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And where are you on a scale of 1-10 on following puran maryada of sri guru nanak dev ji? Are you a better gursikh then jagmeet singh? According to gurbani are you beautiful or ugly?

VJKK VJKF Sangat Ji, I've been reading some ithaas (modern) and you can't read about modern ithaas without coming across 1984. I started watching a few videos and one thing led to another and I came across this one video which I can say blew my mind, at the very least. A bit of backstory to this video before I add the part which I found the most staggering Ji. A swami/yogi meets Sant Ji and all the sangat with Sant Ji and they talk for a bit and then the swami/yogi decided to take his leave about 5 minutes later. Please bear in mind the video quality isn't great (audio) so not everything that happens in this video is crystal clear Ji. However, after everyone gets up something is said/agreed between the swami and Sant Ji and a fortune telling yogi sits in front of Sant Ji and tried to tell his future and things that have happened in his past. She says at the age of 8, Sant Ji had an experience in his life that led him to be the leader he is today and when this was translated to Sant Ji in Punjabi, they shook their head and said that it was not true. Of course, bad move. Anyway, Sant Ji laughs off a few attempts of hers and then themselves do a bachan and said "Tell her, that before the age of 13 years old she wasn't doing the fortune telling that she is today". When this was translated to the yogi in English the yogi smiled and agreed and Sant Ji laughed and went onto explain how Ridhi-Sidhi are against gurmat and how her trying to do this is not the way of Sikhi and backs this up with a line from bani by Kabeer Ji, which unfortunately I could not hear properly. This absolutely blew my mind. I had to pinch myself a few times to truly believe what I had just seen. The way it happened and just seeing Sant Ji in chardikala giving the yogis just a taste of the power of bhagti was truly out of this world and my heart is still pounding from this. I'll leave the video link so you can all watch the video and also see it for yourselves Ji. Sant Ji's Bachan is said at 37:48 minutes into the video Ji. I do have one benti, Sangat Ji. Please if someone can translate Sant Ji's exact words of their Bachan as they say it in Punjabi it would be greatly, greatly appreciated Ji. I myself understand Punjabi but due to the audio quality I was unable to totally make out what their exact words were Ji. Maaf Karna for anything I may have said Ji. Here is the video of one of the greatest Sikhs of our panth there has ever been Ji. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3j9cVmx8FkI Vaheguru Ji.

You've yet to provide any definition. You have nindya me about ten times in this forum though. How you think I used skin color to add legitimacy to that definition I'm not sure. Come at me with something of substance bruh. Wannabe little <banned word filter activated>. Better off with women in panj pyare than your punk <banned word filter activated>. ?

The Sakhi was Guru Nanak Dev Ji and Bhai Mardana Ji both came to a village where the people were really rather horrible to them, so Guru Sahib blessed them to always keep their roots there. When they came to another village Guru Sahib and Bhai Sahib Ji were treated with alot of respect and love. But afterwards Guru Sahib cursed them to get uprooted and scattered. When Bhai Sahib asked why Guru Ji did this, Guru Ji told him he wanted the evil people to remain in one place so they couldn't spread and infect the world with their evil. But good people will spread goodness wherever they go, so he wanted the people of this village to spread goodness. That's from memory so i dunno the exact specifics so Bhul Chuk Maf Karni.

An old thread but just been thinking how quiet it is in punjab on thr sikh rights and justice front, you would think since the badals are now out the picture, the sikh activists behind the sarbat khalsa would get moving again now the sikh butchers (congress) are back in control. A few notable points that come to mind: 1. The sikh killing congress are quite firmly in control of punjab. 2. Badal Dal in freefall 3. Still no closer to unhatching the planners behind the ang ripping of sggs mahraj across punjab 2-3 years ago 4. Congress have recently dropped sedition charges against the front liners and jathedars related to the last two attempts of arranging sarbat khalse 5. akali dal amritsar, baba daduwal and co shtum on biannual sarbat khalse.. all the issues they raised are still there though..... hmmmmmm???? Sounds like the likes of akali dal amritsar, baba daduwal and co have acomplished what they wanted hence no talk of future sarbat khalse. Stinks of a dodgy deal with congress and these fake sikh leaders especially (4), were they doing the bidding for congress all along???? The important kaumi issue (3) seems to have been "forgotten" by akali dal amritsar, baba daduwal and co, or was (3) just a convenient excuse for them to achieve (1) & (2). Can't trust anybody at the sikh political top table. Hopefully the world sikh parliament gets off the ground as diaspora sikh politics is more cohesive, less uncorrupted and not as pendu backward as punjabs sikh politics.. maybe this will lead to reformation of some kind of regular sarbat khalsa type gatherings to bring focus to actual issues and in turn addressing them. Basically posted this to see if anybody else smells some rats in amongst; akali dal amritsar, baba daduwal and co??????

and you are a patit as you seem have to have ZERO pyar, satkar or nimrata judging by your comment. If getting with a 'patit' is such a paap, then why dont you stop chasing money? aint that against baani aswell?

I was able to read up on the controversy regarding the issue and appreciate the well stated, respectful points made by veer ji @InderjitS in pm. Really my krodh aimed at @Akalifauj doesn't have anything to do with women's role in panj pyare. The best arguments for allowing it I heard are that it isn't prohibited by Gurbani and men's role at the time were heavily influenced by societal norms of the time. The best argument against is that in the years following the creation of the panj pyare, before the death of Guru Gobind Singh Ji, they were not included. Shukria. I appreciate the education.

No brother not questioning anything about ur rehit.. Was hoping to help u realize what u are doing and maybe spark some introspection. Obviously didnt work, Chalo wat can one say other then Waheguru Bhul chuk maaf.

I very much appreciate that veer ji. I can search it on here too momentarily.

This topic has been done to death, will pm you when I get the chance, but there are a few reasons.

Especially if you include the second half of the statement yes. I'd take a real warrior female over some wanna be fudhu into battle any day. I met a female nihang in passing a few years back. Her entire bearing was martial as it gets. I'd have her watching my back all day any day. That's my personal thoughts. I'm not learned enough about things to offer you much of a Gurbani/Rehit sort of answer. Why don't you feel they should?

Santa was a sell out and kicked out of the Panth as a result. Real Nihangs like Brahma and co represented, but then the so called Tarna Dal, Harivelan jathedars i dont know if they did much? I know there are quite a few nihangs who gave shaheediyah but as a whole the 'tyar baar tyar ladliya fauja' as a whole didnt do much

Manmohan Singh belongs to that small coterie of essentially keshadhari Hindus who would sell their own mothers to get power. This coterie included Zail Singh, Khushwant Singh and the Badals etc. Manmohan Singh served a useful purpose to the Hindu ruling elite in that having a visible 'Sikh' could be used to effectively deny that Sikhs were being discriminated against. I am in total agreement with you that we need to present MS in terms that the west understand. The best example would be Vidkun Quisling. a traitor who was used and allowed himself to be used by the Nazis to rule occupied Norway during WW2. His name is now a byword for traitor. He was executed by the Norway govt in 1945. Another example are those British the most prominent being the former King Edward VIII who is said to have stated before the Blitz began that peace between Britain and Germany would come once Britain was effectively bombed by Germany. Traitors exist in all nations and among all communities. The most effective response to those who use Manmohan Singh as an example of Sikhs being treated fairly in India is ask whether the other party is aware that had Hitler invaded Britain in 1940 there would literally have been thousands of British people such as the members of Mosely's British union of fascists who numbered over over 20000 in 1939 who would betrayed their country to be a part of Hitler's occupation government.

The Akal Takht which Santa built with blood money was demolished by Sikh sangat and rebuilt

He was the biggest sell out and traitor who licked the feet of Indra and did whatever she asked him to do.

The only type of meat I eat is Lamb thats Jhatkad by a Rehatdhari Nihang Singh using a Puratan Sarbloh Kirpan...

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i know your white skin provides you many privileges in the world but here you just showed how the white skin shows how ignorant you really are. I thought 3ho were ignorant and arrogant. You top them man. Providing sgpc definition. Might as well let women into punj pyare ooo wait they already done it. Jagmeet Singh is a patit and so is his wife.

No, it's not just you. The "confused bootha", as you so humorously put it, is perhaps the dumbest thing on this site. Here's why: The "love" icon is for when you agree with a post. Now, if you agree with a post, it's better to just "like" the post than to have to post "Great post, man!". If you agree with a post, there's basically nothing more to say. But if you disagree with a post, then you should post why. That's what makes for a good discussion. Just throwing up a "confused bootha" is the most coward thing you could do, and the admin has enabled it. People need to contact @S1ngh about it.

Haha, I'll accept it from you!

You are so casteist.....

That too, there have been a few cases of "like" abuse, too. I mean, there are well-written posts with links to Gurbani, gur-itihas, Youtubes of famous kathakaars, or wheatever, and they get a confused bootha. Meanwhile, two-sentence posts of utter garbage get 5 likes and a big heart symbol in no time whatsoever? It seems clear there is organized "liking" by sockpuppet accounts going on. We all disagree with each other on Sikhsangat, but this is one issue (no confused bootha + no anonymous likes) that we all need to agree and push the admin on.

If u feel dhumma is mukhi then in my opinion the answer to ur question is No he is neither sant or brahmgiani.. anyone to argue otherwise must be wearing rose tinted chushmey. (thought id answer as this q seems to have been side stepped in previous responses). If you consider somebody else to be the mukhi, then possibly yes depending on who see the mukhi to be..

look what I stumbled upon http://sikhissues.blogspot.co.uk/2018/

Nindo Nindo.. Nindo Moko Log Nindo… Criticise me… Oh Criticise me All you people… please criticize me. The great Kabir ji.

Baba Santa singh was because he took Indira Gandhi money so your saying you should he built akaal thakth sahib quickly but then baba thakur singh did Kar sewa and built it properly and also baba Santa singh used to get money from government to hit singhs who fought after 1984 so he is a sellout like the others

Yet another jagmeet singh nit picking wedding thread, can we please play this type of golli dandi game when we were in little bit comfortable position politically, in media, last time i've checked GOI tried to <banned word filter activated> sabotage canadians sikhs relations with liberal party and no doubt indirectly attacked ndp leader-jagmeet singh in the recent fiasco and very well influence canadian elections in 2019 by driving hindu and vast indo canadian votes to conservatives and create a fear and parnioa among white masses how liberals pandering are hurting bigger INDIA-CANADA relations. There are currently whopping 135 articles in canadian press against phantom sikh extremism in canada in one week span. Here is the list. Even sunny hundal is working around clock to refute some of them. https://www.facebook.com/notes/gurjiwan-singh/canadian-media-and-sikh-extremism-february-2018/10155547313673924/ Wake up!

I know who you are referring to and i dont agree they were terrorists. Read a book called soft target and maybe then you will reassess. To anyone who is replying, this thread isnt about Air India 329 in 1985, so dont bother bringing that up on this thread (that topic has been done on multiple times before)

Finally someone who is looking at the bigger picture, instead of letting his own insecurities and jelousy get the better of him.

@Akalifauj Dude. She'd have to be Amritdhari to be patit. Make up your mind already. So either way you cut it, what you're doing is nindya. It's either slander she isn't amritdhari or slander she's patit. So you pick which burden you're choosing to carry. You're also in no position to declare anyone patit. My advice to you is get yourself in order.

Welcome to Kalyug, enjoy your stay.

I am hardly a sycophant of Jagsaw Singh, a recent example being his vile comments towards me here. But your protestations would have more effect if you would actually quote what you object to, and attempt to refute it, rather than make a nebulous charge of "lying".

Cookie parshad?! I am sold.

UNCOUTH GUYS LIKE YOU CANNOT EVEN UNDERSTAND SIMPLE LANGUAGE AND SHOWS YOUR UPBRINGING. USE THIS GUTTER LANGUAGE WITH YOUR FAMILY WHO ARE USED TO IT.

Very interesting, thank you!

The bhagat Singh is a very shady person. Reading his views, I wouldn't buy his art because it will only give him more funds to promote his manmat on sikhi.

Woah. Gurbani interpretation is twisted in a split second. And you are the one questioning my rehat. Too funny. I guess now the liberal extremists have changed the meaning of nindo to criticise.

Sorry I could't help but push the confused bootha even though I totally agree with your post.

Learn the definition of patit. She and now jagmeet Singh are patit.

Why would anyone want to marry a patit woman in the first place. According to Gurbani she is an ugly woman. Only insecure men want these type of woman in and are scared around these women. He loved a patit woman. When the insecure boys can't find anything to say, the other person is jealous. Jealous of what, he married a patit woman who dances around revealing her body and has no sense of Gurbani. She sings filthy Punjabi music for fun. Only a fool would marry such a woman. Smart men who don't care about religion will mess around with these type of girls and give them the boot once they are bored. Learn the definition of nindiya (slander). Also he's a patit now.