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  1. for me is one sant comment meant, there has only been on sant who lived and died by his bachan, there are many with the label but the as everyone knows actions speak louder than words.
  2. Veer jee debated well with guru sahibs kirpa, please refrain from any pump shump for veer jee, I have watched many of his videos and firmly believe that to help monetarily is the best way of showing him and others our respect. ousathath ni(n)dhaa dhooo thiaagai khojai padh nirabaanaa || Renounce both praise and blame; seek instead the state of Nirvaanaa. May guru sahib bless more Sikhs to this kind of parchar in our youth, it is much needed...
  3. Whilst I commend veer je for his amazing vids etc I think you will find to make it as simple as there is no argument to have isn't what the panth has been doing for the last 150 years... whilst I agree to debate the point is futile the reality is somewhat different and we all know that, veer jee should adhere to what the akal takhat says on these matter and not what a taksal or jatha or sampardaaa does, why ? because if we say we accept the akal takhat as the supreme authority then surely we have to accept the marayada ? Plenty will argue over this point, personally don't create a debate where this is not one. "Everyone agree ? " only if it was that simple....
  4. At least people have cleared up the patit definition it is a fallen Sikh, one who has taken amrit and done one of the 4 kurtahits, personally think a decision like this can push people away, we should be inclusive not exclusive. It would have been better to say those wishing to do seva should be amritdahri etc, and also instructing gwara committees no more elections etc, (too much money wasted on that), simple concepts of parrchees etc.
  5. hmm I would say the comment about them being patit for being monea is incorrect, a patit is a Sikh who has taken amrit and the done one of the four kurahits as per my understanding. I agree we should work under one banner etc, and if the majority of the gdwarea through the country are in support would make sense to support them, the leaders will be the same, the speeches the same, perhaps we should try and change this concept and invite all those who want to speak but make sure they are articulate speaker and not just shouting into the mike etc. It is a difficult enough event to arrange without causing dubtaa int he community.
  6. just hope they implement such mattea to the max, ie no badal sitting on chairs in mahrajs hazzoori !!! they have left it a bit open, from now on ? so what about all the gwarea who have already got benches or chairs at the back ? do they remove ? can't have it both ways really, as ever we seem to worrying about the wrong things in the panth.
  7. will truly be embarrassing if there is a clash of events, I suggest that they separate their weekends, personally think over the years we have done our demos but what does it achieve other than remembering for ourselves which we all do in our daily ardass, hope the organisers for next years events try and raise as much awareness through the English press and media, full page adverts informing the public what we are remembering and why !!
  8. Good point, will mention it to the poster designer person...
  9. Waheguru ji ka khalsa, waheuguru ji ki fateh Leicester are very blessed this weekend, akhand kirtani jatha rainsbhai keertan all night at clarendon park road, Guru Amar Das jee gurdwara, please attend and gain maxim laha, Bhai Gurpreet Singh ji shimla, Bhai Manjeet Singh jee glasgow, Bhai Jagdev singh ji paris and many more national keertanee attending... har dhin raen keertan gayeeiaa, bhor na joonee payeaa.... Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh... PS. Hopefully some of it live on one of the channels, can't promise so if you miss out, you miss out....
  10. True akj_4eva., you had summarised the thread very well, there is an english say "do not talk ill of the dead", this is probably in relation to karma, what we want to be remembered as, sure the case has brought up some very dubious gala, which no one is comfortable with, again I am one of those who agrees that we do not need to make a song and dance about the past, who are we too judge, it is evident that gagandip had many faults, who doesn't ?, kaam get's the better of best of the best, who are we ? yes a rapist deserve's punishment, in a court of law, not when they have been murdered and accusations made after ? yes we will all pay for our actions, let us together do ardas that maharaj forgives him of any faults/sins and blesses him however guru sahib should decide.... we are just beggars at guru jis dhar...
  11. Reality is, so called leaders sell out when it suits them, there are very few who will go all the way and give their head to the panth...those are dhan guru dhan guru pyearea
  12. You will prob find they are most east europeans doing media courses and techinically cheap labour !! it is sad that we can't hire our sikhs brothers/sistes who already film etc for this purpose.. I agree it is quite embrassing for the sangat... it's like saying that we have no capable people to do filming etc.. I concur the channel has lost a lot of it's orginiality and needs to get back to what it started out as, all we see now are special discussion of ofcom ! sikh national council, etc etc.. never seen bbc have a debate on offcom report, maybe a 1 minute statement... personally what I really want to see is 10 Sikh channels, why ? cus it really cheeses me of seeing all the islamic ones, and to top it of sikh channel try to pass something not allowing any other channel !!! what the hell ??? come on sikh world, sikh HD, sikh 3dtv, sikh anything you want... let's have some competition for the sikh channel !!!
  13. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-from-khalsa-primary
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