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From the "Learning Zone" Discussion Group: Rumours and Propaganda about Prof. Darshan Singh Posted by: "sarabjeet_great" sarabjeet_great@yahoo.com sarabjeet_great Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:40 am (PST) Yesterday, I, along with some other journalists, had an informal conversation by Prof. Darshan Singh, regarding misinformation being spread about him. He revealed very interesting information about some recent incidents : 1) The first rumour about Prof. Darshan Singh is that he was denied the permission to do kirtan at Hazoor Sahib. About this rumour, the renowned ragi informed that on the morning of his first day kirtan at Hazur Sahib he, during the explanatin of gurbani, told the sangat that every speaker is claiming that it was at Hazur Sahib where Guru Gobind Singh conferred guruship on guru granth sahib (at that time called 'adi granth'). He raised the question that whether the tenth Guru simultaneously conferred guruship on any other scripture or person? If not, then how comes that another scripture (read dasam granth) is being given the status of guru (at hazoor sahib). The ragi said in his kirtan that he would expalin about the concepts of 'guruship' and the need to have 'guru' in the evening. The management of hazur sahib became anxious that the prof. could create a public opion against their highly objectionable policy of creating a guru (dasam granth), parallel to guru granth sahib. They held a discussion with DSGMC president S. Paramjit Singh Sarna. Thereby, Mr. Sarna requested just to do kirtan in the evening and no 'explanation' should be done. The prof. denied to kirtan on conditional basis and didn't perform kirtan at all in the evening. The next day, he left back for New Delhi. 2) The seond rumour about the prof. is that he was denied permission to do kirtan at a gurdwara Guru Tegh Bahadur in Jalandhar. About this rumour, Prof. Darshan Singh informed that the president of the above mentioned gurdwara had been requesting him for a long time to perform kirtan at this gurdwara. Accordingly, prof. Darshan Singh fixed the date of 13th Jan 08 to do kirtan at the above mentioned gurdwara. However, owing to the previous rumour, the president of the Gurdwara (Mr. Gaba) got apprehensive and asked some other member to make a phone call to the professor. The person requested the ragi not to take up the issue of 'Dasam Granth' during his kirtan at the Gurdwara. According to prof. Darshan Singh, he immediately told the committee member that he won't be coming to the gurdwara (to do kirtan under specific terms & conditions). 3) The third rumour is that Prof. Darshan Singh was even denied the permission to do kirtan at Darbar Sahib, Amritsar. About this rumour, Prof. Darshan Singh revealed that he never had himself requested the SGPC for the permission about kirtan at Darbar Sahib. Instead, someone from Sikh sangat wished that and made a phone call to Jathedar Avtar Singh Makkar, making a request for the purpose. Makkar, on his part, said something highly uncivilised as his reply. The professor says that he does have the recording of this phone call but will release it in future, at an appropriate timing. 4) Another rumour (or well-planned propaganda) about Prof. Darshan Singh is that he is a hypocrite who earlier used to perform kirtan from the writings of Dasam Granth but now is preaching against them. About this blame, Prof. Darshan Singh informed that in his opinion, those writings of Dasam Granth can be read, sung and discussed, whose message is in line with the philosophy of Guru Granth Sahib. He, however added, that even these writings should be treated as literature and not as 'guru'. He said that if a person, organisation or gurudwara is indulged in giving guru like status to any other scripture than Guru Granth Sahib, then that person or institution is directly and intentionally violating the order of Guru Gobind Singh (about giving guruship only to 'Adi Granth'). He said that he is ready to discuss the topic of Dasam Granth with any 'Sikh' because this an issue of the Sikh community. He said that those challenging him for a public dialogue should just prove that they are Sikhs by acknowleding publicly that they do not treat any other scripture like guru, other than Guru Granth Sahib. He requested that whether he himself is a good Sikh or bad Sikh, but he requests all the Sikhs that they should read and understand the messages of Guru Granth Sahib during the current 'Shatabdi'. Sarabjeet Singh New Delhi, India Editor-India Awareness Ph. : 9871683322 Website : www.indiaawareness.com Email : editor@indiaawareness.com

Excellent Sewa RamanPreet Singh Veerji - keep it up. Please can we have more Prof Darshan Singh Jee if possible. Gur Rakha.

GurFateh all I know Bhai Jasbir Singh Poanta Sahib wale is still in the UK - anyone know how long for and schedule details etc ? Thanks. GurFateh.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sangat Ji, last Bhai Jasbir Singh prog in Jorkshire for the time being: Fri 5th Oct - Singh Sabha G'dwara, Bradford @ 7pm And then Bhai Sahib's back in Leeds on Sat 13th Oct for the outdoor program in Roundhay Pk. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Found out last night that Bhai Jasbir Singh Poanta Sahib Wale will be doing kirtan at this event on the evening of Sat 13th Oct 6-8pm. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Me again. This is great - top kirtan every night for the past week or so. Latest update is: Bhai Jasbir Singh Poanta Sahib Wale - Two nights in Bradford :lol: Wed 3rd Oct - Guru Gobind Singh G'dwara, Leeds Rd, Bradford @ 7pm Thurs 4th Oct - Guru Gobind Singh G'dwara, Leeds Rd, Bradford @ 7pm And also doing Asa Di War Fri 5th Oct - Sikh Temple, C/town Rd, Leeds @ 6:30am Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Bhai Jasbir Singh Poanta Sahib Wale - Two more nights in Leeds :lol: Mon 1st Oct - Sikh Temple, Chapeltown Rd @ 7pm Tues 2nd Oct - Sikh Temple, Chapeltown Rd @ 7pm Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Ok his first program in Leeds was last night, but he's good - as heard on some of the Atam Ras CDs. Remaining programs in Leeds are: Thurs 27th - Sikh temple, Chapeltown Rd @ 7pm Fri 28th - GNNSJ, Beeston @ 7pm Sat 29th - GNNSJ, Beeston @ 7pm Sun 30th - Sikh temple, Chapeltown Rd @ 11am Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh For those of you who live in Jorkshire Just saw a note at Chapeltown G'dwara that: Bhai Jasbir Singh Poanta Sahib Wale will be at the Sikh Temple, Chapeltown Rd, Leeds Next week Mon - Thurs (24th-27th Sept) from 7pm - 8pm and also Sunday 30th from 11am-12pm. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Looks like the times for the London programs have changed a little: 11am - Alice Way, Hounslow 1:15pm - Havlock Rd, Southall 7:30pm - Shepherd's Bush Please see attached flyer and link below: http://www.spiritvoyage.com/ticket_booth/e...m?pc=TIX-010701 Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Jasjit

BUMP !! Gur Fateh. Bhai Sahib and his Jatha did kirtan of Asa Di War this morning and will be doing the same again tomorrow (Thurs 9th) morning from 7am - 8am at The Sikh temple, Chapeltown Rd, Leeds. Gur Fateh.

Gur Fateh Ji Sounds good. Any chance someone will record both the Q/A and the keertan and stick it on the net somewhere?? Thanks Gur Rakha, Jasjit.

Fateh all Please read this: http://www.sikhchic.com/article-detail.php?id=217&cat=12 Then register at ggsacademy.com if you're interested in learning more about Gurbani WJKK WJKF

Gur Fateh all. Just wondered if anyone recorded this - if so could you please upload it to the server. Many Thanks. Gur Rakha.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Need some advice. Am looking for the best equipment to use to record kirtan. Have got a tie mic (Yoga EM-8) and have been using a minidisc recorder for ages which has been fine, but now I want to record direct to a small mp3 player using the microphone. Any ideas on the best mp3 player anyone ? Thanks. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh