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  1. If they did lie to avoid legal ramifications I agree it is shameful behaviour. If you claim to be Sikh and were part of the protest then have the strength of character and conviction to stand by your views and beliefs. Did Singh's in the past who took part in various protests and deliberately court arrest, them tell lies to escape ramifications?? The whole episode was wholly avoidable, the flagrant disregard for Sikh rehit Maryada in the interest of making money by the notorious committee of this Gurdwara was the sole cause of this embarrassment. It backfired massively, the committee thought by deliberately fabricating and sensationalising their statements to the police a heavy handed approach would cause the protest to fail and send our a message to the community to deter future protests and allow the committee to carry on undermining rehit for financial gain. The youth are the only ones to take a stand on such issues, if the community tried to rely on organisations such as Sikh Council etc etc who have proven themselves to be toothless we would see very little action...These organisations claim go represent Sikhs then hold secret meetings with the Indian government without causing consulting the community they claim to represent...shameless.
  2. I wouldnt bother taking this Sukhvirk characteer seriously he's a bit of a troll , I'm pretty sure it's the same guy who trolls on various facebook groups as well .. recently he was trying to argue that "baba vishvakarma ceromonies and pooja " should be allowed in Gurdwaras and are not contradictory to Sikhi...in resoponse to the Leeds Ramgarhia Board issue, also seen him advocating support for sham anand karajs and other anti Sikh behaviour... Wouldnt actually be surprised if this guy wasnt even a Sikh...
  3. Singh Attacked

    These cowards ran away when the guys mates turned up. They only act big and bad when they are in groups like cowards. The full footage hasnt been released. Obviously not a good idea to wander down side streets by yourself after a night out either... Also as soon as the crew were coming upto him, he should have started to make a move not let himself get isolated next to a bin in a corner. The police traced the car these guys ran away in back to a address in Nottingham.. And interviewed one person voluntarily but apparently are not able to identify the perpetrators ? How is that possible, the owner of the far doesn't know who was using his car ? Or who it's passengers were ? Why did the police not release this footage for over 2 months ? This attack took place in November last year. Surely there was more chances of catching them if they released the footage asap after the incident and applealed for witnesses and help identifying the perpetrators. Hopefully they are identified and caught from the CCTV footage. Unlikely though , their community is very close knit they will not give up one of their own...they don't even give up known child groomers or radicalised preachers and terrorists..
  4. Dumalla Chand and Sringaar

    More important than displaying shastar or aad Chand etc on dumallas is learning how to use shastar, shastar abiyaas, shastar vidiya, jungi vidiya. Don't become a paper Kkalsa like the sad reality of amritdharees today, walking around with stylised dumallas even wearing chakkars etc... but their kirpans and Sri sahib's are blunt and nothing more than ceremonial...majority of them have absolutely no idea how to utilise these shastar. Even though combat training and Shastar vidiya is a compulsory part of Khalsa maryada it is sadly neglected, to the point of near extinction...
  5. Gurudwara Changes!

    Most of the anti panthic issues in Gurdwaras over the last 20 years in the UK like meat and alcohol parties in Gurdwara halls / community centres and interfaith Anand Karajs have been due to Gurdwara committees being made up of what you could call aethist Punjabis with zero Sikhi knowledge, their primary concern was raising money which is why many Gurdwara theses days are actually businesses rather than the spiritual centres that they should be. This is also the reason for poor quality parchaar and lack of youth attending Gurdwaras. Hence there should definitely be a vetting process for anybody wishing to become a Gurdwara committee member. They should be knowledgeable in Sikhi and also have a progressive skillset and mindset. Having Panj pyare run a Gurdwara sounds good but just being Amritdharee alone is not enough and it excludes large amounts of the community that may have the skills and mindset to take Gurdwaras to the next level. We need more than old retired blokes with little or no Sikhi knowledge or other professional skills.
  6. Leather, Tabla of Goats Skin

    If you want to do your own research and reading this question, plus much more fantastic well referenced and researched work has been carried out but some sewadars. If your on Facebook look up the Jhatka Maryada group page or check out their website www.jhatkamaryada.com . They have already answered your question in one of their articles plus many other questions regarding this issue. The outlook of this forum is pro vegi, anti meat , so there's no point having this discussion here they get upset and will lock te thread or delete the posts....
  7. 2 years after Sarbat Khalsa 2015

    Not to mention everyone seems to have forgotten about Professor Davinder Pal Singh Bhullar , Balwant Singh Rajoana and all the other jailed Singh's I'm jail despite completing their sentences.. What happened to Bapu Surat Singh and his hunger strike ??
  8. Mohan Singh made a great so speech at this event, brutally honest and to the point.
  9. Look up the "Turiya" group on Facebook they have a very interesting thread open discussing i whether there is any Ithiasic evidence that Sikhs celebrated Bandi Chor Divas...or whether it is a modern invention by hinduphobic Sikhs. They point to Suraj Prakash and panth Prakash which apparently details where Guru Hargobind Maharaj celebrated Divali with Sikhs...
  10. Independent Newspaper's hit piece on Sikh Youth UK

    Sikh Press Association, Sikh Council UK and Sikh Youth UK have issued a press release and response to the independents article. Note how it highlights the grass roots work SYUK carry out in the community directly with families , councils and the police. Note to mention the awards they have won. What community work do the Sunny Hundal, Katy Sian, Rana crew actually do ? What is their contribution to the mission of and ethos of Sikhi ???
  11. Gurdwara Act rarely elects religious people for SGPC

    Yes omissions have been made from baani by SGPC commissioned "scholars" it's a well known fact. Do some of your own research and you will find out the details. The thread below for example discusses the Shortened Rehras Sahib that is read at Haramdar Sahib. Not to mention under SGPC's watch the Dasam Granth saroop which was held at the Akal Takht complex since the time of Bhai Mani Singh Shaheed was removed, under who's authority and orders was it removed??
  12. Sikh channels

    As already stated the Sikh channels are all free to air on Sky so any satellite receiver connected to your sky feed will be able to pick them them up they are not encrypted. You don't even need an official sky box as such.
  13. Independent Newspaper's hit piece on Sikh Youth UK

    Do any of these leftists actually do any positive community work at the grass roots level to assist with issues affecting the Sikh community or do they just stir up controversy by writing biased articles to make themselves seem significant or obtain government funding ? SYUK have several initiatives with volunteers travelling up and down the country to promote and bring awareness of the Sikh faith. They run a helpline to assist members of the panth with any real world issues. What exactly do Rana, Katy Sian, Sunny Hundal etc do at a grass roots level for the faith they claim to represent ??
  14. Gurdwara Act rarely elects religious people for SGPC

    It's taken them 100 years to realise that the SGPC are a corrupt organisation originally created by the British so that they could manipulate Sikhs and create s modified version of submissive Sikh that suited there purposes. Singh Sabha in their short sightedness sold out Sikhi to the British. How can the modern electoral voting system which can easily be corrupt, be better than Guru ordained Maryada ? It's no coincidence that the forming of SGPC also bought the decline of Sikh traditions in Punjab, the decline of shastar vidaya the decline of Raag vidiya and traditional kirtan , gurmat Sangeet. The editing of baani and censorship of any opposing views and publications... One only needs to look to Sachkand Takh Hazuri Sahib to see how the Hazuri Sikhs have maintained the true Khalsa Maryada of Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj without the corruption and interference of SGPC and other anti panthic elements.
  15. Independent Newspaper's hit piece on Sikh Youth UK

    Agreed, if your going to challenge viewpoints do it in a constructive, inclusive and coherent fashion not in a aggressive or confrontational manner or anything that can be construed as such. Rest assured these kind of people will very quickly try to publicise and twist any sort of challenges to their viewpoints and label people as "extremist, fundamentalist, khalistani, intolerant" . We do not need to provide any unnecessary ammunition to the press who are only too happy to demonise and misrepresent the Sikh community already. A fully evidenced well researched cohesive response is required if any challenge is to be made.
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