Jump to content

DSG

Members
  • Posts

    70
  • Joined

  • Last visited

  • Days Won

    2

DSG last won the day on June 19 2022

DSG had the most liked content!

Recent Profile Visitors

The recent visitors block is disabled and is not being shown to other users.

DSG's Achievements

Mentor

Mentor (5/8)

  • First Post Rare
  • Collaborator Rare
  • Reacting Well Rare
  • Superstar Rare
  • Conversation Starter Rare

Recent Badges

75

Reputation

  1. There is a lot of false media , false allegations , false whereabouts of Bhai Amritpal Singh. A person who has taken a step , to devote is life in helping :- 1. Those who on drugs 2. A lifeline for those Mothers who see there children ,dosed up in Drugs 3. Telling them to take amrit , do meditation , do seva , read gurbani 4. Stand up for your rights 5. Get together as a kaum 6. Speaking up against atrocities carried out on the minorities He is deemed as a threat to Punjab , for his actions . How low can the Police , MPs, the leadshership in India go . They are very threatened by Bhai Amritpal Singhs mindset , a mindset to free the Sikhs , and unravel the corruption behind Indias politics. May waheguru keep Bhai Amritpal Singh in chardikala and give him strength to fight against injustices and wake up the Kaum worldwide regardless of ones background.
  2. Amritpal Singh , seems like a good character wanting change in Punjab and for Sikhs . Lets hope his intentions are good
  3. The article does not do any justice at all its one sided. Why did the Singhs take it in their own hands to get justice, because the local/central government and doing nothing at all. The organisers behind this are paying good money to those doing beadbi and when handed in to the Police walk free after 2-3 days , thats how they entice them to do such acts. But not this time , the Singhs did good , the world needs to know Guru Granth sahib Ji Maharaj is the king of kings , the Guru for the sikhs . enough is enough no more beadbi or suffer the consequences. when one fights for the truth and seeks justices , does not run away and hide. Thats the beauty of Sikhy and its teachings. The Singh ( one in a million) felt the pain but had the courage to do something about it , respect to him and may he stay in Chardi-kala. He felt his duty was done , and handed himself in as to say " I have seeked justice for my Guru , my job is done do whatever you want of me, but let this be a lesson to those who think twice of doing such atrocities. The justice system has done nothing about it , the perpetrators will think twice about committing such crimes again. ( I sincerely hope they do) The downside of it is media , painting the wrong picture and the Sikhs being wrongfully attacked/abused . This is where I think the main big gurudawara should fund projects to educate the people village to village regards to what is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj and preach that anyone seeking help , struggling in life the Gurudawaras are open to all and can guide /help them. Obviously this will take time and changing the mindset of the people is a enormous task , but i think we must start somewhere.
  4. I think we need to support them in every way we can . Its a shame that BOS do not approach sikh media channels or have a regular slot on there as I am sure the younger less educated sangat will definitely watch and donate if they have difficulties. Also there are over 300 Gurudawara in the UK , if all donate £100 thats 30k for them. Plus I think if they have direct debits setup ask say £1 a week , but have the target of 50,000 subscriptions will help also.
  5. Dont be scared , approach the schools head and explain what happened. Ask to do a presentation in assembly regarding sikhs and their hair . They need to be educated not just once, many times on this matter . Ask to invite parents as well or have separate sessions with the parents. Roll this education out to all the schools. I have seen on many occasions recently that schools dont do much. You have to pressure them , all they will say is , its all in hand they have been told and it will never happen again. even though they are only 5 , ask what punishment they willl give to the 5yr old who cut his hair.
  6. Parent 1. Obviously it depends on the content and the aim of the school. It would be good to have all aspects of Sikhi in one place which has authenticity. No too much pressure for them to learn and churn out material to sit exams. It would be more of quality rather than quantity . 2. Support level , to get a clear understanding what will be taught and the kids and parents expectations right from the beginning. 3. Yes Cost does matter. We have 100's of Gurudawara who should have a budget set aside to invest in the kids and our future generation. So ideas such as this can be researched and developed without thinking about funding. If the cost was reasonable I would pay plus as already mentioned if free its not taken seriously. 4. Self paced is good , but there needs to be a facility where questions can be answered. May be have one or 2 live sessions and the rest self paced. Sangat 1. Yes there should be tiers , but I think most importantly the material should be authentic. As theres a lot of online material , which ones are good resources , average and bad . 2. May be set up some kind of certification structure for sikhi which over time is recognized and can be used by individuals to train/educate other members of the public. Like many certification courses , they cost but not too much ( starting form £10 plus) The task should be to get as many people doing the online courses as possible, then the price can be low and you will cover your costs. 3.It should be focused to all the public regardless of their background. Made available to businesses ,schools, colleges, universities as part of the establishments diversification program. You have organisations such as Basics of Sikhi , Rajoana TV , Sikh Network etc.. who are doing a brillant job of explaining about sikhi. Tap in to them , make it a collective journey as you may find , they may already have a structure , resources in place , they just need a proper online presence. Reach out to the Sangat who have gyan about Sikhi via social media and Gurudawara , as there are many Scholars out their. Why is Basics of Sikhi successful , because they keep it simple , easy to understand and follow. As a parent one of the biggest hurdles for kids is speaking punjabi. Having dialogue with their parents/grandparents . My younger one , hardly speaks punjabi , but what I have found is sikh stories helps a lot. May be have online live sessions where sangat speak punjabi , general punjabi so at least they can particpate in conversations with the elder generation.
  7. I don't think we can blame the majority of the law abiding citizens. The british during their Raaj have distilled divide and conquer mentality, back stabbing , money is king tactics in the indian blood. Which today in my opinion helps those that are most vulnerable, and those corrupt individuals know how to exploit this. The British stopped Maharaj Dalip Singh going back to Punjab and take back his rule , they played every tactic to stop him and succeeded, otherwise I think Punjab would have been thee place to be. Those tactics by GOI/Police are still played now over the years we have seen protestors been shut down , abused, framed by the Police. A lot of the youngsters especially in Punjab want to go out to other countries as there are hardly any opportunities. GOI need to sort out 3 basic tenants of a country , 1) Health system 2)Police 3) Education . Its shocking that GOI on Republic day they are parading around the border showing off their weapons rather than focusing on the farmers protest and COVID19. Those few that stand up for rights are targeted. As it canbe seen from the Farmers protest. further South , those who have well paid jobs, are educated are brainwashed by media , hence think its only an issue up North and in Punjab. No one talks , if they do its against us.
  8. @Kcmidlands your bang on , its all about money nothing else. Its also interesting how they state India is a sovereign country , leave all matters to them as they can deal with it. Everyone else stay out. Yet they cause atrocities left , right and center yet no one talks. On the media , you had mainstream news about BLM,Egypt,Russia, first Mosque to provide COVID Vaccines et.. But no coverage of the farmers protest on mainstream News, where GOI have :- 1) Arrested approx. 143 people. In particular one 80 yr old and one 70 yr old. Arrested people whilst they were having lungar(food) 2) Over 170 deaths , where some have been suicides and shootings by the Police 3) Journalists arrested , cracking down on news medias such as newsclick 4) RSS thugs bought in to cause violence 5) human rights violations ( no access to toilets/bathroom/barricaded in like sheep) the list goes on and on …... I never understood the GOI judicial system , it seems as if they make it up as they are going along and all they are doing is watching video footage and arresting people at random. Surely international pressure can help put pressure on GOI ? I
  9. These guys are very clever and know how to use and abuse the system. He used the "mental instability" tactic to get off lightly. Is there an appeal to the decision or have the parties involved accepted the decision?
  10. Theres always 2 sides to the story. One question , why doesn't Deep Sidhu , go back to the Morcha and explain to the sangat what really happened. If his intentions are not to defame the morcha. Why not come out if he has nothing to hide and is a true sikh , with honest agenda . Such a shame , listening to couple of his speeches , he comes across as a good character . Loads of questions around how he got to the red fort , when confronted by youth why he ran away , where did he get the motorcycle from to flee Red fort ….. The video about the Singh who put up the Nishaan Sahib was seen and he stated when they went to the red fort , it was calm , peaceful but then the Police started to beat up a Nihang Singh , then in defense the other Nihangs came to help him then it all kicked off.
  11. In my opinion , the government obviously want the farmers out of delhi . On Akaal channel a statement came out to arrest Deep Sidhu and carry out a full investigation.They also mentioned extra armed forces and internet blackout has been deployed. 18 Police officers were injured. This asks the question will they use this against the farmers and force them out of Delhi , hopefully not causing any bloodsched? There are other people aligned as well for investigation but names were not released. This is basically social media and TV media at its best. I think in one way the government have what they seeked out to get from day one. The farmers split , people going against the morcha . The fact that there was hardly any media coverage during the 60 days plus when peaceful protest were going on. There was no media coverage when some groups wanted to harm the morcha and it was the farmers who were carrying out security activities. There was no media coverage when there was conspiracy to kill the 4 farmer leaders .There were no media coverage when fake police officers with no name badges did latee charge. There were probably many many more incidents that occurred which the whole world are not aware of. The only real media is here in the UK( Akaal,Sikh,KTV,Sangat) that go in at ground level to get to the truth. But I think the problem is how do we get it out there to the masses. This is propaganda at its best reminds me of Hitlers propaganda against the jews defaming them in any way shape and form and getting the masses turn against and blame the jews. I think we can only stay positive and carry on with the Morcha. even if the farmers are removed forcefully from delhi. The farmers should create there own leadership ,and setup there own agenda so that all farmers are benefitted such as install solar panels in villages , get there water setup , get there own buyers of produce . As the sangat are willing to donate within India and internationally for a good cause. So I don't think money would be an issue if shared and used wisely. The farmers create there own Monopoly bypass aid from the government . It will be a challenge. May Waheguru provide guidance and support to those true souls who are fighting for a true cause.
  12. India is so corrupt, these are their tactics to get others going against the farmers. They farmers will not get any justice, the government are playing dirty political games. I think international pressure must be applied. Its a shame English media bbc, itv have not shown this on main news.. We can only pray hoping there is no bloodshed.
  13. Good post and question. I totally agree we need something , in my opinion I think :- 1. Have clearly defined roles and responsibilities . such as a team that can tackle Gurudawara issues , a team to tackle social media issues , a team to tackle political issues , a team to educate all , a team for sports issues/activities etc... We have a lot of organisations here in the UK that are already doing this such as Sikh network , Basics of Sikhi , Sikh Federation , Sikh Council UK ( Do we need to bring them all together ?) and will they be willing to work together ? Recently there has been a split in Sikh Council UK , due to disputes between different factions ? ( Sikh Council UK was good , but not publicized very well , now disputes/splits , the question arises will anything work , I think yes if we have the right people . 2. Pay the people For those chosen , give them a wage ( The Gurudawara can fund this , or even the sangat. We have to hit the masses ( can use Sikh Channels to do so , if we clearly define the roles and objectives) .If there are approximately 700,000 Sikhs in the UK , each give £1 a week , we have in a month 2.8 million pounds. This can be used to pay the selected persons , and I think we can all spare £1 a week. 3. Give power to the selected body Here in the UK , once a panel of people have been selected it should go to the Government and ask them to give powers ( maybe similar to the charity commission) , such that they can serve appropriate penalties to those who are going against sikhi . (If one knows slating Sikhi in any way,shape or form means punishment , the perpetrator's will think twice about doing bad deeds) 4. All need to be doing the same Regardless of which Gurudawara one goes to , all should follow the same mariyada , and stop opening too many Gurudawara in the same area due to personal conflict. 5. Involve the young Get the youth involved more , give them more responsibility may be advised by the experienced and older generation. 6. Use the TV channels Educate and inform the community . We have 4 Sikh channels , mostly all of them are doing the same ( i.e. news , path , more news , bit of hot topics , more news ) … with the funding setup research centres in the UK , so proper research of sikhi can be done with visual aids and presented on the channels. One of them can be the Sikh History starting from 14th Century ( from Hindu/sufi rule , to Mugal/Persian rule , to Gurus times , Maharaja Ranjeet Singh times, British Raaj etc...). I think if we know our history , one can realise the sacrifices Sikhs made so we can have the life we have today . You never know some diamonds may arise and lead the way . I think India is a different kettle of fish , makes my blood boil when I see a sikh being beaten , kesh pulled , distaar taken off , and this is by the Police , who should be the protectors but rather they are the abusers. Hence no one really stands up , incase they are framed and banged up in jail.
  14. He should be challenged , to come on air voice his point and on the other side the scholars / organisations who have factual information to challenge him. We probably know the outcome ( he wont turn up )
  15. Question - how do you know the people behind the posts are Sikh ? One can easily on social media get images , setup sikh names , and post stuff which is anti sikh to cause a stir / controversy. I think they should be ignored , don't give them the lime light , let them do whatever they do behind closed doors ...
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use