an indian..a muslim... wear a hijab...am nt ashamed of my identity ,in fact am proud of it..'ve u seen rang de basanti..?..see..u r u no matterwhat nyone thinks of u..u'r parents 've bought u up vit all deir luv n hope..can't u just do dis to appease dem...bro in case u 've nt been to india so far..tak a breakfrom u'r work ..visit here...hope u meet d rite persons... i wud advise u to wear u'r turban vit pride...man...
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