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After number of misteps-back peddling, one would think the-rookie jagmeet singh be careful, he just demoted a very senior ndp mp last week while chilling out at juno awards with his wife, at this point his caucus seems divided, he better bring unity to his caucus soon otherwise he is gone from party. FYI Federal party just need 57% disapproval/approval (i m not sure which one comes first) votes then next ndp convention is held for next leader. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-ndp-mp-criticizes-leader-singhs-punishment-of-fellow-new-democrat/?click=sf_globefb Things doesn't look good for him, i'be surprised if he last until summer let alone next federal election. Dumping him it will be bad news for ndp and even more bad news for conservatives as they no longer can splits votes in gta and have majority in next election Anyway whatever outcome be, he be good example/case study for future political aspirant sikhs what not to do, what is good and bad optics, how to prevent from self inflicted wounds. I am sorry can't blame racism for this one, media also gave him fair chance as listed in orginal post, also ndp is super far left, he is given fair chance like any Canadian would have in true canadian democracy and he is about to blow this one way.! Lets cross fingers.

Also one shouldn't undermine peaceful activism and means, just like to remind it was same peaceful means that sikh for justice in USA which revoked modi visa black listed him to coming to states before he became PM. This leaves huge question mark or black mark on modi history and in the books of historians, journalist- its a direct reference or citation provided in the journalist world which is widely available for use in journalism to push a narrative. Same peaceful activism used by cdn, uk and US sikhs which got raw so worried and they tried their master plan of isiolate sikhs from cdn politics in recent atwal fiasco.

All though it be nice to have 250 raw agents names in sikhi saroop for further case study. we should not focus too much into it as then we get into more exposing low rank raw agents get into paranoia state where we start calling each other agents and keep fighting within ourself than seeing their big game, even if those 250 raw agents names are revealed it will still play into raw hands as they would sit and watch - apne accusing each other, hurling threats, fighting among each other. Just keep it high level, dont fragment too much and keep it mindful what plays into raw hands or not- - Being paranoia, insecure about surrounding instead of just being normal - listening to gurbani, being at peace - Ignore hot headed speeches by current sikhs, avoid calling them names or fighting just know what plays into raw hands - Ignore too much rhetoric of khalistan mix it up with wider sovereignty, peaceful activism- remove violent connations/narrative made in the past for khalistan or sikh soveigeinty - Focus on human rights, jaswant singh khalra works - Focus on integration into wider soceity, be political activist. - Dont focus on internal sikh politics-divisive issues and get carried away - Focus more on gurbani, sikhi parchar.

Yet more meddling by GOI in cdn sikhs affairs, rightly criticizes by Canadian foreign ministry https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-chrystia-freeland-criticizes-indian-diplomats-for-interfering-in/?cmpid=rss&click=sf_globe

I agree veer, i mentioned chankaya in the other thread also, i won't add too much that was already added earlier but i will just mention- we really need to put aside differences - missionaries or not in real life they should be treated as sikhs rather than sikhs caught up in idealogical differences, in real life- missionaries or atheist who look like sikhs they are professionals, doctors, engineers, scientist, police, gov't services, writer, journalist have same sort of political activism of exposing human right abuses in india just like any other normal sikhs does. We should be united on that front. After jaggi illegal apprehension, many monae too are becoming receptive towards human rights abuses in GOI, they all should be supported. One of the classic example- sunny hundal who was in cross roads with orthodox sikhs in uk in the past recently was one of only few apne journalist who came to rescue working day and night holding cdn media to account and tried to change bias cdn media narrative. One of various articles he wrote recently, he called out ignorant reporter from national post. http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/a-british-journalist-called-out-a-national-post-reporter-on-twitter-over-her-coverage-of-jagmeet-singh-so-they-decided-to-talk-it-out

Also by showing media- sikhs with same wso sikh sovereignty narrative are in all political parties in canada, rss/raw via conservatives cannot sabotage or attack us. Conservatives won't let them...lol. It create a havoc in their own caucus or campaign goals.

Sikhs should play strategy mind games with these guys, be jolly with them, feed them samosas, paneer pakoras, create a bubble sikhs support you guys around election time, also endorse conservatives, make donations, get their mp board in the lawn, last minute- flip into liberals..Make no mistake, they are using as tokens, they will not think twice before they throw minority under the bus , they play by very white jew hindu nazi type agenda.

I general i don't think they can box us or isolate us into liberals and ndp only, there are quite bit of swing sikh voters who are conservatives too, one of them wso rep's own brother, also lots of sikh supporters supporting doug ford in ontario. I think thats the reason conservatives are playing super safe, haven't seen much crazier attacks on us expect for that motion which didn't even made out of rough draft..lol. they are not even taking political shots at jagmeet singh yet they have enough ammu..i think they are afraid at the moment or waiting for right time...they know they can't mess this up.... I think its quite smart we are all in political parties just like jews Current conservatives communication strategist know they can't screw this up like in last election with fear mongering tactics-cultural barbaric practices, snitch line, Islamophobia fear mongering ads, it just blew up on their face. They know many sikhs are swing voters have influence over 23 some ridings in gta and bc. They will play their game ITS all about riding influence and endorsement, if they feel they have enough riding in quebec, they will start trump like campaign-alt right.

I have came across with two hindus in canada at my previous work - one of them was my boss !!!! and other one was from north, hindu punjabi had contempt hatred of us - you can just smell it from far off!!!..They were both staunch conservatives as they hated muslims and islam influence in canada, my ex boss from south he has great respect for sikhs. He did asked me about sikh-hindu unity and how he he hated indira gandhi too..he was bjp ... i talked about common theme both traditions share like indic concepts-reincarnation, advaita, wisdom of gurbani and also bhagvad gita then he asked about khalistan in the past. I told him since there is huge push for hindu nationalism in bjp, sikh nationalism is just as justified.

Good to hear from you veer after long time, yes i've came across with their beliefs in the facebook few years ago. I have noticed few things - They would use akaal ustat bani or gyan aspect of that bani to see everything as pakhand/ reject other portions in sri guru granth sahib for example- bhagat bani among others where sargun-bhagti, naam simran importance/shabad surat and shakti in sri dasam granth aspect of sikhi are mentioned. They think its contradictory so reject them instead of reconciling various positions or aspects of gurbani see them as stages or divine aspect of vahiguru. - They don't undestand akaal ustat composition is transcendental/meditative experiential in nature than only just philosophy and its written in that spirit which talks about avastha of gyan which includes all aspects of sikhi-sargun, shakti, shabad surat yet also transcendental and non dual-advait, it should not be used to outright reject various divine aspects of sikhi-gurmat otherwise we fall into various ideological and ontological issues within gurmat where one fails to reconcile with gurbani positions held both in sri guru granth sahib and sri dasam granth sahib and fail to see GURMAT AS WHOLE. - Their version of gyan which they keep quoting from akaal ustat or gyan parbodh to reject everything as pakhand is no doubt an dry conceptual knowledge- gyan of limited confined intellect/ same sort of so called gyan missionaries supports its gyan from intellect of mind which is again just conditioning of mind or thought process rather than actual gyan-anubhav parkash gurbani and akaal ustat gurbani talks about which is gained or felt intuitively from direct meditative/naam simran experience from vahiguru/satguru- achal pure awareness- Achal Morat Anubhav Parkash Amitoj Khijai ||

I really hope in our nagar kirtans in canada they spin the whole sikh sovereignty issue dated back to 1699 and maharaja ranjit singh as wso has done in the interview. Less focus rhetoric of khalistan- more sikh sovergeinty rally mixed diversity mixed banners- khalistan, sikh 2020 referendum, sikh sovergienty confused the hell out of media-force them to educate so they CANNOT pin one narrative on us as they have done.

Anyway that was just an example here, HERE HE CALLS NANAK AS PARBHRAM VAHIGURU AGAIN GREAT PARCHAR:

You know what bugs me western canadians can't put the two together: They keep going on in the parliament- randeep singh sarai took responsibility- inviting atval to the guest list- yes thats partial blame on him and it was mistake by pmo and yet pmo his national security advisor is claiming goi is behind atval to embrass canadian diplomacy and pmo. How could this to be both events be true mr spreaker? they are contradictory they keep going on on with this even after public safety minister already said subtly - they are not mutually exclusive. They still don't get it: Here is all this play outed- this atval guy was in liberal conventions, conservatives mp-went to parliament, heck he even has a picture with famous hockey player- wayne gretzky in the past- he is perfect pawn to create media uproar in canada, bad optics all around Due to his proximity with all politic stripes in canada they used him un black listed him years ago invited him to india in pretext of we forgive you, reapproachedment, reconciliation only to use him in this grand master plan- exploited his proximity with liberal party and association with sikh mps- created perfect scenario last feb invited him to india just like nature creates perfect scenario/suitations- black clouds, wind and spontenous thunder flash rain happens on its own and just sat back and relax waited for final thunder storm- final push boom invitation request to randeep sarai-boom onus is on canada. CSIS failed this miserably, can't beleive they would let raw meddle in canadian affairs - rather throw their own pm under the bus and embrass him didnt catch it- either they are just as guilty with whole air india fiasco with parmar just as guilty or they being so called non paristan dont want to be involved in poltics to save future diplomacy with india. One thing i learned for sure, CSIS serves no political party in canada nor too concerned about national interest of their own current pmo their main goal is they dont want to de-stabilize intelligence gathering/diplomaca relations with other countries period. In their current motto- pmo changes all the time, CSIS with their counter parts remains forever. Both of these former csis former intelligence directors in media(CTV and on CBC) downplayed GOI india role in atval affair yet these article whether its written in despise of sikhs surely sheds more light than their directors ever did. In fact thats all SIKHS GOT RECONFIRMATION VALIDATION FROM EX CANADIAN INTEL AGENTS!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Amazing interview by wso-world sikh canadian body repersenting sikhs in canada to cbc, raw want us to isolate, box and confine sikhi/ whole sikh seperatism into sant jarnail singh bhindranwale -1980 era, our narrative should be as SIKH SOVEREIGNTY STARTED FROM 1699 AND MAHARAJA RANJIT SINGH ERA: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/programs/edmontonam/singh-and-sikh-unfair-focus-for-the-ndp-leader-1.4582557 Get behind this narrative, hold to this narrative firmly.!!

So dice is rolled by RAW to infiltrate cdn, uk, america sikhs diaspora - direct or indirect inflitration in -back drop sikhs looking figure, they already predicted hows sikhs will react both predictable reaction- either way they win and advance their goals: Current issue among sikhs in west- missionaries and sri dsasam granth RAW in the backdrop watches influences directly or indirectly-, influences both ultra hot headed pro and ultra hot headed anti stance on dasam granth/missionaries- watch sikhs tearing each other part, if there is message of unity- it creates insecurity, fear, hyper, paranoia to keep the fire going. I've never seen hindus worked up so fast over debate over their various school of thoughts, over scriptures to the point they are fighting among themselves, there are six school of thoughts or more in hinduism all polar opposite of each other- vaishanivsm, shavaism, advait etc in their scriptures all they reject each other etc etc, yet in their circle no one is fighting yet politically they strong as iron- when it comes to HINDU NATIONALISM-Their sants- ravi shankar, sadhguru all supports hindu unity an front Example of ranjit singh dhandriwanle. Raw saw this guy prominence -see it as threat- influence his thoughts sant got played big time, created the divide in community, then flare hot headed sikhs to create issues and back drop assassinate attempt againt him- boom their goal is accomplished, huge divide in sikhs abroad. CIA ASSESSMENT ON SIKHS LIVING ABROAD: CSIS ASSESSMENT ON SIKHS IN CANADA Anyway there are many examples, i am more geared towards solutions - Worst thing sikh could react is with fear, paranoia calling each other agents anti panthic , fighting violently against each other. Do polar opposite see each other with non divisive eyes, dialogue, debate, constructive vichar - and leave it that. - RAW want cdn sikhs to relive trauma and divisiveness of 1980s again in current political climate get worked up in whichever way possible- they would love angry anti india slogans by sikhs in canada do pollar opposite hold the line of human rights bring other christianity minorities too, more holligans burning indian flags they will love this kinda stuff it will play good in media, more khalistan banners in nagar kirtan, divisiness, do pollar opposite - every day pay respect to our shaheeds as we normally do - keep on moving getting inspired by our role models in canada such as harjit singh sajjan- defense minister- apply for gov't jobs, learn french, apply police, rcmp, miltary jobs, media put past sikh seperatism in the back of head but dont put it on altar it proves nothing but just play more into raw hands. Andrew cohne- very well known journalist already pushing narrative- questioning sikh loyalty in canada by providing example of sikh body guards killing indira gandhi- casting doubt- they are religious zealouts, prove them wrong- apply apply apply for high gov't positions, security, poilice rcmp, military jobs. - Pay no attention to rhetoric emotional speeches get worked up, have sympathy but ignore ignore and ignore emotional violent rheotoric type of response - Have more interfaith sessions, push more yoga, world peace, get 3ho all white turbans push for mindfulness, peace etc etc in ottawa parliament-yoga international day- get 3ho to inflitrate on so called hindu concept which is not theirs anyway as its not their to begin with, get behind jewish genocide, explain sikh genocide via lenses of other civilizations, basically get behind with dastar anything to do with peace, mindfulness yoga movement - put hindu bhramins in canada out of business. Yogi amandeep singh udasi nirmala already doing amazing job. - tune down sikh internal issues activism protesting infront of gurdwara, commitee endorsement, be more involved wider canadian activism - don't isolate ourselves, engage in wider canadian soceity, Raw wants to isolate us from cdn diaspora politicsm cabinet positions, policy decision makers as its huge threat and cdn diaspora to some other, do polar opposite. Once we are able to infuse ourselves in media , politics like jews then we can influence not just say khalistan zindabad but further play proxy wars in terms of trade deals. Indians are already pissed trade deal with canada is only 1 billion dollar despite of huge indian immigrant people thats why they raised this ujjal dosanj tattu to isiolate us from all canadian political party, cdn cabinet positions, politics from canadian national fabric. Raw via media will keep pushing the narrative- get rid of these sikhs , our success trade deals - sky is limit already, more canadian jobs, it will very well play into conservative election promise RAW is trying to get sikhs out of canada fabric into over represented, defranchise thugs violent isiolate, do pollar opposite- infuse further ourselves and do seva into all Canadian veins, political parties, all self righteous left wing, liberal canadian movements- whether its pipeline, feminism, peta-vegan, environmentalist, first nation issues, jobs , polarized canadian debates.

Based on the recommend by BHforce veer, i am opening new thread on its own as i don't want to go off-topic from jagmeet singh thread, please discuss your recommendation and brainstorming ideas Here is an JAW DROPPING ARTICLES REVEALS SO MUCH from intelligence officers article, i will post my thoughts based on my limited buddhi below: http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/jaspal-atwal-1.4563222 Opinion Why wasn't Jaspal Atwal on Canada's no-fly list?: Neil Macdonald It is unlikely that any effort was made to vet Atwal's name with CSIS By Neil Macdonald, CBC News Posted: Mar 06, 2018 4:00 AM ET Last Updated: Mar 06, 2018 4:00 AM ET Justin Trudeau's Minister of Infrastructure and Communities Amarjeet Sohi pictured with Jaspal Atwal in Mumbai Feb. 20. (Name withheld by request) 1557 shares Facebook Twitter Reddit Google Share Email About The Author Neil Macdonald Opinion Columnist Neil Macdonald is an opinion columnist for CBC News, based in Ottawa. Prior to that he was the CBC's Washington correspondent for 12 years, and before that he spent five years reporting from the Middle East. He also had a previous career in newspapers, and speaks English and French fluently, and some Arabic. More by Neil Macdonald Video by Neil Macdonald Related Stories Conservatives fail in bid to bring national security adviser to testify on Atwal affair Trudeau tries to distance himself from would-be political assassin Jaspal Atwal It's the Atwal effect — and nobody's immune Never mind the matter of why the failed assassin Jaspal Atwal would be invited to any sort of diplomatic reception, let alone one starring Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his wife. Political parties can be venal and willfully blind to ugly realities in pursuit of votes, and that should be no surprise. The better question is this: how in heaven's name was that man allowed to set foot on a passenger aircraft, in an age of no-fly lists so strict that babies with names similar to violent extremists are denied boarding? The answer is that Jaspal Atwal is not on the list, and almost certainly never was, despite the fact that by any of the definitions law enforcement uses to define a terrorist, Jaspal Atwal is a terrorist. And not an aspirational one, either, like some of the clumsy fools who have been reeled in over the years by overweening government stings. No, Jaspal Atwal belonged to a cohort of Sikh extremists who, from their base in Canada, fought a violent war against the government of India in the '80s. Their hatred may very well have been justified – the Indian government was as ruthlessly vicious as they were. Air India bombing But the facts are not arguable: Atwal's fellow travellers bombed a jumbo jet, killing 329 innocent souls, over the North Atlantic in 1985. And they narrowly failed to bring down a second airliner, which instead exploded on the tarmac at Tokyo's main airport, killing two baggage handlers. Atwal himself tried his very best a year later to murder a high official of the Indian government on Canadian soil. He failed only because his target, Malkiat Singh Sidhu, managed to feign death, despite the two bullets Atwal and his confederates had already fired into his body. (Five years later, other Sikh extremists finished the job for Atwal, murdering Sidhu near his home in Moga). In any case, in their day, Atwal and his ideological colleagues were in the same league as, and in fact even more deadly than other far more famous groups: the Baader-Meinhof gang, the Shining Path, Black September, the IRA, the Red Army Faction. Certainly, they were a far more lethal threat than the disturbed homeless man who shot a reserve soldier in the name of Allah in Ottawa nearly four years ago, and was subsequently shot dead himself in the Parliament buildings, providing hawks with justification for a controversial new anti-terrorist law. Sikh extremists were a closed, fanatical bunch, and virtually impossible to penetrate, as Canada's nascent intelligence service learned. They were CSIS's first and greatest failure; Canada's international shame, a former CSIS chieftain called them. And yet there was Atwal, posing with a beaming Sophie Grégoire Trudeau, at a Canadian diplomatic reception in India last month, having boarded a plane and flown to India a few days earlier. Sophie Trudeau and Jaspal Atwal pictured at a film industry influencers event with Indian film stars in Mumbai Feb. 20. (Name withheld by request) The explanation for the invitation is pretty obvious: Atwal, since his release from prison decades ago, has remained active in Sikh politics, and became prominent in the apparatus of the Liberal Party of Canada, which depends heavily on the Sikh vote. Atwal was in fact invited to the reception by a Sikh Liberal MP, and he has been posing for photos with Liberals, federal and provincial, for years. It is unlikely that any effort was made to vet Atwal's name with CSIS. His name is in the CSIS system, and would have been instantly flagged. But the explanation for his ability to get on a flight to India is far more interesting. In search of that answer, I spoke recently to four former Canadian intelligence officers from the era of the Sikh wars. All, as you'd expect, were disgusted at the photo of Atwal in India. Three of them once had roles overseeing Canada's no-fly list. The list, they say, is exceedingly short, at least compared to the American list. It is curated by Transport Canada, with input from CSIS and the RCMP, and it remains secret. In order to be placed on it, said one ex-spy, authorities have to make the case to a multi-departmental committee that the individual poses a threat to aviation — a bar one of the agents who participated in the committee meetings felt was far too high. Often, he said, CSIS would come away frustrated in its efforts to have an individual placed on the list. And especially since 9/11, the focus of the list, and of our intelligence agencies, has been just about exclusively on Islamic jihadists. Its greatest recent growth has been fed by names of Canadians who have flown off to fight in Syria. Canada's spies are bound tightly to their American counterparts, and respond to American priorities, and, says one of the ex-agents I spoke to, the Americans never really cared about Sikh extremists. As far as they were concerned, the Sikhs were just killing each other, which was fine with them. (It should be noted here that of the 329 killed in the Air India bombing, the vast majority carried Canadian passports. None was an American citizen). All four of the former intelligence officers I spoke with reckoned that Atwal cannot possibly be on the American no-fly list either, because Canadian carriers are extremely skittish about boarding anyone on that list, even on a flight not flying into American airspace. OPINION: Sikh activism in Canada is not the Khalistani extremism of decades past Man convicted of attempted murder says he bowed out of event in India to save Trudeau embarrassment Let's go beyond Atwal, though. Here is another excellent question: What about Inderjit Singh Reyat, who served time in prison for actually building the bomb that brought down Air India Flight 182 in 1985, and who is now free on parole? Is he on our no-fly list? Or Ajaib Singh Bagri? Or Ripudaman Singh Malik? Both those men were early, prominent members of Babbar Khalsa, the group that hatched the airliner bombings, and while they were acquitted in court of conspiracy and murder, any ISIS- or al-Qaeda-style jihadi with their credentials would likely never fly again. Are they on the Canadian list? It is worth considering that Sikh extremist groups – Babbar Khalsa, or the International Sikh Youth Federation, to which Atwal belonged – have more in common with the IRA, or the FLQ in Quebec, than with, say, ISIS. Like the IRA, the Sikh groups are not regarded as terrorists, and indeed warmly regarded, in certain sectors of their diasporas. The IRA enjoyed considerable fundraising and popularity in cities like Boston and Montreal back in the days when it was carrying out bombings of British targets, and the portrait of Talwinder Singh Parmar, the founder of Babbar Khalsa and mastermind of the Air India bombing, still hangs in Sikh religious centres in British Columbia. Paul Rose, the leader of the FLQ cell that kidnapped and strangled Quebec cabinet minister Pierre Laporte in 1970, entered politics after his release from prison and was even a nominated candidate for the New Democratic Party of Quebec in 1992. Quebecers took a much more sympathetic view of him than English Canadians. Atwal is sort of a Sikh version of Paul Rose. But even if he evaded placement on the no-fly list, and wangled an invitation to a prime ministerial event, there is one more puzzling question about his visit to India: Why would the Indian government have let him in? The Indians despise Sikh separatists, and agents of the RAW, India's intelligence agency, have been caught repeatedly operating against Sikhs on Canadian soil (If you can't deal with these bastards, we will, RAW reportedly once told CSIS). All of the ex-agents I spoke to had the same theory: Atwal, they assume, had elected to cooperate with Indian intelligence. That, and a decision by the current Indian government to pursue some sort of rapprochement with the Sikh diaspora – the Khalistani separatist movement in Canada is now all but moribund – would explain his ease in obtaining an Indian visa. Lucky fellow, our Mr. Atwal. Time has passed, and memories have faded. Perhaps the men currently sitting in cages in Guantanamo Bay have some hope after all. But perhaps, just out of an abundance of caution, it would be better to keep them off airplanes.

He did a good job explaining here from today's interview at the parliament hill: http://www.cpac.ca/en/programs/headline-politics/episodes/60965825

I will pm you his phone number, i have messenger disabled here, but can you please send me message here and i will reply you back http://www.sikhawareness.com/profile/12676-sarabatam/

Everyone is wondering the same thing, recently conservatives will put a motion to summon cdn pm national security advisor to breif, hope csis intelligence gathering report on him and raw using this guy as pawn/ sabotaging CANADIAN PM trip to comes out.!! For Canadian pm - justin trudeau and his actual secretary gerald butts - its a catch 22 suitation, he wants the whole jaspal controversy goes away asap, so its doesn't become media witch haunt onto election issue exploited by conservatives , he is been advised by CSIS - National security advisor about atwal past history dealing with RAW there. But the issue PMO he cannot say anything directly as it will screw diplomacy with india and very well can play in next federal election where indians via conservative cdn media and conservatives- will then take leverage kite a potential 28 billion dollar deal - thousands of jobs creation in canada election promise. Public safety minister weeks ago, they have rejected conservatives motion for public hearing of his national security advisor but will allow the breifing to only mps as its highly confendial csis material on this guy and raw only to cdn mps in house of common prior to that which they have to take oath -they cannot leak to the media and to public. Look around sensitivity around this issue, i am assuming its pretty high detailed intelligence report on raw sabotaging cdn sikhs supporting cdn political parties.

Again the point i am stressing its ok for sikh human right activist to protest against rajoana death penalty or his over spending in jail but to have federal leader of canada who have in the past raised this issue of rajoana death penalty with india knowing fully rajoana history and bombing of cm which also killed 13 other people it open itself to all kind of self inflicted wounds-bad pr optics, all kind of criticism, all kind of narratives in journalist world.

Singhs is known for sikh activism which is good but also his past activism of supporting troubling rajoana case-interjecting in indian constitution of death penalty all together is bad optics all around, Lets see how this will get interperted in cdn media- a) supporting rajaona rights of convicted bomber of punjab cm - bad optics, this will play out like in media - someone equivalent to supporting rights of someone potentially- killing cdn province premier regardless of cm history or not. b) interjecting too much into indian constitution where death penalty is legitimate, again bad optics- another country federal leader meddling with indian constitutions. Regarding b) He already said recently what india or indians do in india its none of his business so thats strong statement. Look i've been saying all long take questionable people poster off from gurdwara in the past, i sounded like broken record. I've been saying for ten years on here its wrong based on ruling of canadian judical system and air india enquiry- FYI cost of both were $100 million spent, its bad pr disaster, bad optics, massive loop hole to goi to exploit - someday it will come back and bite us in the backside and it did, fast fwd to today before many gurdwara had this poster but now two of them out of 100 have it and recent news i've learned in nagar kirtan supported by all gurdwaras in canada it much well thought out, less posters definitely wont include parmar which nagar kirtan stopped doing that 10 years ago. Awesome idea, thats how it needs to be played. However, i think this motion on its own will pass without any issue in cdn parliament as indian current home minister himself called it sikh genocide and he on record saying that. There are plenty of leverage there and well thought out educated talking points to those oppose it typical left wing socialist agenda, very pro union and workers, speak to normal , middle class people, pro environmentalist,pro free universal pharma care AND BIG ONE- electoral reform, lot of it will depend on ontario provincial election there are polls showing ndp is gaining wind, if they win provincially this june in ontario like they have done in bc and alberta, this will set very good pleasant tone for federal ndp leader-jagmeet singh for next year federal election.

Sikhs should not take this threat lightly, they should make this one of election issues put in the laps of conservatives to address it (if they wish to win sikh votes) by reassuring canadians and canadian sikhs over and over that they won't violating the canadian sikhs right by allowing alien foreign entity - India intelligence to espionage sabotage / espionage cdn sikhs here. The problem is we been too polite with our political parties, especially conservatives. This needs to be addressed by both conservatives and liberals. Since liberals have shown they are protecting canadian right such as omar khadr conservatives have done more opposite they are projecting themselves pro tough on everything, they will not think twice throwing sikhs under the bus. Conservatives now are more influenced by trump than stephan harper. Stephen harper where credit its due was much better conserative pm, he told GOI in india, we beleive in freedom of expression and told them we beleive in protecting canadian rights when sikh separatism was raised.

This article is good news and have some recommendation, i think fault all lies squarely jagmeet singh ndp communication strategist as well: https://www.hilltimes.com/2018/03/21/jagmeet-singh/138179

Good points raised, lets look at the root- we need to read and understand psychology of ego - human conditioning- always looking for sense of security in its little box it lives, if there is sense of insecurity or if it feels threatened on any levels- it will get behind self righteous cause- it will act out of fear do all things of crazy things including violence with all kinds of justification. Power of now and new earth books by echkart tolle are extremely good read it talks about violence by ego- deconstructs and rips ego conditioning into pieces, ego is main culprit which is cause of violence, killing of innocents in wars and human suffering in the world. People talk about cocaine rush and forbidding use of drugs which is quite right, but esoteric speaking many mystics, saints have claimed highly mobilized ego on power trip is biggest cocaine rush, its powerful than winning billion dollar lottery, power-ego trips and abuse over others trumps everything, will try justify anything under the sun. Stay under care of gurbani message, following through teaching, one can't go wrong as gurbani tranquilizes it then destroy its in the gyan of gurbani.

If you want to hold that position fine but as as NDP-Federal party leader- he has to agree with Canadian judicial system-supreme court ruling which acquitted bagri and malik but in same breath hold parmar responsible as master mind and impartial inquiry did the same. Otherwise he undermines it, he looks too biased, not impartial, not fit for his job, laughing stock infront of canadians bad political optics all around, politics is about optics and perception, by acting dumb in the first interview he reconfirmed lot of people bias and fears. He is federal party leader first. And last week he acccepted the canadian judical system-supreme court ruling and inquiry findings unequivocally which he should have done in oct instead of falling into political trap of ujjal dosanjh.