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  1. Yes I agree with that there is too much boastfulness but most of it is coming from a Sikh perspective. It is we Sikhs who boast about ending the Mughal Empire when the reality was that the Marathas had more of an impact and controlled far more of India than we did. We were the last to fold to the British though. We make up nonsense stories about the Americans wanting to build a statue of Hari Singh Nalwa in the white house or NASA keeping a copy of the Guru Granth Sahib and consulting it to discover new things in the universe. It is we Sikhs (rather than Punjabi Hindus) who refer to all non Punjabis as Bhaiyas. We refer to all Hindus as Bahmans. We are racist and most of that comes from Sikh elitism rather than Punjabi. So many Sikhs are so dumb that they think the word Punjabi means Sikh. If you say to most Sikhs that so and so is a Punjabi they will think that the only religion that person can be is a Sikh. This is despite Punjab only being 60% Sikh. How dumb can people be that they don't realise that 40% of the people in their state don't follow the same religion as them? It should be blatantly obvious, but not to a large portion of Sikhs. We boast about our contribution to Indian Independence, World War 2, The wars with Pakistan, and in these wars we were just used as pawns on the frontlines fighting other people's battles and sacrificing a disproportionate amount of lives. It's time for Sikhs to truly get educated and become mangers and CEOs of companies, not just remain as farmers or soldiers fighting other people's wars.
    5 points
  2. Is it really the culture that Guru Sahib accepted though? Was he not the one that saw the rampant misogyny, that still exists to this day, and rejected it? Was it not the culture's ignorant ways that led him to yearn for realization and from that realization establish Sikhi? Are those actions considered changing "some bad parts"? Jacobin really? Is it only because I'm trying to propose the removal of our old ways? The culture is a boastful, misogynistic, Brahmanic, casteist, way of life. Yes, there is some good to it, such as its familial system, but as a whole, I don't see it being all constructive. Perhaps you'll enlighten me? Punjabi culture in its boastful, bravado ways allows for many things intoxicating than a "bit of drink". One thing it doesn't allow is education, which our people desperately need. Clearly the authentic Punjabi culture you are supposedly talking about is not in practice, and therefore is a thing of the past. Things are only going to get worse from here. Instead of trying to cling onto a culture that we have no need of, what is wrong in accepting the culture encompassed in Sikhi, for there is a whole culture in it?
    5 points
  3. And I think a reason only Sikh people do it is because of the boastful nature of Punjabi culture, which our Muslim and Hindu counterparts have shed. Sikhi itself banishes any sort of egotistical behavior. You're exactly right, we have these false narratives spread among the community of conquering Afghanistan, and defeating the Mughal Empire single handedly when none of this is true. And it seems like we're trying to make up for something, when the fact is that what our ancestors accomplished was more than enough given their population size. I fully agree that we need to stop fighting other people's wars and get into fields that can lead to power, and finance is key to that.
    4 points
  4. A lot of these young men are looking for respect, especially from older men. They are also looking for food, and to belong to something greater than themselves they can be proud of. I've had good luck interacting with gangs in my area, have you ever tried street parchar with them? I'm ready for confused bootha to come out in force, but I'd warmly and vigorously greet them with a Sat Sri Akal. Or Akaaaaaali. When they ask what the heck you just said, say that's how we greet fellow warriors or how we greet immortal warriors. That gives them proper respect to start and might be all the hook you need to get them very interested in Sikhi. You'd want to be coming from a loving couragous place, street kids smell fear like sharks smell blood. Even if Sikhi isn't for them, the better treated they are by Sikhs and respected the less likely they are to target the Sangat. When they are out intimidating people, in part they are interviewing for targets, looking for the fear response that signals the go ahead, they are also looking for love, respect, and acceptance whether they realize it or not.
    3 points
  5. Citing music as a cause for societal degeneration started well before rap. Not saying rap isn't in this category, but heavy metal promoting racism, satanism, black magic, sex, drugs, violence, etc. isn't exactly wholesome, and has been effecting the uk much longer.
    3 points
  6. I disagree that an elitist attitude exists in all states of India. Punjabi and Punjabi culture endorse an extremely boastful nature which has seeped into Sikh attitudes as well. I've seen Punjabi look down on anyone just because of their appearance or caste, we're as worse as white people during colonialism. I'll hear our fellow Punjabi boasting about conquering Alexander, having the largest empire in India, and single handedly defeating the Mughals because of this boastful, elitist attitude. It's this kind of attitude that drives people away Sikhi, as most equate Sikhi to Punjabi, which is not true at all. You're definitely right about Punjabi, especially Sikhs, needing to chase after academics.
    3 points
  7. Boys need fathers in their lives to control them, especially if they are living in a low income neighbourhood where crime is prevalent. Being politically correct will never fix problems, in fact it will add more fire to the flames. I think rap music in general has a negative effect, it promotes violence, materialism, shallowness, misogyny and other crime. In Punjab rap music is big and has been for the last 7 years, is there any coincidence that this is when alcohol, drug abuse and violence is at it's highest? Youngsters will mimic what they see on TV or hear on the radio. Black youth will mimic what the black rappers are rapping about and Punjabi youth will mimic the likes of Honey Singh, Sidhu Moosewala etc
    2 points
  8. Brother, there, there is no I, is no we, no they/them, no he nor she, but only Wahiguru, I repeat it once more, only HIm, Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Sach Khand is not like Swarg, Baikunth or alike the devtay loks/planes, where gods are with goddesses, their children, devtays, demigods, evil and so on.... In Sach Khand, only Ik Oankar, Satnam exists, if anyone wants to remain or see indivduals there, then better do not follow sikhee, be a christian or a hindu or any other dharam/religion. Sikhee is not for those who have any other desires or expectations, other than the Highest of all, only One, Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Sat Sree Akal.
    2 points
  9. Brother, Mind is duality, is confusion, is maya, is change, is variety, is limited, is the source of pain, is subtle matter, is not divinity.... Just as long as water is in the bottle, even if thrown in the sea, the water in the bottle is separate from its origin, the Sea, though there is water on all sides. in a similar way, in order for the water to become one with the sea, the bottle has to be broken, in a similar way, mind is only with the soul, as long as the soul is under the control of the mind. Once the soul, is released from the mind by His apaar kirpa through Bhakti, the mind becomes helpless and powerless, thus only releases the soul from its clutches, then the soul rides higher and higher, in the jahaaz of Nam, and reaches Sach Khand, upon reaching there, it becomes one with the only one original and permanent existing reality, which is none other than Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Just as all the rivers flow and merge in the Ocean, to become one with it without any distinction, so do all souls do upon reaching there, means merging in Him. Souls do not go there for vacation, or sightseeing, or attending a musical concert, or give it any name ...But souls yearn to go there, for it is their origin, where once they were one with Him, without any second, third or multiplicity. For there only Wahiguru exists. Sach Khand vaseh Nirankar There is no such destruction of the soul. For the soul being a particle of the Ocean, holds all the same virtues/qualities, as the Ocean has; that of divinity, of Sach, of chit, of Anand, of immortality. If the soul was not of the same nature as Him, it could never become one with Him. If there is any destruction prior to our union with Him, that is of the mind only, and it is due to this very mind that we are confined in the mayavee creation, taking our bodies to be our real identity and nature...and from there on, all our problems start. Holding on to Him, through His bhakti, is the key to be freed from all this mind and maya, and also the key of our union with Him. Stay blessed. Sat Sree Akal.
    2 points
  10. The wheat we eat today is not the same wheat our grandparents ate. The modern wheat varieties are actually genetic hybrids that contain a much greater number of chromosomes and therefore more proteins that are not present in naturally-occuring ancient varieties of wheat. This is partly why modern wheat is pro-inflammatory, causes allergies, contains more gluten, and is full of anti-nutrients that strip the body of vitamins and minerals. The second reason is that conventional wheat is sprayed with pesticides including the notorious glyphosate before harvesting which means that residues remain and are ingested. Glyphosate is carcinogenic, immunomodulatory, damages gut flora, causes chronic diseases like coeliacs/leaky gut, nutritional deficiencies. The ancient wheat varieties I have seen are organically grown so therefore are not exposed to Glyphosate. Many people with so called 'gluten-intolerance' are able to eat ancient wheat (which contains gluten) without any problems. Much like how people with so called 'lactose intolerance' can drink raw milk (which contains lactose) without any issues. These are false labels as they are misidentifying the culprit. Another problem with modern atta is the fact that in the UK (maybe other countries too) only 'wholemeal' flour is exempt from additives such as synthetic 'vitamins and minerals' (which are actually toxic drugs with different chemical properties and effects compared to what is found in nature). So every type of flour bar wholemeal contains artificial additives by law. The solution: Buy an ancient variety of wholemeal flour i.e. Einkorn, If unavailable then buy Khorasan flour.....they make delicious, easily digestible rotis. You can buy them online (in UK its Dove Farm Organics) or in supermarkets like Waitrose. You can't put a price on your health. Since roti is a staple of our diet, this one change could make a lot of difference to our health. This is what I do and thought i'd share it with you.
    1 point
  11. Totally agreed, if one hasn't seen the movie how can they judge it before even seeing it. I mean there are already calls to behead the director by crazy hot right winger sikhs in india on facebook. Absolutely grotesque. It goes out to show how emotional indian /feeble/insecure/paranoid/hot headed communal communities are. This is same underlining fear and emotions - bigger players tap into and watch sikhs ripping each other apart or big players create situation such as violent riots to kill more sikhs in name of subduing violent protest. History is witness, most damage is done to sikhs by sikhs inadvertently/unconsciously themselves as they say only iron can cut another iron. Lets just say even hypothetically even if director of this movie is bjp rss influenced, ignoring or making similar right movie in future to counter this movie with another similar movie with all historical/esoteric events and messages would be only solution. Heck, its open field, none one is stopping anyone to remake Nanak Shah Fakir-real, remake or important chapter- part 2 those who are upset. Just ignore the movie collectively if you feel so offended, it will fall into abyss. Ego thrives on resistance, controversy sells. I plan to watch torrent copy of it when it comes out as i don't want to support the director financially yet only after watching it and if i see it and deem good i will buy dvd or watch in theater.
    1 point
  12. I hope the edited version is just as good as the original. I watched the original before it got "banned". What a disservice to humanity. The movie is amazing. It is very inspiring , especially to people who don't know about Sikhism . The only people who are crying about it are the ones who haven't seen it. You're trying to nitpick every little thing, then why do you not do that at your local Gurdwara when Samparda Singhs do Katha that doesn't line up with your views? Or Nihangs? Or Taksal? Or Nanaksar? Or missionary? There are so many different views that people hold, but everyone thinks they are the ones who are right. From someone who has actually seen the movie, it is absolutely not anti-Sikh. It's actually the opposite. In the movie, they show people doing Aarti and other rituals of statue worship, but Guru Ji leads them out of their temples and contradicts those teachings. Isn't that anti hindu, if anything? The movie was made with utmost respect. We finally have something that could show the world about the teachings of love, bhagti, and service that are taught in Sikhism, but our own people are trying to stop it. People are leaving Sikhism at an alarming rate , and finally something comes along that could inspire people and we try to shut it down. Ridiculous!
    1 point
  13. Ajmer Singh makes many great points in this video:
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  14. This is a great thread. This recent obsession with "Punjabiyat" creates two different problems: 1. It encourages the youth to adopt elements of "Punjabi culture" (whether authentic Punjabi culture or some recent perversion of Punjabi culture) that are not in line with Sikhi 2. It damanges Sikhi by pigeonholing it as a strictly Punjabi phenomenon, and it prevents it from growing into the global religion that it should be.
    1 point
  15. Also when Bhai Mardana asked Guru ji how to become a sikh first hukham was to keep kesh intact , a fact most fools who claim they are sikhs of Guru Nanak Dev ji not Guru Gobind Singh ji are unaware of . The film seems to be pointless and misrepresents sikhi as just liberal airy fairy langar servers which there seems to be a decided agenda to reduce us to...
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  16. The arguements by most ppl on this forum are the same ones as conservatives whites in the USA. That crime is up do to black ppl and their rap music and fatherless homes due to welfare. They do have a point. BUT its not the whole story. In america, the group to receive the most welfare is actually white women. And this can be seen culturally. As their children are poor white males are increasing who are addicted to drugs and commit violent crime. Also most ppl said blacks were the most violent. But most school shootings have been white males. Including the recent bomber. Yes black ppl do have a crime culture. But its mostly related to black on black crime, occurs in inner cities. Now that drugs are being used by other minorites and whites that crime has spilled onto more areas. Yes black ppl alao have a culture problem where they glorify drugs and violence. But thats been going on for a long time. Also anytime ppl r suppressed, they r given drugs. Look at panjab. And in the usa, it has been proven that CIA introduced cocaine into black communities. I think most of the issues are due to having a fatherless society. This was most common in black socities. But it is now the norm in most poor neighborhoods. And so it isnt that black ppl r infecting others. Its more that society is degenerating into conditions like black society. Like fatherlessness. And black ppl had every reason to do so. But whats the reason for whites and other races to become so corrupt? Recent research in the USA shows that even black kids born to rich families will become poor and fall into the lowest classes. And low working class blacks rarely rose out of their class. Whike whitw males did. But black females have the same upward rise as white females. And the research found the trend of black males spiraling downward was highest in some areas. And lowest in others. These areas with low downward spiral had upward rising black populations and had the most fathers in the families. This recent research has made headlines in the US.you guys can google it.
    1 point
  17. Learn to read at a second grade level, then we can continue this discussion.
    1 point
  18. So I was looking for a shampoo which wasn't loaded with any toxic chemicals, carcinogens, endocrine disruptors etc and there was nothing on the market, even those labelled as 'chemical-free' and 'organic' failed miserably... Then I found the solution....I have been using this and it works wonders. I would strongly recommend everyone that uses commercial shampoos to stop since not only are you damaging your hair, you are also absorbing the above chemicals through the scalp into your tissues and bloodstream..leading to systemic effects.
    1 point
  19. Tea contains an array of toxic ingredients which promote disease. It contains chemicals (e.g.tannins, phytates) which inhibit iron absorption, reduce iron bio-availability leading to iron deficiency anaemia. Vegetarians and pregnant mothers should therefore avoid tea for their own health and that of their children. Tea contains fluoride, heavy metals (inc Al, Pb), carcinogens, pesticides, caffeine, nicotine to name a few. As you can see some of these chemicals are highly addictive causing dependence, tolerance and withdrawal symptoms, which is why it can be hard to kick the habit. People suffering from indigestion, acid reflux, bloating should also avoid tea as the caffeine can aggravate these symptoms. To make matters worse, the tea bag material itself contains chemicals which leach out into the brew. For example plastics (e.g. thermoplastic, PVC, polypropylene) which breakdown and release carcinogens into your mug. Paper tea bags are commonly treated with epichlorophydrin which, on contact with water, hydrolyses to 3-MCPD --> a carcinogen implicated in suppressed immunity and infertility. Basically the additives which help to keep the tea bag's integrity and prevent it from disintegrating into the water, are responsible for leaching harmful, carcinogenic compounds into the tea and ultimately into your bodies. Taking this all into account, I think it's too risky on so many levels to even contemplate drinking another cup of tea. Solution: -Drink raw milk instead. -Boil water with herbs e.g. fennel, cardamom, cinnamon, cloves. -For chronic tea users, I would advice you to slowly taper down tea consumption to limit the withdrawal symptoms and not to quit 'cold turkey'.
    1 point
  20. Supermarket milk/dairy is full of hormones, pesticides (e.g. glyphosate), antibiotics, synthetic 'vitamins' (toxic), flavourings, additives, colours and is completely devoid of nutrients. 1. Pasteurisation causes milk proteins to breakdown and form carcinogenic degradation products including free glutamic acid/monosodium glutamate (msg); an excitotoxin with a wide range of adverse physical and psychiatric effects. This processing renders milk pro-inflammatory and allergenic. Beneficial nutrients, enzymes (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium) and bacteria are destroyed. Thus, milk is harder to digest which can lead to over-stress of the pancreas ultimately resulting in diabetes. 2. Homogenisation breaks down the fat globules in milk into smaller particles. This means that the harmful chemicals within processed milk (above) can easily bypass digestion and be delivered intact directly into the bloodstream, where they can exert systemic effects. E.g. high levels of IGF-1 in milk of growth hormone treated cows can pass into the blood promoting cancers. Processed milk may lead to chronic inflammation, changes in the arterial walls and ultimately athelorsclerosis-->heart disease. Solution: Raw milk. Buy it from a local Farm, Market or online. http://rawmilk.simkin.co.uk/index.html People that are ' lactose intolerant' normally tolerate raw milk well since it contains important enzymes, bacteria, improves immunity and is hypo-allergenic. Raw milk is full of vitamins and minerals which your body can use. It's great for making dahi, makhan, desi ghee too. It is more expensive, but you get what you pay for. The semi-skimmed and skimmed milk sold is shops is just a collection of the liquid at the end of industrial butter production which they would otherwise have discarded. They sell it on for profit. It is devoid of butterfat, fat soluble vitamins and is basically low quality buttermilk with additives. Ironically, having all this low-fat and fat-free dairy will actually promote diabetes and obesity! Finally, don't be fooled by organic dairy it is still processed (pasteurised/homo) and so has negative effects on your health. Get the RAW stuff.
    1 point
  21. The Akal Takht which Santa built with blood money was demolished by Sikh sangat and rebuilt
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  22. Baba Santa singh was because he took Indira Gandhi money so your saying you should he built akaal thakth sahib quickly but then baba thakur singh did Kar sewa and built it properly and also baba Santa singh used to get money from government to hit singhs who fought after 1984 so he is a sellout like the others
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  23. Probably, though the Gurus didn't object or discriminate against Sehajdhari Sikhs, You mean other than calling hair-cutters dried roots? Would that count as objecting? ਬਚਨ ਹੈ ਸ੍ਰ੍ਰ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਕਿ ਜੋ ਕੋਈ ਸਿਖ ਦਾ ਬੇਟਾ ਹੋਏੇ ਔੌਰ ਮੋਨਾ ਹੋਇ ਜਾਵੈ Bachan hai srrrī gurū jī kā ki jō kōī sikh dā bēṭā hōē aaur mōnā hōi jāvai This is the directive of Guru, that if the son of a Sikh shaves the head, ਤਸਿ ਕੀ ਜੜ੍ਹ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਸ ਕੀ, ਔੌਰ ਜੋ ਮੋਨਾ ਸਿਖ ਹੋਇ ਜਾਵੈ ਤਸਿ ਕੀ ਜੜ੍ਹ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਹਰੀ ॥ Tasi kī jaṛhhh sa kī, aaur jō mōnā sikh hōi jāvai tasi kī jaṛhhh harī ॥ His root will dry up, and if a shaven one becomes Sikh, his root will become green. ਭਾਈ ਨੰਦ ਲਾਲ ਜੀ : ਤਨਖ਼ਾਹ ਨਾਮਾ ਪੰ. ੧੪੯
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  24. No it is not. It is extremely constructive. This is the culture that Guru Sahib lived in, and changed some bad parts. Punjabi culture is much more conducive to human happiness than modern mainstream British/American culture. You sound like a Jacobin from the French Revolution. Most of the customs are destructive? Is there a percentagewise list? You've set up a strawman, then are attempting to alight it. Punjabi culture does not advocate drowning yourself in drink, or of drinking in public. If you want to say that's Punjabi culture, then you might as well also saying that drinking is part of the Sikh rehit. Authentic Punjabi culture only allows for a bit of drink behind closed doors when guests visit. Also, so-called "bhangra" is not a part of Punjabi culture. Rather, it's simply a dance to celebrate farmers' harvests. It's for men only. Male-female dancing (whether "bhangra" or otherwise) is not a part of Punjabi culture. Finally, girls dancing (whether giddha or otherwise) with men watching is also not a part of authentic Punjabi culture. (I realize that there was prostitution, I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about the "mainstream".) So if you were just to follow authentic Punjabi culture, you'd be in a pretty good place (better than mainstream British/American culture or fake Punjabi culture). Of course Sikhism goes a step further, and nasha is outright banned in the rehit.
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