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  1. source: http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/john-ivison-on-trudeaus-india-trip-and-the-atwal-affair-national-security-adviser-daniel-jean-had-a-line-and-stuck-to-it This article shows daniel jean breifing today was water down version(to save face diplomacy with) than ACTUAL REAL briefing he gave John Ivision back in feb: John Ivison: On Trudeau's India trip and the Atwal affair, Daniel Jean had a line and stuck to it Jean revealed fewer details on the events surrounding the ill-fated trip than he did at the time to journalists (including this one) Daniel Jean, national security adviser to the prime minister, prepares to appear at a Commons national security committee on Parliament Hill in Ottawa on Monday, April 16, 2018.Justin Tan/THE CANADIAN PRESS John Ivison April 16, 2018 7:45 PM EDT Filed under Canadian Politics Comment Facebook Twitter Reddit Email More There can be no doubt that Canada’s national security adviser was telling the truth, and nothing but the truth, when he appeared before a parliamentary committee on Monday, in an attempt to clear up the Jaspal Atwal affair. But Daniel Jean was explicit that he could not tell MPs the whole truth, because much of it remains classified. The upshot was that Jean revealed fewer details on the events surrounding Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s trip to India than he did at the time to journalists (including this one). Jean said he elected to give certain journalists a background briefing in February on convicted attempted-murderer Atwal’s appearance at a reception in Mumbai to counter a “false narrative.” Atwal posed for a photo with Sophie Gregoire Trudeau in Mumbai and was invited to another event at Canada’s embassy in New Delhi by Liberal MP Randeep Sarai. An article in the Vancouver Sun about Atwal’s presence at the event asked how someone with his criminal and Sikh separatist past could be cleared to attend official functions in India. Jean said this is what prompted him to call a handful of journalists in Ottawa the next day to offer an alternative to what he suggested was “co-ordinated misinformation” – that the RCMP, CSIS and the Canadian High Commission were aware of Atwal’s invitations to the events but did not act to rescind them. Jaspal Atwal arrives to read a statement to reporters in Vancouver in March. Ben Nelms for National Post “I never raised a conspiracy theory,” he said. “What I said is that there was co-ordinated efforts to try to misinform and I said these were either private people – it was definitely not the government of India, and if it was people from India, they were acting in a rogue way.” Atwal was a one-time member of the International Sikh Youth Federation – now listed as a terrorist entity by Ottawa – who was convicted in 1987 of trying to kill a Punjab cabinet minister vacationing in B.C. However, he is no longer considered a terrorist threat by Canada or India. The issue for the security services was more that Atwal’s presence was an embarrassment. “It was a faux pas. It should not have happened,” Jean told the committee. He offered a much less fulsome account than the one he gave me on February 22nd, when he alleged Atwal’s presence in India “was not an accident”. He said Atwal had developed links with the Indian government, as his views on Sikh separatism had evolved. “They no longer see him as the enemy,” Jean said at the time, pointing out he had been taken off a travel blacklist, allowing him to visit India twice in 2017. Jean said Atwal met with Indian diplomats from the consulate in Vancouver. Atwal’s own social media account shows he visited the Indian External Affairs department in New Delhi last year. The national security adviser suggested it might be convenient for some in the Indian government to embarrass the visiting Canadian prime minister over the perception that he is soft on Sikh separatism. When I asked which part of the Indian government might be so motivated, he said: “The intelligence service.” Prime Minister Justin Trudeau visits the Jama Masjid Mosque in New Delhi on Feb. 22, 2018.Sean Kilpatrick/CP In subsequent interviews, he asked a number of rhetorical questions: Who knew Atwal was in India? Who took the pictures of Atwal with the prime minister’s wife? And who sent them to Canadian media? Jean’s intervention – unprecedented for a national security adviser, in my experience – led to the opposition parties accusing the Liberal government of peddling conspiracy theories that have adversely impacted Canada-India relations. The Indian government subsequently issued a statement denying any involvement – “including by the security agencies” – in the Atwal affair. But rather than pressing Jean for evidence of activity in Canada by rogue Indian operatives, the opposition members of the public safety committee were more intent on blaming the Prime Minister’s Office for wheeling out the national security adviser to engage in damage limitation. Consequently, they emerged from committee none the wiser, which was predictable, but also no better informed, which was not. It’s hard to know what to make of Jean’s testimony. It seems that he may have said too much in late February, although he denies revealing classified information. National security adviser Daniel Jean points to ‘coordinated misinformation’ in Jaspal Atwal affair Andrew Coyne: Serious questions remain around Atwal affair despite partisan silliness Still, his actions have attracted criticism within the intelligence community. Phil Gurski, a former strategic analyst at CSIS who now runs Borealis Threat and Risk Consulting, said on his blog that Jean did what everyone in intelligence knows is wrong: “disclose sensitive information to those not entitled to receive it.” Jean’s questions about how the pictures of the prime minister’s wife and Atwal surfaced are valid. Atwal blamed “enemies” for circulating the photos obtained by the Vancouver Sun, in the article on February 22. But Jean’s defence of CSIS, the RCMP and the High Commission in India can’t deflect from the fact a simple Google search of the names on the invitation list to the Indian events would have revealed. The vetting process was clearly slapdash. But the national security adviser had a line and he was sticking to it. From the government’s point of view, any reminder about the ill-fated passage to India is a trip down misery lane. That Jean did not make things worse will be regarded as something of a triumph. jivison@postmedia.com Twitter.com/IvisonJ
  2. What these journalist don't understand. Unlike professional CSIS, RAW is not - Non partisan organization, RAW is underworld outlaw banana republic criminals/mobs/ spy organization which controls media narrative, uses all political parties, all political parties in india uses them.
  3. Some really good questions from this: In his testimony, Jean confirmed publicly for the first time that it was he who provided a background briefing on the matter to journalists, including those at Global News, and told MPs he had made the decision to speak with reporters after seeing what he described as “misinformation” published by CBC News and the Vancouver Sun. 1. Who was terry melswki CBC source and vancouver sun source? Let me guess- self loathing Ujjal Dosanjh and GOI cronies!!! What a gong show.
  4. Daniel Jean set the record straight today at the hearing -quite interesting and very telling- Rampant ‘misinformation’ on Jaspal Atwal affair sparked decision to brief reporters: Daniel Jean https://globalnews.ca/news/4147124/daniel-jean-jaspal-atwal-affair/
  5. source: https://www.searchgurbani.com/dasam-granth/shabad/8032/line/21 From Sri Dasam Guru Granth: ਜਿਮੀ ਜਮਾਨ ਕੇ ਬਿਖੈ ਸਮਸਤ ਏਕ ਜੋਤਿ ਹੈ ॥ Jimee Jamaan Ke Bikhi Samasata Eeka Joti Hai ॥ Within all the earth and sky, there is only one Light. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੬/੧ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਘਾਟ ਹੈ ਨ ਬਾਢ ਹੈ ਨ ਘਾਟ ਬਾਢ ਹੋਤ ਹੈ ॥ Na Ghaatta Hai Na Baadha Hai Na Ghaatta Baadha Hota Hai ॥ Which neither decreases nor increases in any being, It never decreases or increases. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੬/੨ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਹਾਨ ਹੈ ਨ ਬਾਨ ਹੈ ਸਮਾਨ ਰੂਪ ਜਾਨੀਐ ॥ Na Haan Hai Na Baan Hai Samaan Roop Jaaneeaai ॥ It is without decadence and without habit, it is known to have the same form. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੬/੩ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਮਕੀਨ ਅਉ ਮਕਾਨਿ ਅਪ੍ਰਮਾਨ ਤੇਜ ਮਾਨੀਐ ॥੬॥੧੬੬॥ Makeena Aau Makaani Aparmaan Teja Maaneeaai ॥6॥166॥ In all houses and places its unlimited brilliance is acknowledged. 6.166. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੬/(੪) - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਦੇਹ ਹੈ ਨ ਗੇਹ ਹੈ ਨ ਜਾਤਿ ਹੈ ਨ ਪਾਤਿ ਹੈ ॥ Na Deha Hai Na Geha Hai Na Jaati Hai Na Paati Hai ॥ He hath no body, no home, no caste and no lineage. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੭/੧ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਮੰਤ੍ਰਿ ਹੈ ਨ ਮਿਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਤਾਤ ਹੈ ਨ ਮਾਤ ਹੈ ॥ Na Maantri Hai Na Mitar Hai Na Taata Hai Na Maata Hai ॥ He hath no minister, no friend, no father and no mother. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੭/੨ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਅੰਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਸੰਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਸਾਥ ਹੈ ॥ Na Aanga Hai Na Raanga Hai Na Saanga Hai Na Saatha Hai ॥ He hath no limb, no colour, and hath no affection for a companion. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੭/੩ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਦੋਖ ਹੈ ਨ ਦਾਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਦ੍ਵੈਖ ਹੈ ਨ ਦੇਹ ਹੈ ॥੭॥੧੬੭॥ Na Dokh Hai Na Daaga Hai Na Davaikh Hai Na Deha Hai ॥7॥167॥ He hath no blemish, no stain, no malice and no body.7.167. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੭/(੪) - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਹੈ ਨ ਸ੍ਯਾਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਰਾਉ ਹੈ ਨ ਰੰਕ ਹੈ ॥ Na Siaangha Hai Na Saiaara Hai Na Raau Hai Na Raanka Hai ॥ He is neither a lion, nor a jackal, nor a king nor a poor. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੮/੧ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਮਾਨ ਹੈ ਨ ਮੌਤ ਹੈ ਨ ਸਾਕ ਹੈ ਨ ਸੰਕ ਹੈ ॥ Na Maan Hai Na Mouta Hai Na Saaka Hai Na Saanka Hai ॥ He egoless, deathless, kinless and doubtless. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੮/੨ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਜਛ ਹੈ ਨ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਹੈ ਨ ਨਰੁ ਹੈ ਨ ਨਾਰਿ ਹੈ ॥ Na Jachha Hai Na Gaandharba Hai Na Naru Hai Na Naari Hai ॥ He is neither a Yaksha, nor a Gandharva, nor a man nor a woman. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੮/੩ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਚੋਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਸਾਹ ਹੈ ਨ ਸਾਹ ਕੋ ਕੁਮਾਰ ਹੈ ॥੮॥੧੬੮॥ Na Chora Hai Na Saaha Hai Na Saaha Ko Kumaara Hai ॥8॥168॥ He is neither a thief, nor a moneylender nor a prince.8.168. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੮/(੪) - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਨੇਹ ਹੈ ਨ ਗੇਹ ਹੈ ਨ ਦੇਹ ਕੋ ਬਨਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ Na Neha Hai Na Geha Hai Na Deha Ko Banaau Hai ॥ He is without attachment, without home and without the formation of the body. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੯/੧ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਛਲ ਹੈ ਨ ਛਿਦ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਛਲ ਕੋ ਮਿਲਾਉ ਹੈ ॥ Na Chhala Hai Na Chhidar Hai Na Chhala Ko Milaau Hai ॥ He is without deceit, without blemish and without the blend of deceit. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੯/੨ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਨ ਜੰਤ੍ਰ ਕੋ ਸਰੂਪ ਹੈ ॥ Na Taantar Hai Na Maantar Hai Na Jaantar Ko Saroop Hai ॥ He is neither Tantra , nor a mantra nor the form of Yantra. ਅਕਾਲ ਉਸਤਤਿ - ੧੬੯/੩ - ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਨ ਰਾਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਰੰਗ ਹੈ ਨ ਰੇਖ ਹੈ ਨ ਰੂਪ ਹੈ ॥੯॥੧੬੯॥ Na Raaga Hai Na Raanga Hai Na Rekh Hai Na Roop Hai ॥9॥169॥ He is without affection, without colour, without form and without lineage. 9.169.
  6. Based on my understanding 1. Mind becomes jot saroop(IkOngkar-One non dual pure aware being) as Guru maharaj says- Man tu jot saroop hai apna mool painchain, absolute truth is perceived and expressed clearly via pure cognition driven by divine will than ego personal will. 2. Jot saroop is awaken universal unified pure awareness/consciousness - there is no individuality there nor there is separate mind, mind becomes unman(reference in gurbani) or mind becomes sanatan (ancient) see reference in gurbani. 3. Jot saroop can perceive and travel to various states of existence but not confined by them. 4. After merging, i am assuming you are talking about bhramgyan, after bhramgyan you realize the backdrop substratum truth (which is primal truth present all along - aad such jugad sach hai bhi sach nanak hosi bhi sach) you are that there is no separate somebody, other, there is only all pervading Vahiguru -one(Ekangkar/IkONGKAR) one without second. Eko Eek Ek Har Aap Poran Poor Rahio Prabh Baiap ||
  7. Totally agreed, if one hasn't seen the movie how can they judge it before even seeing it. I mean there are already calls to behead the director by crazy hot right winger sikhs in india on facebook. Absolutely grotesque. It goes out to show how emotional indian /feeble/insecure/paranoid/hot headed communal communities are. This is same underlining fear and emotions - bigger players tap into and watch sikhs ripping each other apart or big players create situation such as violent riots to kill more sikhs in name of subduing violent protest. History is witness, most damage is done to sikhs by sikhs inadvertently/unconsciously themselves as they say only iron can cut another iron. Lets just say even hypothetically even if director of this movie is bjp rss influenced, ignoring or making similar right movie in future to counter this movie with another similar movie with all historical/esoteric events and messages would be only solution. Heck, its open field, none one is stopping anyone to remake Nanak Shah Fakir-real, remake or important chapter- part 2 those who are upset. Just ignore the movie collectively if you feel so offended, it will fall into abyss. Ego thrives on resistance, controversy sells. I plan to watch torrent copy of it when it comes out as i don't want to support the director financially yet only after watching it and if i see it and deem good i will buy dvd or watch in theater.
  8. Couple of points- - SGPC approved this movie before, did through analysis provided recommendation which were followed thoroughly has a approval from sgpc both old committee and new committee at current, signed by all scholars in SGPC - If some people find it offended, don't watch it or ignore it but if you think by banning or doing protest, blocking hwy and other tactics is way to go, its counter-intuitive this will increase curiosity in people, its actually more advertisement of the movie, remember - controversy sells!! Just like if you strictly enforced everything is forbidden, make things trivial or controversial for kids outlaws on kids, kids will revolt eventually in their life, will explore whatever is banned for sake of curiosity, rebel back whether watchin tv, fashion, cell phones. Look at the lives and scandals of amish life style, orthodox jews, church pastors -Provide detailed analysis with strong rebuttal , why one shouldn't watch this movie and leave it up to the readers - I do have a point i want to make. I watched movie- badla made on sant jarnail singh bhindranwale, there is a scene of sant jarnail singh bhindranwale coming on to maharaj darbar, they showed huge parkash aura on sant ji in maharaj darbar where aura parkash on sri guru granth sahib was virtually missing in contrast with sant ji parkash in same scene. Same people who endorsed badla movie have a problem with nanak shah fakir as well. This is good video from director of Nanak shah fakir, lots of great points, decide it for yourself:
  9. Joining Canadian Reserves

    Joining army or police force is very good career path for sikhs both according to our past history and our martial tradition and many practical reasons and benefits which is compatible with sikh way of life. We should all encourage it. Many Sikh mahapursh in the past to name few prominent ones in the past- sant karam singh hoti mardan, sant aya singh hoti mardan, sant attar singh reru sahib, sant jvala singh ji etc also have joined army for couple of very good practical and spiritual reasons- a) serve the country they live in - noble and pious b) military requires great discipline which is compatible with sikh discipline for being timely, getting up early, be fully active and martial c) miltary and or on being on police force-various task/mission takes one to edge / lives on the edge where one mind stops enforces one to be in the present moment only - one only functions through fearless/ great inner wisdom- bibek and inner highly intuitive awareness - gur-chaitan which is also very compatible with meditations/abhyaas within sikhi d) many military traditions allows diversity when it comes to individual war cry traditions such as moari war cry for example and ours being war roars from gurbani- sri guru granth sahib ji, sri dasam guru granth sahib and Gurbani abhyaas from it while training or completing a mission or task.
  10. There might be few slight variations in puratan saroop of sri guru granth sahib/aad guru granth sahib usually at the very end but the main point remains essence message is not lost, here is one out of many example- for example- IkOngkar Satgurparsad: IkOngkar-One non dual being Satgurpursad-which is eternal awareness bliss realized by satgurparsad - grace of true guru (inner guru-wisdom-awareness and outer-ishat guru- sri guru granth sahib) IS mentioned 523 times in sri guru granth sahib, I think this can be considered common theme/essence message from sri guru granth sahib ji so everyone can agree on, and deeply contemplate on it go through stages- of deep listening-sarvan of gurbani essence truth, following /acknowledging (manan), applying-deeply abiding( nidhashan) in gurbani essence.
  11. He reversed the decision of demoting his mp early this week, now he is bit in calm waters with his caucus and has their support along with senior members. Here are some detailed good assessment/advise in article by one of very senior global journalist - john ibbiston-article endorsed by andrew cohe-who is also very senior journalist in journalist world. FYI they are both conservatives they may have underlining vested interest to get jagmeet singh up to speed to split ndp/liberal votes. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-jagmeet-singh-may-have-stumbled-but-dont-count-him-out-just-yet/?cmpid=rss&click=sf_globe
  12. I mean by no means language on this thread is no where near vile as this one below but it seems to be we humans are all affected by same underlining fears, insecurity, hatred and jealously- Us VS them mentality, who are the victims in both cases- women who have decided to marry person they love. One is journalist below from hindu back ground supporting pro sikh cause narrative one of few besides sunny hundal in media while media is ripping us apart second above politician-preet kaur gill again helping us again raising sikh human right issue /jaggi case in uk parliament. And not long ago, we went on over drive jagmeet singh and his choice of marriage have various amount of threads talking about their personal lives. Lets talk about their good work , commend them for it than being that insecure douche bag below:
  13. Bhai Gurbaksh Singh RIP

    Whats the issue, off course circumstances surrounding bhai gurbakash singh suicide turned shaheedi is unfortunate. It should have been avoided, panth failed bhai gurbakash singh collectively having him to go such brink. In fact, based on avtar singh posted on facebook- he was absolutely bullied, haunted, mocked by so called sikhs there months over months to have him go such a brink. He is definitely an shaheed despite of his mental anguish and horrible things he went through mentally. Just to clarify re shahedi label- First of all, in my post i wasn't encouraging anyone taking their own lives or committing suicide -be shaheed Off course i consider someones giving up their live-leading arm resistance/defending the dharam/protecting innocent as shaheed as well, including consider singhs as shahids in the past who have taken cyanide and committed suicide aovid being captured or tortured by GOI , along with the case above. I have held the same position in the past, remember the discussion of buddhist monk being shahid sitting in meditation while being self immolated.?. I consider that is shahedi as well. Anyway, going back to that post was my way of showing respect to bhai gurbaksh singh ji by calling him shaheed.
  14. Hopefully average joe cdn voter get it now, below screenshot from power and politics, read between the lines slowly and let them sink below for a moment. Unbelievable gong show from opposition dragging it.