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  1. 5 points
    Not to rain on your parade, but Baba Binod Singh was married; Nawab Kapur Singh was married; Baba Jassa Singh Ji was married- how do these modern day nangs, you mention, compare to those past Gursikhs then?
  2. 4 points
    Describing Santa's and Zaila's threesome with Indra now are we? Is that what was happening when the Akal Takhat was under heavy fire in June '84?
  3. 4 points
    Guru Hargobind to Guru Gobind Singh Ji (except Guru Harkrishan Ji) all led armies, yet also led a ghristi life. It’s very much possible to balance Saint and Soldier lifestyle. The argument that to be a leader you need to give up family life has been debunked all throughout Sikh history.
  4. 4 points
    Did they? Or is this another nang myth like obese-e-qaum Santa defended the panth in '84 and didn't bend over for Indra.
  5. 4 points
    What’s the reason the Jathedar has to be unmarried? That doesn’t make sense, Sikhi doesn’t advocate celibacy and embraces the family life.
  6. 4 points
    Don't digress from the topic at hand. I asked him as to why past Jathedars married and why these modern day Nangs refuse to marry outright. Not picking on only Balbiro Nang, but also Jogindra and Prema as well.
  7. 3 points
    Except fighting for the defense of the Panth.
  8. 3 points
    You, <banned word filter activated> Bob and horny Kamal are all one and the same.
  9. 3 points
    How long did it take him to do that though? It was only when he saw an opportunity to promote himself at the expense of the Badals that he crawled to the Takhat. Nangs continually harp the anti-SGPC/Akali line, yet their great jathedar crawled to these very same institutes for forgiveness.
  10. 3 points
    The above pangtee refer to "Hari Jan". Before you jump the gun in defending Santa Sio as "Hari Jan", understand who exactly SatGuroo has called a a "Hari Jan" : ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਜਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਜਪੈ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਭਗਤੁ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਨਹੀ ਛਪੈ ॥ Hari Jan jaaps naam 24/7 Hari Jan never hides If Santa Sio (as Jatheydaar..and as what his followers call him as "panth patshah"- so called) was truly a Hari Jan with 24/7 naam kamae, its unlikely any force in the world could have made him bend to Indhira. Secondly, as Jathedaar of guru ki fauj, we don't know where he was during and after when Sri Darbar Sahib was under attack. Many Sikhs turned their back on the Panth in 1984, but Santa Sio as not only remained dormant. He betrayed panth by bowing to Indhira . What does Gurbani say of a person like this? ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸੰਕਟਵੈ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਭਜੈ ॥ If the servant runs away when his master(Satguroo) is in trouble, ਚਿਰੰਕਾਲ ਨ ਜੀਵੈ ਦੋਊ ਕੁਲ ਲਜੈ ॥੧॥ he will not have a long life, and he brings shame to all his family. ||1|| Santa Sio's jivan in panth ended when Panth declared him as tankhaiya. There is no sin in his ninda , neither was a "Hari Jan" in anyway.
  11. 3 points
    Kaurs back in the day, then, must have hidden in holes in the grounds? The Gurus, too, must have been tied under their family problems. The only ones not tied down, it seems, then must be all these nangs you mention and obese-al-qaum Santa.
  12. 3 points
    What seva? Killing each other? Bending over for the GOI? Attacking fellow Sikhs? Ripping off amateur wannabes in the UK? Soliciting with prostitutes whilst claiming Sarbloh Bibek?
  13. 3 points
    Familial neglection? Don't see much difference between the nangs and ascetics then.
  14. 3 points
    Why would you want to marry into a family that has such ridged views anyways? If someone judges you because you went to another country to study, then they aren’t worth your time. The impressions of others don’t mean anything, it’s all about the Guru.
  15. 2 points
    Hello, I am new to Sikhism, but have immersed myself a lot and do morning Nitnem and Rehras Sahib and Kirtan Sohila consistently, as well as Simran once or twice a day. I am not at the point where I am keeping Kesh, or wearing a turban - although I would like to eventually, but will take my fiance some time to accept that... but, I have been sort of wearing a Karas. I like the idea of having something that is a constant reminder of my relationship with Waheguru and a reminder to follow the path when temptations arise. I have a traditional Karas, but the smallest size I can get over my hand is very large on my wrist, as I have small wrists, and is cumbersome and awkward at work - and I work a lot with my hands (in the medical profession). I have been looking for plain, steel bangles with clasps, although the smallest ones I can find still seem a little large on me. Are opened, cuffed steel bangles acceptable? I mean, anything would be acceptable for the purpose I want it for which is to be a reminder for myself of the path I have committed to and want to adhere to, but want to get the opinions of others, or to see if others have been in similar situations and how they remedied it. Currently I wear a wood bead prayer bracelet that I have from my longstanding time as a Buddhist. Thanks! Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh -I.
  16. 2 points
    Nihang Witch Hunt? LoL, oh come on? Your going to do better than that if you’re going to defend a traditionalist sect that is dwindling in numbers and desperately trying to search for a way to be relevant in the modern age. Instead of sensationalizing this as a “witch hunt” just counter his arguements and move on. When you refuse to engage in a discussion, it’s inevetable that people will side with him or pressure you.
  17. 2 points
    The path of the nihang is kashatri way. They are ready for dharam yudh. The jathedar’s family is the fauj and they have to give up their old lifestyle to become it.
  18. 2 points
    The feet licking traitor is rotting in hell with his master Indra waiting for his shameless supporters to give him company.
  19. 1 point
    Waheguru Ji, Taking my leave from this forum (indefinitely) due to finishing my studies and moving back to Kaanada to continue further research there in my field. Wanna thank the many people on this forum for everything I learned and for everyone I bickered with Special thanks to Simran Penji for being so nicer to everyone and being so motherly, special thanks to MrDoaba for being my partner in our joint efforts to corrupt the sikh youth (Jai Mata Di!), to JFKLondon penji for being a regular and actually teaching me a bit with her posts, to SIngh12345678 for being someone who knows what the context of a joke is, for JSinghnz for showing that even our good old special people in society play an important part (im just kidding, dont execute me by guillotine) and thanks also to SINGH bhaji for bring all of these people together.
  20. 1 point
    Thanks, that makes me feel better. Most mornings I just listen to the banis, but a couple mornings each week I read along while I listen. -I.
  21. 1 point
    I always find it interesting from a psychological viewpoint when one is so far up another’s, or, in this case, a collectives arse to the point where they can most probably taste the Dabur hair oil...the collective being the Dal Panth here, until alas...the tables have turned, kachera drops, and cheeks are spread for further ramming; the accuser who shouts “Nang” quite evidently becomes the “Nang” themselves. This, beyond a shadow of a doubt, leads to repressed anger as can be seen in this thread as well as sounding like a stroke victim speaking gibberish elsewhere on the interwebs. And then they say so many Nihangs are mentally unstable...OHH EM GEE...I rather disrespectfully disagree. Akaaaaaaaaaaluuhh!
  22. 1 point
    Clean, yes. You are right, what I meant is they have made it look too modern, taken away rustic character
  23. 1 point
    No, sorry, I meant airport to Bal Leela and Gurdwara Harmandir Sahib Patna.
  24. 1 point
    The airport from Delhi to Patna is 20-30 minutes.
  25. 1 point
    No point in arguing with 13-mirch. He is just on a nihang witch hunt and i cant do or say anything that will make him happy.
  26. 1 point
  27. 1 point
    Balbir is married to a moni, not mona. If he was married to a mona, that would mean he is gay.
  28. 1 point
    Santa sinh was not even humble. Forget about being the lord servant.
  29. 1 point
    Do whatever you think is best. Like I said before only you can decide on what to do as you will know the situation better than anybody else. Whatever decision you make, I hope it goes ok, good luck. And don’t worry.
  30. 1 point
  31. 1 point
    It’s all about self control and being with the right sangat. If you have friends that don’t drink or do drugs clubs and all that, then you’ll be ok. If your own town does it, then do it at home, then you get the benefits of no bills expenses etc and you may feel safer. London is a busy city and it depends on where you live now. Will you be able to cope with the shift?
  32. 1 point
    It also says that whoever is jathedar of budha dal that they have to be unmarried, but balbir is married to a wife who cuts her hair. So he just broke that maryada and nullified his position of jathedari
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  34. 1 point
    ਸੱਚਖੰਡ ਵਾਸੀ ਅਕਾਲੀ ਨਿਹੰਗ ਬਾਬਾ ਸੰਤਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਜੀ ੯੬ ਕਰੋੜੀ ਨੂੰ ਲੱਖ ਲੱਖ ਪ੍ਰਣਾਮ!! N.B. If you don't like the above...IDGAF.
  35. 1 point
    Santu traitor is called "baba santa Singh" now! Interesting
  36. 1 point
    I agree with this approach and putting them in touch with local knowledgeable Gursikhs, failing that ask them to join a Sikh Forum. Certainly try and convince them to stop being engrossed and brainwashed by the clever use of language (fake pleasantries/rhetoric). Ultimately, they will make up their own minds based on what's destined.
  37. 0 points
    Don't call it a "traditional sect". Just don't.
  38. 0 points
    This was when baba santa singh ji went to akal thakat sahib
  39. 0 points
    But did he not come back to akal thakat to accept his tankah? So your point is unvalid. If baba thakur singh ji said that baba santa singh ji was a sant then i take his word for it
  40. 0 points
    Some nihangs in the chakarvarti dal who are constantly on the move around in Punjab have dedicated their life for the seva of others. When I was in the dal, they said that people are always tied under their family problems, and having a family would make it harder for them as their wife cannot come into the chakaravrti dal while she’s pregnant as it would be too hard for her to move every three days, therefore they remain unmarried so they can freely do their seva without any problems.
  41. 0 points
    And they gave up their ghristi life. You cannot be a ghristi to be jathedar of budha dal.
  42. 0 points
    Well said my brother, you have made me see things differently. I agree that even those who been labelled sell outs did more and gave more than I ever could. Zaffarwal - I agree 100%. He was stuck in Switzerland on his ones and was pretty much f#cked. Of course he got the sangarsh in his heart, he's beem around a lot of the morcheh in the last few years. Sohan - you say bittu did the damage in 92, but wasn't bittu sohans chamcha? Also if I remeber correctly it was bittu who had labh Singh switch on sadhu? But them I have heard bittu did labh Singh over as well? Santokh kala - ex btfk who switched I think and Gill Is in Congress now? What about manjit aka bhai Amrik singhs brother? He was apparently bought for a maruti car and two hotels? Does anyone know what happened to 'vanchiri' aka the one who had baba Manochahal done? One thing brother, each guy paid a massive price, even bittu, I'm neither a fan or dislike him, but he's given a lot for the sangarsh
  43. 0 points
    both you brothers are probs the main knowledge banks on the movement in this forum and whether i agree or not with either of you based on my knowledge, it is important we have these discussions so that reality of the movement can be shared and upcoming generations can learn from it. regards to you chatanga, yeah you do seem pro dhumma and chauhan, i get the whole dhumma lot are keeping the missionaries at bay and your explanation for chauhan going back to punjab. however, i am firm beleiver of there not being smoke without a fire and obvs there must be something behind the views on chauhan? Khoon - bro i have never heard the chaheru popping sakira theory off, however i have heard that sakira and baba manochahal had a bust up and came close to having it out. Kaunke wanting pooran azaadi thats another new one to me, i actually got family members who knew him well but have never mentioned that. one thing iv learnt, most kharkoos/shaheeds reality is a lot different that the jeevaniya we read and there was lot of in fighting that led to the collapse. face it, most of these were young lads, in a very f*cked up situation in punjab, led by sell outs like sohan sio and who quite clearly had personal issues with each other aswell. it was this same josh that shook the whole of india, but the same josh that led to their downfall.
  44. 0 points
    This post is directed at those who think in this mentality. When a Sikh takes his life by jumping, he's a shaheed. But a Sikh who stands for Khalsa Panth Maryada is going against Sikh teachings according to you. Such lies will never stand to be true. From bhai Gurbaksh Singh voice as he stands on top of the water tank, he is not in the right state of mind. He's very upset, feels betrayed, and is feeling very desperate to do something. In such a state of panic he jumped. Now who's going to take care of his family? Will those who don't want the Khalsa Panth to defend victims with the sword, stand up and take care of bhai Gurbaksh Singh family? Not in a million years will these guys help bhai sahib family. But they want brownie points by saying he is shaheed, so their forum reputation stays high. Selfish people should never be listened too. I don't want any brother to take his life in this manner for the Khalsa Panth. This is not what Guru Gobind Singh ji has taught us. Satguru says stand up and speak as Bhai Sahib was doing. If someone attacks then defend. If someone hurts another then provide justice to the victim. There are people out their and on this forum who want Sikhs to just off themselves. They feel happy when Sikhs off themselves and disguise it by calling him shaheed. Don't ever fall for their psychopathic agenda.
  45. 0 points
    The true current Jathedar of Budha Dal is 96 krori Jathedar Baba Prem Singh ji. Baba Joginder Singh, in order to save his status has accepted the dog balbir as Jathedar, And has announced Joginder Singh as Jathedar of raqba. Baba prem Singh ji is the only Jathedar who is against balbir and just a couple months back Baba Bahadur singh ji who as the meet Jathedar with baba prem Singh ji was shot dead by balbirs nangs and they are now resting in sachkand. However amidst all of this Raqbe vale Jathedar and Nanded vale Jathedar are still close friends and baba Joginder Singh ji went to the funeral of baba Bahadur Singh ji. 🙏🏼 It’s just balbir the d**k creating commotion in the Panth. Here are some pics of raqbe vale and Nanded Jathedar together: true Jathedar is the mahapurakh on the right in both pics with the aad Chand on their dumalla. Sachkhand vasi shaheed baba Bahadur singh ji is the mahapurakh set as my profile pic ਸ੍ਰੀਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂਜੀਕੀਫਤਿਹ ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ । ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ । ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ । ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ । ੴ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਿਹ । ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ।ਸਹਾਇ । ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ।
  46. 0 points
    ਅਉਰੁ ਕੋਈ ਨਿੰਦ ਕਰੈ ਹਰਿ ਜਨ ਕੀ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਤਾ ਕਾ ਕਹਿਆ ਇਕੁ ਤਿਲੁ ਨਹੀ ਮਾਨੈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥If someone slanders the humble servant of the Lord, God does not believe even a tiny bit of what he says. ||1||Pause||
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