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  1. 3 points
    Good question. I think being an amritdhari means u are taking sikhi as ur religion and the guru as ur Satguru. So that means from now on u must follow all the rehits and hukams. And have the same purpose as ur fellow sikhs. And before taking any step in ur life. Ask ur guru for aagiya and advice. Also as an amritdhari, we r not only saint soldiers or but also monk householders. Grihsti sinaas. Which means while we do live in this world and earn a living that should not be our goal. To become rich to spoil our kids should not be our aim. We should be like buddhist monks. Who eat what is given. Wear simple clothes. Try and practice to control the thoughts. And any free time spent in solitude, in meditation, to find the reality of this world. It has now become a fashion to wear big turbans and then makeup or fashionable outfits. When our turbans and our hair were supposed to set us apart. Supposed to remind us not to fit into the world. Not to try to enjoy the world. To remind us we have a different purpose. A higher purpose. The world is only to be used to fulfill our basic needs not to occupy our complete attention. Or we were supposed to be kingly rebels. Baagi Baadshah. Which means we must be unique. Not only in our appearance but our thoughts and actions as well. Baadshah as in chardi kala and carefree while the world stresses abt tests, exams, money matters. Baagi that we stand with those overlooked. Be religious as the world turns toward atheism and inward spirituality only. Or Servant Saviors. Or wise, wahegurus warriors. Or warriors worshipoing the wonderous one. Sorry got carried a way by alliteration..
  2. 2 points
    Having watched the BBC report on alcohol being an issue in the UK Punjabi community, I came to a realization that Sikhs value Punjabiyat (Punjabi-ness) over their Hindu and Muslim counterparts and are for that reason suffering. Muslim Punjabi were willing to separate their state, their language and culture for their religion and did so. The Hindu Punjabis as well have distanced themselves from Punjabiyat, evidenced through their speaking of Hindi. Now Punjabiyat has its goods and bads, however as a whole, the culture is extremely destructive. And I think it was for a reason that Guru Nanak was born in a Punjabi community and not any other Indian community, as the culture needed saving, and Sikhi was just that. To be very honest, Punjabiyat and Sikhi are polar opposites. And unfortunately most "Sikhs" follow Punjabiyat over Sikhi. This is our fault. The ethnic identity of Punjab is actually quite recent, having only emerged fully in the 10th century. It was essentially a mixture of Jats, Khatris, Rajputs, Tarkhans, Brahmins, Sindhis, and Dalits that formed a new identity on the basis of language, and now ethnic. Before this, Punjab was home to Vedic teachings and essentially was a small cog in the mega-Vedic machine which encompassed Sapta Sindhu (NW India + Pakistan + Eastern Afghanistan). It's only a few hundred years older than our Sikh identity, and unlike the Sikh identity it was never truly defined up until recently. In fact, taking a look at the history of the Punjab region (when it was called Punjab and before that), there's not much to be proud of in fact. Yes, it was home to the oldest university of the world, Takshashila, a institution for Vedic teachings, however other than that, it was mostly defeat after defeat by invaders and cowardice until Sikhi. The first time after thousands of years of foreign rule, indigenous rule in Punjab was established only by Sikhs. What I'm trying to convey here is that as Sikhs, we need to learn from our fellow Muslim and Hindu counterparts and ease up on the Punjabi identity, and stress more importance on Sikhi. I'm not saying stop speaking Punjabi and whatnot, however get rid of the customs, which are mostly destructive, such as alcohol consumption.
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    You have quite a mish mash there. It says in christianity and maybe other abrahamic faiths that God created humans in his image. Sikhi does not say this. Sikhi says God is formless, yet he is also all forms. As in all of creation is God. So how can we say only humans r in Gods image? All of creation is God yet God is also seperate from creation. And God is also the jyot or the life light in all. Or the soul in all.
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    Greetings, I am new to Sikhism (about 4 months) of reading and practicing as best I can. One of the aspects I like a lot is the encouragement of family life. Up until this point, I had been a practicing Buddhist for the past ~11 years. Having recently had a child and starting a young family, the strong teaching of renunciation of family life is one of the things that made me turn away from Buddhism. For me, religion/philosophy/way of life, is about support to keep being a positive and good person no matter how challenging life can become. I think that having a family is difficult and Sikhism gives one support to get through tough times. In addition, I think life should be celebrated and having a family does that I think. I was curious as to what the main reasons behind the encouragement of family life are in Sikhism. I know it is encouraged, but haven't really come across the why. Thanks everyone. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh - I.
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    I don't think there are any basic geometric shapes that someone hasn't concocted some metaphysical meaning for. When engineering things, or building things, the shape of the thing is determined by the math, science, materials, means of construction, and asthetics. I wouldn't read too much into it, or you'll be left with no shapes from which to construct anything.
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    U should be glad bhforce answered ur post and so detailed and thorougly too. Many other posters including me would have called u a troll and chased u off. Seriously? Dating maryada? Wat next? How to go eat at a bar ...rules?? Sikhi is not just abt rules or controlling every aspect of ur life. But in case u r genuine . There is no dating. We only have 2 martial states. Single or married. And the goal is to go from single to married without any hassle, without going out with a bunch of different ppl while u try them out to figure out wat u like wat u dont. Basically u look for a marriage partner. If ur parents or elders can help u fantastic. If they cant. Then u have to do all the hard work. Ive been taught there r 6 things that must match when getting married. 1. Age. Like no more than 5 year difference in my opinion. 2. Money status. If u grew up rich, u will have a hard time adjusting to living in a poor one. U wont know how to save or how to buy at thrift shops etc 3. Religion. 4. Health 5. Same language and culture 6. Ethnicity/nationality These 6 things plus watever things u might need. Then u have to find someone who fits this criteria. And then approach them and ask them to consider u for marriage.. See why having an elder person helps? If they agree to consider u for marriage. Then and only then can u meet up at public places or talk on social media. Its like u guys r engaged. After a few meetings. I would say 3. You guys decide if u guys r compatible. Then either a yes or no for marriage is given. Most western ppl worry abt love. And then spend their 20s 30s looking for the perfect one or the true love. Theres no such thing. Then in 35s they marry anyone who is left as they r running out of time.To be able to have a good marriage, u just need to get along. I mean u lived with ur parents and siblings without choosing them. And u manage. Both of u need to be responsible, mature adults with similar goals and values and u will have a nice marriage.
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    I think there needs to be a new rule in which the user who replies has to work with the original poster's question on their certain beliefs in rehat other than posting their own views.
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    I said "people." I never alluded to their nationality or ethnicity. My next door neighbours are a family of Nigerian Christians. Most kindest and warmest people I've ever known. They've shown me more love than any Sikh ever has. There's savages in all races. In this particular context, there's a hathi in the room not many are eager to discuss, which is ironic considering there's many, many black nationalities and ethnicities who have no problem calling a spade a spade. It's the perpetually offended "educated" white man who's terrified of conducting a frank and honest discussion. That's ultimately to their detriment as history will prove one day.
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    It all comes down to one thing created by man, "roadmen".
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    Where did you read that, the Bible? While I would agree that God isn't a "human", I would not extend that to saying that God does not listen to prayers, in the way that a King would listen to commoners' grievances and give relief. The issue of God, his form, and creation is a complex one. God is both nirgun (formless) and sargun (formed). But here are some excerpts from Gurbani for thought. One must perceive the metaphors here: God is neither male nor female: ਸੁੰਨ ਮੰਡਲ ਇਕੁ ਜੋਗੀ ਬੈਸੇ ॥ Sunn Manddal Eik Jogee Baisae || The Yogi, the Primal Lord, sits within the celestial sphere of deepest Samaadhi. ਨਾਰਿ ਨ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਕਹਹੁ ਕੋਊ ਕੈਸੇ ॥ Naar N Purakh Kehahu Kooo Kaisae || He is not male, and He is not female; how can anyone describe Him? ਧਨਾਸਰੀ (ਮਃ ੧) ਅਸਟ. (੧) ੪:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੬੮੫ ਪੰ. ੧੭ Raag Dhanaasree Guru Nanak Dev Portraying God in the form of a man: ਤੇਰੇ ਬੰਕੇ ਲੋਇਣ ਦੰਤ ਰੀਸਾਲਾ ॥ Thaerae Bankae Loein Dhanth Reesaalaa || Your eyes are so beautiful, and Your teeth are delightful. ਸੋਹਣੇ ਨਕ ਜਿਨ ਲੰਮੜੇ ਵਾਲਾ ॥ Sohanae Nak Jin Lanmarrae Vaalaa || Your nose is so graceful, and Your hair is so long. ਕੰਚਨ ਕਾਇਆ ਸੁਇਨੇ ਕੀ ਢਾਲਾ ॥ Kanchan Kaaeiaa Sueinae Kee Dtaalaa || Your body is so precious, cast in gold. ਸੋਵੰਨ ਢਾਲਾ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਮਾਲਾ ਜਪਹੁ ਤੁਸੀ ਸਹੇਲੀਹੋ ॥ Sovann Dtaalaa Kirasan Maalaa Japahu Thusee Sehaeleeho || His body is cast in gold, and He wears Krishna's mala; meditate on Him, O sisters. ਜਮ ਦੁਆਰਿ ਨ ਹੋਹੁ ਖੜੀਆ ਸਿਖ ਸੁਣਹੁ ਮਹੇਲੀਹੋ ॥ Jam Dhuaar N Hohu Kharreeaa Sikh Sunahu Mehaeleeho || You shall not have to stand at Death's door, O sisters, if you listen to these teachings. ਹੰਸ ਹੰਸਾ ਬਗ ਬਗਾ ਲਹੈ ਮਨ ਕੀ ਜਾਲਾ ॥ Hans Hansaa Bag Bagaa Lehai Man Kee Jaalaa || From a crane, you shall be transformed into a swan, and the filth of your mind shall be removed. ਬੰਕੇ ਲੋਇਣ ਦੰਤ ਰੀਸਾਲਾ ॥੭॥ Bankae Loein Dhanth Reesaalaa ||7|| Your eyes are so beautiful, and Your teeth are delightful. ||7|| ਤੇਰੀ ਚਾਲ ਸੁਹਾਵੀ ਮਧੁਰਾੜੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥ Thaeree Chaal Suhaavee Madhhuraarree Baanee || Your walk is so graceful, and Your speech is so sweet. ਕੁਹਕਨਿ ਕੋਕਿਲਾ ਤਰਲ ਜੁਆਣੀ ॥ Kuhakan Kokilaa Tharal Juaanee || You coo like a songbird, and your youthful beauty is alluring. ਤਰਲਾ ਜੁਆਣੀ ਆਪਿ ਭਾਣੀ ਇਛ ਮਨ ਕੀ ਪੂਰੀਏ ॥ Tharalaa Juaanee Aap Bhaanee Eishh Man Kee Pooreeeae || Your youthful beauty is so alluring; it pleases You, and it fulfills the heart's desires. ਸਾਰੰਗ ਜਿਉ ਪਗੁ ਧਰੈ ਠਿਮਿ ਠਿਮਿ ਆਪਿ ਆਪੁ ਸੰਧੂਰਏ ॥ Saarang Jio Pag Dhharai Thim Thim Aap Aap Sandhhooreae || Like an elephant, You step with Your Feet so carefully; You are satisfied with Yourself. ਸ੍ਰੀਰੰਗ ਰਾਤੀ ਫਿਰੈ ਮਾਤੀ ਉਦਕੁ ਗੰਗਾ ਵਾਣੀ ॥ Sreerang Raathee Firai Maathee Oudhak Gangaa Vaanee || She who is imbued with the Love of such a Great Lord, flows intoxicated, like the waters of the Ganges. ਬਿਨਵੰਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਦਾਸੁ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਤੇਰੀ ਚਾਲ ਸੁਹਾਵੀ ਮਧੁਰਾੜੀ ਬਾਣੀ ॥੮॥੨॥ Binavanth Naanak Dhaas Har Kaa Thaeree Chaal Suhaavee Madhhuraarree Baanee ||8||2|| Prays Nanak, I am Your slave, O Lord; Your walk is so graceful, and Your speech is so sweet. ||8||2|| ਵਡਹੰਸ (ਮਃ ੧) ਛੰਤ (੨) ੮:੬ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੬੭ ਪੰ. ੧੩ Raag Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev The same shabad mentions that true understanding of the form of God only comes by contemplating the Guru, otherwise God is unfathomable: ਵਡੇ ਮੇਰੇ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਅਲਖ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥ Vaddae Maerae Saahibaa Alakh Apaaraa || O my Great Lord and Master, You are unfathomable and infinite. ਕਿਉ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਉ ਬੇਨੰਤੀ ਹਉ ਆਖਿ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ॥ Kio Kar Karo Baenanthee Ho Aakh N Jaanaa || How should I make and offer my prayer? I do not know what to say. ਨਦਰਿ ਕਰਹਿ ਤਾ ਸਾਚੁ ਪਛਾਣਾ ॥ Nadhar Karehi Thaa Saach Pashhaanaa || If You bless me with Your Glance of Grace, I realize the Truth. ਸਾਚੋ ਪਛਾਣਾ ਤਾਮਿ ਤੇਰਾ ਜਾਮਿ ਆਪਿ ਬੁਝਾਵਹੇ ॥ Saacho Pashhaanaa Thaam Thaeraa Jaam Aap Bujhaavehae || Only then do I come to realize the Truth, when You Yourself instruct me. ਦੂਖ ਭੂਖ ਸੰਸਾਰਿ ਕੀਏ ਸਹਸਾ ਏਹੁ ਚੁਕਾਵਹੇ ॥ Dhookh Bhookh Sansaar Keeeae Sehasaa Eaehu Chukaavehae || The pain and hunger of the world are Your making; dispel this doubt. ਬਿਨਵੰਤਿ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਜਾਇ ਸਹਸਾ ਬੁਝੈ ਗੁਰ ਬੀਚਾਰਾ ॥ Binavanth Naanak Jaae Sehasaa Bujhai Gur Beechaaraa || Prays Nanak, ones skepticism is taken away, when he understands the Guru's wisdom. ਵਡਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਹੈ ਆਪਿ ਅਲਖ ਅਪਾਰਾ ॥੬॥ Vaddaa Saahib Hai Aap Alakh Apaaraa ||6|| The Great Lord Master is unfathomable and infinite. ||6|| ਵਡਹੰਸ (ਮਃ ੧) ਛੰਤ (੨) ੬:੭ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੫੬੭ ਪੰ. ੮ Raag Vadhans Guru Nanak Dev Portraying God in the form of a man: ਬਾਗੇ ਕਾਪੜ ਬੋਲੈ ਬੈਣ ॥ Baagae Kaaparr Bolai Bain || You wear white clothes, and speak sweet words. ਲੰਮਾ ਨਕੁ ਕਾਲੇ ਤੇਰੇ ਨੈਣ ॥ Lanmaa Nak Kaalae Thaerae Nain || Your nose is sharp, and your eyes are black. ਕਬਹੂੰ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਦੇਖਿਆ ਭੈਣ ॥੧॥ Kabehoon Saahib Dhaekhiaa Bhain ||1|| Have you ever seen your Lord and Master, O sister? ||1|| ਮਲਾਰ (ਮਃ ੧) (੯) ੧:੩ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੧੨੫੭ ਪੰ. ੭ Raag Malar Guru Nanak Dev God is both formless and formed, absorbed within the Creation: ਰਾਗੁ ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਦੁਪਦੇ ਘਰੁ ੮ Raag Bilaaval Mehalaa 5 Dhupadhae Ghar 8 Raag Bilaaval, Fifth Mehl, Du-Padas, Eighth House: ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ (ਮਃ ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅੰਗ ੮੨੭ Ang ViewVerse View ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ Ik Oankaar Sathigur Prasaadh || ਮੈ ਨਾਹੀ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ Mai Naahee Prabh Sabh Kishh Thaeraa || I am nothing, God; everything is Yours. ਈਘੈ ਨਿਰਗੁਨ ਊਘੈ ਸਰਗੁਨ ਕੇਲ ਕਰਤ ਬਿਚਿ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਮੇਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Eeghai Niragun Ooghai Saragun Kael Karath Bich Suaamee Maeraa ||1|| Rehaao || Here, You are formless; there, You are with form. You play within, O my Lord and Master. ||1||Pause|| ਨਗਰ ਮਹਿ ਆਪਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਫੁਨਿ ਆਪਨ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਮੇਰੇ ਕੋ ਸਗਲ ਬਸੇਰਾ ॥ Nagar Mehi Aap Baahar Fun Aapan Prabh Maerae Ko Sagal Basaeraa || You exist within the city, and beyond it as well; O my God, You are everywhere. ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਰਾਜਨੁ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਰਾਇਆ ਕਹ ਕਹ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਕਹ ਕਹ ਚੇਰਾ ॥੧॥ Aapae Hee Raajan Aapae Hee Raaeiaa Keh Keh Thaakur Keh Keh Chaeraa ||1|| You Yourself are the King, and You Yourself are the subject. In one place, You are the Lord and Master, and in another place, You are the slave. ||1|| ਕਾ ਕਉ ਦੁਰਾਉ ਕਾ ਸਿਉ ਬਲਬੰਚਾ ਜਹ ਜਹ ਪੇਖਉ ਤਹ ਤਹ ਨੇਰਾ ॥ Kaa Ko Dhuraao Kaa Sio Balabanchaa Jeh Jeh Paekho Theh Theh Naeraa || From whom should I hide? Whom should I try to deceive? Wherever I look, I see Him near at hand. ਸਾਧ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟਿਓ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਿਲਿ ਸਾਗਰ ਬੂੰਦ ਨਹੀ ਅਨ ਹੇਰਾ ॥੨॥੧॥੧੧੭॥ Saadhh Moorath Gur Bhaettiou Naanak Mil Saagar Boondh Nehee An Haeraa ||2||1||117|| I have met with Guru Nanak, the Embodiment of the Holy Saints. When the drop of water merges into the ocean, it cannot be distinguished as separate again. ||2||1||117|| ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧੭) ੨:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੮੨੭ ਪੰ. ੧੮ Raag Bilaaval Guru Arjan Dev In the end, one can only see the essence of God via his Name: ਕਾਇਆ ਨਗਰ ਮਹਿ ਰਾਮ ਰਸੁ ਊਤਮੁ ਕਿਉ ਪਾਈਐ ਉਪਦੇਸੁ ਜਨ ਕਰਹੁ ॥ Kaaeiaa Nagar Mehi Raam Ras Ootham Kio Paaeeai Oupadhaes Jan Karahu || Within the body-village is the Lord's supreme, sublime essence. How can I obtain it? Teach me, O humble Saints. ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਿ ਸਫਲ ਹਰਿ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਰਸੁ ਪੀਅਹੁ ॥੨॥ Sathigur Saev Safal Har Dharasan Mil Anmrith Har Ras Peeahu ||2|| Serving the True Guru, you shall obtain the Fruitful Vision of the Lord's Darshan; meeting Him, drink in the ambrosial essence of the Lord's Nectar. ||2|| ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਮੀਠਾ ਹਰਿ ਸੰਤਹੁ ਚਾਖਿ ਦਿਖਹੁ ॥ Har Har Naam Anmrith Har Meethaa Har Santhahu Chaakh Dhikhahu || The Ambrosial Name of the Lord, Har, Har, is so sweet; O Saints of the Lord, taste it, and see. ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ (ਮਃ ੪) (੪) ੩:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੮੦੦ ਪੰ. ੨ Raag Bilaaval Guru Ram Das
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    Hey everyone, I appreciate all the replies. It has been quite helpful and also clarifies for me when I read that God has form, but is formless in the same line. Thank you all for helping this make sense to me! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh -I.
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    That's all true. However... Your full time job is Simran, and "work" is just one of the places you are, part of the time. No matter where you work it's going to take time. Keep it up. Die while still alive and cross the world ocean. Anything is fine in your path just don't hide from the world entirely.
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    quite simply, the modern definition of dating is not compatible with grihast dharam.
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    What accusations did @BhForce make towards you? also hes right. Talk to your parents and depending on your gender find a solution to how youre going to find a mate. It doesmt have to be a totalitarian method but an egalitarian one. Worl with your parents if they’re understanding. And the criteria are the ones bhaji outlined above
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    Just simply a fantastic answer, whether from a spiritual perspective or even as a healthy human perspective.
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    It's good that you're asking. It's obvious that you must not have any proper grounding in Sikh history, otherwise you would not wonder how people get married in the Sikh panth. By the way, are you a Sikh? If so, it's strange that you're asking how you're supposed to get married without dating. You get married in the same way your parents got married, or their parents. The Gurmat way of getting married is when you're old enough to marry, they find someone suitable, and you get married. There are variations on that, you'll likely want to meet and talk with the prospective marriage partner, and so on, but that's basically it. By "suitable" I mean someone who, in your parents estimation and experience, is someone who is responsible, educated, employed, and also attractive. And from a good family with a good reputation. Plus who follows Gurmat (to whatever extent that you do). I.e., if you're amritdhari, he/she should be amritdhari. Or keshadhari/keshadhari. Or mona Sikh/mona Sikh. If you have all of those items checked, it's very likely the marriage will succeed. If you're missing one of those, the marriage will very likely fail. "Love marriages" are usually missing one of those items. Sitting around in a bar hitting on girls is not the Gurmat way of getting married. I don't have time to do a huge writeup right now, but suffice to say that someone who starts his journey towards marriage by flirting with any pretty young thing that walks past him is also someone who will have a wandering eye after marriage. Secondly, the dating culture automatically leads to an arms race of sexualizing young women as they try to use lower and lower necklines, higher and higher hemlines, and tighter and tighter clothes to attract the attention of potential dating mates. Finally, we're called to treat women as mothers, sisters, and daughters, which is the furthest thing from the mindset of a dater, someone who's on the prowl. The Gurmat way of marriage is simply the way that our Gurus got married, the way they spent 200 years on this earth teaching us how to live like Gurmukhs. Note: this does not mean you have to marry someone who wears a chola with a 1 ft dumalla turban. If you're lax in Sikhi observance, that's fine, just have your parents find someone who is at the same level as you.
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    Learn Shaster vidya, that's all I can say. Learn Martial arts, anything. Just take precautions. That was the order of Mahakaal and that's the only way we'll reach anywhere. Don't take this the wrong way (im not aiming this at you at all, this is a general note) but the Kirpans typically worn are just like the Janyu (sacred thread) worn by the hindus now (this was the bachan of a Sant if I recall right), that's why we need to adapt a bit more.
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    Sri Guru Nanak dev ji did not encourage family life. Guru Nanak dev ji showed through family life a soul can merge with Vaheguru. People were teaching by being a householder you can't merge with God. This belief was rejected by Sri Guru Nanak dev ji. You are a lucky soul to be able to come to the only Guru who can carry you across to Vaheguru. Forget what you learned from others and only learn from the Guru and the Guru will bless you with his grace.
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    Why would it be?Read the granths from the early 1900s of dasam Granth and in each and every one the story that I wrote will be in it... Each prophet approved of dusht Daman Ji... All the Devi devtas approve of guru sahib... Everybody is at the gurus feet... All Sants,mahapurks, prophets, bhagats etc which lines? The dasam Granth lines? Firstly they are called TUKS! Have some goddamn respect for gurbani...
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    What was I implying??? You tell me...Baba hari Singh has more gyan than 100 percent of the users on this forum... What makes his katha so laugh worthy? He is doing katha at a taksali gurduwara in ontario canada... Why don't the taksalis laugh him off the stage???
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    In my opinion jesus is NOT a prophet but a sant... For example sant baba nand Singh came to spread the teachings of guru nanak dev Ji and is not a guru... Same thing with jesus he came to try to spread the word of god but couldn't cause the world was too cruel( according to bhai vir Singh's chamtkar) and people started believing in him even though he wanted people to follow god...
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    "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." John 14:28 Who is the father? The father is akaal purkh/god etc... The bible has been changed more times than any other scripture either adding or removing tuks or twisting them... For example look at the puratan bibles that were written in Aramaic or Hebrew and they are much different than today's version...
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    Not in one place in Sri dasam Granth did it even say the name of jesus... Show me the tuk where Jesus Christ is written in Sri dasam Granth...
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    Jesus belevied in vaheguru/god... The Jehovah's witnesses believe that jesus was not god... Some tuks in the bible are actually misinterpreted or added on later.. For example the chapter in the bible called Romans was added by the roman government to scare the public in thinking the roman government is god's will... Sounds a lot like people who add stuff and misinterpret stuff in sikhi such as the RSS etc... The beliefs of sikhi are eternal.. It was from the start and will be to the end... For example Vishnu/shiv etc came to show the path of akaal purkh but they did not succeed.. Other devtas devis came but failed... They all were supposed to preach the same sikhi guru nanak dev Ji was preaching but the others failed either of egotistical reasons or other reasons... In bhai vir Singh Ji di kalghidar chamtkar jesus said to dusht Daman ji that he(which is referring to jesus) came into this world on a peace loving mission to spread the word about akaal purkh but that was not the case and the sword is now needed and you are the only one who could do it. Jesus lost hope in humanity from what he saw in the world according to bhai sahib Ji... I will try posting a photo or something up of that tract.. Jesus told sant baba harnam Singh rampur khere wale that he hope all his followers who follow Christianity follow the path of guru nanak dev Ji... Mohammed told sant Ji that guru nanak dev Ji achieved what nobody else could in this world but the Sikhs of guru nanak dev Ji don't take full advantage of it... This is available in sant Ji's book se khanehiya.. In my opinion jesus was not god but a a saint or sant of that time... He went to India for many years to do Bhagti as well...
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    "He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."Luke 22:36 Why would jesus not wear a sword if he instructed it to his followers? Regarding him wearing a turban: "Did Jesus and his apostles ever wear turbans? Yes, they did. Studying the original Greek manuscripts we can see the practice of "wrapping & tying One's Head with materials" is encouraged for important spiritual purposes. This can be seen in the Book of Ephesians. In Ephesians 6 the word Helmet is used. The original Greek word here is perikephalaia. Perikephalaia is related to perikeimai, a Greek word meaning "tie around". Perikephalaia is the original helmet, a helmet constructed of fabrics which are wrapped around ones head in layers bound to the skull, securely fashioned, allowing for quick movements. Another opinion It is never directly mentioned in the four Gospels, although it was the mode of dress for Jews as accounted in Exodus 28:3-5: "Tell all the skilled men to whom I have given wisdom in such matters that they are to make garments for Aaron, for his consecration, so he may serve me as priest. These are the garments they are to make: a breastpiece, an ephod, a robe, a woven tunic, a turban and a sash. They are to make these sacred garments for your brother Aaron and his sons, so they may serve me as priests. Have them use gold, and blue, purple and scarlet yarn, and fine linen." For further references look up: Job 29:13-15 Zechariah 3:4-10 Revelation 19:12 "
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    What is this hate for jesus??? Jesus wore a Sri sahib, kept his hair, wore a paagh etc... He was a sikh! I know I'm gonna get grilled lol Also read kalghidhar chamtkar by bhai vir Singh it will broaden your mindset... Dusht Daman data was accepted by many avatars such as shiva, Krishna, Mohamed, etc... It is also written that JESUS(oh no I said his name!!!) told him that dusht Daman Data's path is right.. Who are we to criticize??? Why would mahapurks such as sant baba harnam Singh rampur khere wale have Darshan of Mohammad, bhrigu rishi and JESUS(oh no I said his name!!!)??? Get over this jesus Hating trip..
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    Dear Singh Jee, whatever quotations you have written above, it is one of the most ignorant and rubbish information written by anyone(not you obviously). It is all false ...al manmat. Christ was the Light of the world, a giver of eternal life, through the Holy Name or Naam or Shabad... And all this is contradictory of taking away lives, which is the task of lesser entities, such as "yam doots"... And the task of Jesus, was that of a Gurmukh,the Son, to awaken us, and show us the way to the Father, through His Simran. Then the other point, let no one remain deluded, that Christ will ever come back sometime in the same body ... it is against Nature. When our very Guru sahibans or the Bhagat Janas, had to appoint a Successor to carry on with the sacred task of awakenenig the Souls in the Light of Shabad, how can that One God Lord Akal Purukh, change His views for Christ? It is all a fantasy nonsense of the foolish manmukhs, who spread their heavy dark agyanta among the folks, though they may have acheieved degrees in religious literature ... It is the duty of each one of us, to cut from the roots all this rubbish. We are blessed by Him, that with the aid of the wisdom of the Bani, we become mentally and emotionally balanced, thus be able to shed the Light of one unchangeable Universal Truth : Waheguru Akal Purukh. Sat Sree Akal.
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    Most major religions offer apocalyptic predictions featuring their enraged Messiah / Prophet returning to Earth to smite the evildoers and the unbelievers. Muslims believe the Imam Mahdi, the prophesied redeemer of Islam, will rule the world for a few decades. But it'll be cool to see them all return.
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    but also don't get confused with abrahamic God term. Use the nirguna sarguna concept of gurbani
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    Yes. The excellent response by @MisterrSingh Also, Sikhi promotes Sanyog through crossing the world ocean, not hiding in a cave on a mountain next to the ocean. More like escaping through Maya not escaping to the outskirts of Maya.
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