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I like how you're back for your eight hour shift having ignored the massive amount of evidence and explanation that people have been kind enough to give you. I also like how you not only ignore the gifts of information given to you but avoid questions like, why is your photo made to look like it's you? Other people pick photos that clearly are not meant to be them, but you went to great lengths to pick a photo to make you look "real", that clearly isn't you.

What planet are you on? This kind of dumb thinking by Sikh females will guarantee they will be some ar5ehole's sex slave in the advent of any conflict. Do you not get the simple fact that Guru Gobind Singh ji (Guru Nanak in their tenth form) instructed Singh's to have bandooks? Is that too hard for you to understand?

What am I supposed to make of the fact that our people, especially the amritdhari section, are this clueless about their own religion/heritage that they haven't got a clue about how their ancestors were armed. We haven't even touched the issue of astaars like cannons either. Shasternaam mala's section on bandooks is the largest one within. Is there any coming back from this level of cluelessness? Would most amritdharis even carry firearms if they could? I doubt it - look at the US Sikhs.

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I feel machine guns are now an oppressed minority. Better start a twitter hashtag.

Man, our community really needs to cut down on the extremes. Our woman turn into mellow dramatic dramaqueens and our guys seem to look for the most moronic thing to do in situations like this. Reminds me of the guy that started speeding and crashed his car because his muslim girlfriend dumped his ass.

Homophobic!

Vaheguru ji ka kalsa, vaheguru ji ga fateh! I'm glad your enjoyed the share, it's kind of weird to talk about. First thing I woke up to was some professional angry troll, It'll be really nice to enjoy these videos.

I agree. It's not a word I use in my everyday life, but this guy who got caught trying to explode his parents is the definition of one of "those."

translation from an old post. we can hear this in kirtan form by Balbir Singh tiro tufango bado raam jango dhamakhdhaar aniar kamand kor-rhaa panj sastar parvaan tiro = lance/spear, tufango = rifle, bado raam jango = revolver/pistol dhamakhdhaar aniar = bow and barbed arrow kamand kor-rhaa = shastar similar to golaa, panj shastar parvaan = these five shastar are accepted/necessary (for sikhs to keep on them)

And that is a VERY VERY dangerous situation to be in for obvious reasons. Especially in certain places that is dominated by other competing aggressive communities. That must be it. What a greedy, selfish b**tard. Couldn't just walk off and live his life, tried to get it all.

Talk about getting the wrong end of soti! lol If we look at more contemporary sources, it looks like the kirpan was only one of 5 shasters that a Khalsa was expected to carry; amongst which was a gun. I think colonialism played a big part in diluting the original instructions because the colonists didn't want fully armed Singhs bowling about in their highly profitable 'annexed' territory for obvious reasons. So being truly tyar baar tyar eventually dwindled down to a small 'symbolic' item. It's hard not to come to this conclusion given all the evidence.

indeed, he did not write poof 'Khalistanis'

Bro I don't think you read that right. Not "poof" in the derogatory way, rather in the onomatopoeic sense. Like poof, and Khalistan was created. Well I think so anyway.

The F word is apt in this particular situation. He went to a grammar school, too. We live in a post-educated society, lol.

That is what I would think, but I read an article on sikhnet, when I went to read the daily hukam, that was written by a kaur saying that women can't do seva there. http://www.sikhnet.com/news/i-am-banned-harmandir-sahib-seva-op-ed

Physically and mentally I would say the primary effects I've noticed are less anger, less fear, less depression, When I am on deployments it's sometimes hard to avoid meat, and when I've "relapsed" in those situations, each of those times was followed by a withdrawl-like symptom of irrational anger and frustration. I've also noticed that my body instantly maintains a healthier weight. That also is because I was saved from alcohol addiction by Vaeheguru Ji. After a head injury I was poisoning myself with the stuff to cope, and it reduced me to an unhealthy and depressed state. I sincerely believe it took the hand of something greater than myself to get clear of it, and again I had the example of the Khalsa to follow. Spiritually I feel healthier without meat as well. When I make food now, I think to myself nothing had to suffer and die for this, I didn't kill anything this time. When I eat it feels like when I would take communion as a child, that I was partaking in something spiritually fulfilling. When I eat this food I can feel that it is provided to me out of love by the creator, and I feel in better company. I was born in 1982, shortly before 1984. From my early childhood my mother would tell me two stories: One about Kitty Genovese being murdered in the middle of New York City and nobody coming to her aid. She would also tell me about the Khalsa and the attack on Harminder Sahib. She said that were I ever in a situation like that, I should do anything I could to help who needed it, like the Khalsa would, and to remember what happened to them and...I hate to say especially, but especially that if they ever needed help I would be better of dying with them than idly watching, that it would be a sin to watch something like that and not help. So I made a practice of looking out for people, which was typified by success. Mainly I'd verbally de-escelate things, and when attacked I always had what was needed. However one night while tending bar at a teahouse on the ground floor of a high rise downtown, a boy ran past the large window front. He was bleeding from all over, ear half hanging off, and four rather large, methed out, tattooed wanna be white gang bangers were chasing him with weapons. He collapsed on the front porch of the bar. Everyone in the bar told me not to go outside, but I told my female co-worker to call the police (knowing full well they'd be there a half hour or hour later) and put down the knife I was holding. I felt in that situation it would escalate things, and there was no room for it to get worse, In retrospect I should have taken it, or had a gun lol. When I got outside the young man was losing consciousness and his arm was visibly broken, it was already turning all sorts of wrong colors from where he'd been blocking their attacks. So I ran out and said "Hey guys, I don't know what this is about, but you've clearly won, he can't take anymore, it's over." This at first worked, they backed off for a moment and looked like they were going to leave, but then the biggest one thought he'd run back and try and stomp the guys unconscious head. I was pretty sure that would kill him, so I physically stepped in between them and repeated again "No, he's had enough"... and this is when things got trippy. It's the Internet so why not just say it like it is... I could see a fifth figure in the background, and all of a sudden it was like he and the other four were connected, by lines, like you see when constellations are drawn, and above them was this thing, that they all connected to, like it was driving them. I went to intercept this giant drugged out dude, I swung early, and he wound up bowling into me and latching on. I'm smart enough not to get caught in the middle usually (I've scrapped bullies my whole life, and spent ten years living as uchi deshi in Aikido Dojos in the USA and Japan) but I was stuck that time. This was the first time I'd stepped out of simple fighting and into something much worse. It didn't take long for his three friends to start lashing me open from behind with metal batons. I didn't feel the blows, they sounded like someone was banging on the walls of a metal shed I was in. I struggled briefly, then this peace took over me and I just stopped. I didn't lose consciousness or go down, I could just hear the batons wet pounding any my skull crunching. When I stopped fighting my point of view moved outside my body and I was looking down on the violence from above. My female co-worker, came out screaming at them like an irish banshee. I'm not sure if it was a combination of that and perhaps that head wounds bleed like no other and they couldn't stomach the sight of it anymore. Really I feel like I my life was spared by Vaheguru. Since you know...I'm smart, as they were leaving I spouted off some stuff like "Really, there's four of you guys and you have to hit me from behind with weapons?" They ran off, and left their car there. The cops came some ridiculous time after, hundreds of people, including six roided out security guards from the bar next door just stood there. The cops made me wait for an ambulance for an hour even though the hospital is four blocks from the bar and I could see it. They promised up and down they'd get the dudes, and they didn't. The security cameras didn't work, I had to pester a guy my family knows in internal affairs at the PD for months just for them to put a detective on it, and when he found and questioned them, they admit to the fight and said I had it coming cause I was talking S***. Which apparently where I'm from is enough for the cops to be like cool bro no charges then. To add insult to injury, the dudes frequented the biker bar across the street from my house, and were gang affiliated with the tattoo shop in my neighborhood... just my luck, and I'd call the PD and say the guys that attacked me are right across the street, and the cops wouldn't send anyone. So over time these guys realize they "know me", and they start threatening to shoot up my house (little did they know I was right behind the door, lights out, 30 30 in hand) and start following me around in their cars and pantomiming drive bys, or pantomime shanking me prison style. By this time, the hyper-vigilance and "ptsd" had set in. I was drinking heavily, foolishly, to medicate the physical and emotional pain. So I started carrying a .38 and going to all the worst bars I knew these dudes would frequent and I got the word out. I told all their associates that I had given the cops a chance to do their job and they hadn't and that I wasn't playing anymore and that I'd be seeing them for sure and that I had no mixed intentions about what I was going to do when I found them. Again Vaheguru interceded. Two of them went to prison, one wound up dead and one fled and I didn't have to murder anyone. The effects of the encounter lasted a long long time. Most people would just tell me I was stupid for even intervening in the first place. So I comforted myself initially with two things. One, knowing that if I hadn't done something I could have never felt alright about myself let alone looked that boy's mother in the face if he'd been murdered right in front of me. Two, that I wasn't a fool, that a shaheed or sant sipai would have done the same thing. It was at this time my interest in sikhi grew from respect to practice, and I turned to the naam for relief from my addiction, pain and depression. It wasn't until I re-read the police reports some time later, that I realized everyone reported four assailants and that I saw five, and of course nobody else saw the...thing above them. As far as I can tell that fifth guy wasn't even "there", the one that was in the background and never interacted physically. I guess to speak to our troll, yes study gutka, it's wonderful. Yes, chant the Naam, nothing is better. You really really might want to consider a firearm just in case though. If I had one with me that day, I'd have saved myself a lot of pain and drama, one way or the other. It's not every time you get spared, and even if you are, it's not without consequence. Since I already over-shared and popped the cork on weird talk, might as well share this too... When I started to find more comfort in Gurbani and the Naam, and my health started to improve, I had a dream that I was in a restaurant with my deceased grandfather. As is typical of dead people in my dreams, he smiled and his eyes sparkled but he wouldn't speak. I grabbed up wine from an empty table and began drinking it and telling him about my life struggles, and he'd smile and nod. There was a khalsa family eating at the a nearby table, and they said hello to my grandfather. The father figure of their family said to my grandfather "Watch this" and he said Sat Sri Akal, so I responded Sat Sri Akal, then he said "Waheguru" and I replied "Waheguru ji ga kalsa, Waheguru ji ga fateh" and he said to my granfather "See how well trained he is, why don't you let us have him?" My grandfather nodded and that was the lat time I saw him in my dreams that I remember. I can't count the number of times I'd have been done for spiritually or physically without the Kirpa of Maharaaj. I am truly a wretched fool many times over who is sustained I think by Kirpa alone. After all of this I joined the Air Force, thinking that I'd be more connected or enfranchised in my community. I didn't get any earthly justice and I thought maybe if I was more affiliated that I'd be better off, but that isn't true really. I've met some truly excellent people in the Air Force, but there is a really large contingent of people who don't live the Air Force core values at all, so it's kind of a let down in that regard, and it was another lesson not to look for solutions in people. I figured if I was going to associate with anyone might as well be select solid individuals only, and as far as groups go I don't really connect with them any more unless it's the Aikidoka in the Dojo or Sikhs in my community that I'm always happy to see. Well...ask me what time it is I guess I'll tell you how the watch was made. Hopefully that's interesting to read if nothing else.

Absolutely. Thanks to the example set by the Guru Sahiban, the Khalsa, and writings of SIkh Dr's I've stopped eating it. I've realized the huge impact the hormones have on us, and that we are not meant to eat it physically, and also that it is cruel. I was a fool to eat it, and am thankful to the Sangat for helping me. I am still a fool and am thankful for gurbani, and simran. I am thankful to be able to come here and surround myself with wiser people than myself. I've been chanting the naam, reading my daily hukam, and studying japji for some time now, all of which has benefit me immensely. I still struggle with anger and attachment but as my focus on vaheguru increases my pain and anger decrease. I carry my own "kirpan" and by the good example of the Khalsa seek to love and protect anyone who needs it, which I've almost paid the final bodily price for before. I am like a stray dog, that comes to the gurus house, having been so well treated I am loyal to my master. My master who I cannot even be a sacrifice to. When the fear and darkness seem to be falling upon me I chant the naam and release my head as if it has been cut off for the guru. It has come to be my only comfort.

Yeah. That made me chuckle. I was just making sure it wasn't some super horrible joke that you had to edit out or something that I missed. When I used to eat meat, I'd order a cheeseburger, and then with a dead serious face ask the waiter to make sure only kosher ingredients were used.

Is the joke he's referring to about the earrings? I'm confused. I think we all agree the Guru Sahiban are worthy of our respect. If it was the joke about the earring stand, I thought it was funny, but I have all the class of a stray dog. I think when we are free of the five vices we will look at this maya and laugh and laugh. Everything we took so seriously, how offended we were on behalf of our own fragile egos. This place is too ugly not to be a big joke in the end. I also think whether it's the Guru Sahiban, or Buddah, or Christ, that they must have a really good sense of humor and some thick skin. I bet they spend half their time laughing at us and the other half shaking their heads. I guess it's fair to say some people thought it was funny and some didn't, and if we're upset about it, it's an opportunity to release some damas and chant the naam and chuckle.

Wow amazing. Guru Sahib fought without guns. Hope no one attacks you on the street man, I would love to see you "love" them to death. Ghandi Style.

Funny doaba ant buster:) My point about bana is why is he in slavery outfit, while attempting to justify Khalsa Nishan today, is sign of slavery? To reply of post about being tearful, it is tears of bairaag over seperation from Guru Pita Maharaj for oneself and entire creation, not realising it is reaching Sehaj, after overcoming feelings of each of us being seperate from each other atey Akal Purakh, that Anand of Khalsa Raj will be realised!

Bani guru guru hai bani... is definitely in the SGGS.

ਵਿਚਿ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਸੇਵ ਕਮਾਈਐ ॥ In the midst of this world, do seva, ਤਾ ਦਰਗਹ ਬੈਸਣੁ ਪਾਈਐ ॥ and you shall be given a place of honor in the Court of the Lord. ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਾਹ ਲੁਡਾਈਐ ॥੪॥੧॥੩੩॥ Says Nanak, swing your arms in joy! ||4||1||33|| https://gurbaninow.com/shabad/86/1085 ਅਠਸਠਿ ਤੀਰਥ ਸਗਲ ਪੁੰਨ ਜੀਅ ਦਇਆ ਪਰਵਾਨੁ ॥ Be kind to all beings-this is more meritorious than bathing at the sixty-eight sacred shrines of pilgrimage and the giving of charity. https://gurbaninow.com/shabad/358/5537 By doing Seva (service) & being Dayalu (compassionate) you are following teachings of Gurbani. By doing your job diligently & honestly you are actually promoting Sikhi. Majority of people hate & turn their backs on Religion due to corrupt Priestly class & Religious leaders. Doing good deeds you are helping restore their faith in Almighty & humanity. So keep up the good work.

The Sikh pant? You mean this? You might consider learning how to spell before you come on here telling Sikhs that they don't know anything. Yeah, I'm sure you are furious that Sikhs believe that Guru Nanak ji is higher than your beloved Prophet Mohammed. So touchy about being asked which religion, are we? I don't belong to any branch of the RSS or any other anti-Sikh organization for that matter. If you're not a sheep, you must be weasel since you're not willing to identify which of the 72 mazhabs of the Ummah you belong to. I'm not the one who made this statement originally, but I don't really see what the big deal is, either. He said "symbol". You should be able to understand that. It is often said that "ਪਾਪਾਂ ਦੀ ਬੇੜੀ ਭਰ ਕੇ ਡੁੱਬਦੀ ਹੈ" (oh, should I put that into Arabic script so you can read it, akh?). So the execution of Guru Tegh Bahadur ji represented the summit of evil by Aurangzeb, sometime after the decline of his empire began. It's not the 5 ਭਈਏ, you dolt! How dare you insult the Guru's beloved 5 Singhs in that way. In Sikhism, a major emphasis is put on humility. The point is that if God can humble Himself, man can also. This was also to cement the principle of rule by the 5. ਗੁਰੁ ਚੇਲਾ ਚੇਲਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਕਰਿ ਚੋਜ ਵਿਡਾਣੈ। ਸੋ ਗੁਰੂ ਸੋਈ ਸਿਖ ਹੈ ਜੋਤੀ ਜੋਤਿ ਸਮਾਣੈ। ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੧੩ ਪਉੜੀ ੧ ਪੰ. ੪ (Did they teach you how to read Gurmukhi in your RSS/jihadi training camp?) When, indeed. There is no such book as the "Surah Prakash Granth". Get your head out of the Koran for just a second so you can make a convincing show of being a Sikh. Oh, you mean your jihadi training camp never took you on a field trip to a Gurdwara before letting you loose? If they had, you'd know what it is. ਸੂਰਜ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸ਼ is the granth of which ਕਥਾ is done every evening in every large gurdwara in the world.

You're the one saying they killed themselves, not us. I'm glad you feel very triggered. Would you like me to point you to the nearest safe space? they have everything you'll need to combat the anguish you feel. Maybe they'll give you a "crush the patriarchy" sticker if you're extra good. You caught me. I'm an RSS agent, I'm working directly with Narendra Modhi to take down sikh theology for good. I think you need to read a book once in a while, After the martyrdom of Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji, Aurangzeb spent quite a while fending off and fighting rebellion after rebellion. His own inadequacies and oppressive regime lead to the decline of the Mughal empire. Have you ever read Bhai Nand Laal Ji's writings, or even heard the Saying wahoo wahoo gobind singh aape gur chela. He created the Khalsa and then got initiated into it, he also gave authority to the Panj. 1843, But wait, RSS have a time machine. They used it to go back in time and write this Granth, its all a ploy I tell you. The fact that you've never heard of it really does show how little you actually know about anything sikh related. That Granth is where all of our history comes from, You name it and its in there. Along with a myriad of explanations on Sikh theology.

mistranslated verse done by someone by accident. He was telling us that those who call themselves God would fall into hell.

Let the dog bark. He's obviously not here with a genuine desire to learn. His head is stuck too far up his behind.

Before any of us engages further with you, you need to state what you claim to be: Muslim, Christian, Hindu, atheist, or whatever? Then we can have a conversation on that basis.

Well, Sikhs don't merely believe Gurus had God's jot, but that they are (present tense) God. And also that the Gurus were not a roop of God like the avatars were (like Ram, Krishan). Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhindrawale states quite clearly that Sri Ram had 16 powers, but the powers of Guru Nanak Dev ji are limitless.

Guestguestguest is so confused! !!!! No offensive posts from guests should be allowed. I am surprised that raag mala, dasam granth etc arennot allowed to be debated.... yet we can slander sri Guru Har Krishan Jis contribution to sikhi to our hearts content with profane language referring to the death and suicide of the Gurus. Truly these posts have been the lowest I have ever read anywhere. Very very sad. Very very bad. ...

Dasam Granth is proof of that. Along side various scriptures written by Sikhs in the 18th/19th century. But of course, all those people are wrong. You're 100% right, I mean what would they know? Maha Kavi Sankokh Singh Ji spent 40 years researching and gathering all the information, but of course he decided to become a Hindu and write it all about Hinduism, I mean let's just discard it and throw away all our history. That was the order of the 5 Pyare you dolt, They told Guru Sahib he had to survive and hide. Which he did. Are you going to argue against Gurbani that calls Guru Nanak Dev Ji through to Guru Arjun Dev Ji as being God? wow. I see how it is, you think you know better than Gurbani. This alone speaks volumes of how little and narrow minded your brain is. Firstly the giving of the head was an excuse to orchestrate the fall of the Mughal empire, in-fact that marked a turning point. Suraj Prakash Granth. If you want to argue against it, argue with the Historian who compiled it, I would love to see your pHD and research into puratan Sikh sources. The smallpox was an EXCUSE to pass on the Gurghaddi, for a simpleton like you that's a difficult thing to understand I presume. It's hilarious that, this simple explanation blows your mind. Will you now doubt that Baba Deep Singh Ji fought without his head? that Guru Nanak Dev Ji mad Mecca revolve? They encouraged the Nirgun worship of God but Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji outright even states Guru Nanak Dev Ji was God. ਗੁਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਦੇਵ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਰੂਪ ॥੮॥੧॥ ^ if you think that line is wrong and completely false then you may stop calling yourself a Sikh. Do you even know what it means? not the translation but have you actually done an in-depth study of it? Oh boy if I didn't know any better this is just Sukhvirk changing facades again. Mool Mantar addresses the Sargun AND Nirgun aspects of God. If believing that God resides in everything and everyone is Hinduism then please, you're in the wrong religion. Frankly every ancient text in Sikhism proclaims Guru Nanak Dev Ji was aap parmeshwar, but let me guess. All of them are wrong and you're right. Brahmgyan eluded the sikhs of old but somehow Guru Sahib has impart it onto you so you can help all us mere mortals.

That source is something I was aware of but have never seen, would be amazing if you could link it for me too. Preferably the chapter and so on, I'm not doubting your knowledge. I just wish to expand my own in this.

bro even Rig Veda told Brahmins that Kalyug and Eternal Avtar Guru will be named Nanak that after him will be ten Gurus the last being Munn = Silent ...if your own faith's writings don't put anything faith in you another's highest writings tell you he is the one full Avtar

Guru Nanak Dev Ji said he wasn't Bhai Lehna anymore But Guru Angad Dev Ji, he was merely another form of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Are you going to call him a liar? Gurbani also testifies to this. Pretty sure it was a willing sacrifice for the greater good. His mission was to demonstrate that Brahmgyan can come in any form and at any age. Guru Harkrishan Ji also cured thousands of people with smallpox, how stupid for you as a sikh to say they contracted it and had no power to stop it when he was actively purging it from everyone around him. The Guru Sahib's wives were incarnations of Adi-Shakti, I'll explain this concept to you since you'll have a heart attack and call it Brahmvaad. Adi-Shakti is the primal energy of Akaal Purkh, his power. The Sahibzaade were probably bhagats in previous lives. He never followed anything the mughals said? have you ever read Batiichtar Natek? Guru Sahib did as he pleased and that annoyed the mughals. Are you really this dense? Guru Sahib didn't visit one place and suddenly its all hell breaks loose. In-case you missed the memo he was arming sikhs, he had other things to contend to. Guru Sahib never even attempted to enter Harmandhir Sahib. So let's all reject all the old texts that atest to this. Let's reject all the Gurbani that even goes out and says "Gur Parmeshar eko jan" and countless other verses all stating that Satguru Ji was Akaal Purkh's avataar, all because some neo-liberal hippy who's never read into Gurbani says so. You can call me Hindu all you want. But you're the one peddling that God is separate from creation. So very christian. Come back to the table when you can actually understand the concepts of Sargun and Nirgun. Which are integral to Sikh philosophy.

The Spirit behind the forms was still Guru Nanak Dev Ji, why they came in 10 forms is something you should ask them Sargun/Nirgun principle. God exists as both Nirgun (without form, attribute etc) but also as Sargun (with forms e.g the universe). Bhai Lehna Ji was a hindu, Guru Angad Dev Ji was not. Guru Arjun Dev Ji disappeared into the Ravi river, as for SatGuru Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj, he merely had the executioner touch his mortal frame, the head simply fell off. Guru Harkrishan Ji finished his mission, hence why he allowed himself to contract smallpox. The whole universe, every living being is his child. Mool manter describes God in his Nirgun form til Gur Prasad. Then it also inputs God's sargun aspects as well. So it all fits perfectly.

Gurus are avtaars of God. God has taken many avtaars throughout the ages, but lets just focus on sikh gurus, as that's why we're here on the forum. You have to understand that God is NOT the physical body/kapra/shell of the Guru avtaar, he is quite simply the Avtaar himself, and will continue to come and go as one, as he wishes. I've seen these debates and confusions before and then sikhs start coming out with contradictions: such as how does mool mantar say he is ajooni? but at the same time God is everywhere and in everything, meaning that we are just as much God as the person next door!.... it goes on and on... Keeping it brief, I'm gonna suggest that we all keep a few rules in mind prior to raising questions. 1) Bani does NOT contradict. Never has and never will. It is the truth, and the Truth can never contradict itself. Even in a court of law, if the accused or a witness contradicts themselves, then the Judge sees the truth, if any, as being distorted. So, if you find yourself seeing some contradiction in gurbani, then it's your understanding that is at fault and not the truth. You need to work on yourself to gain more gyaan. 2) Remember that we are born manukhs. Goal is to get to Gobind by becoming gurmukhs. .. ਭਈ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਦੇਹੁਰੀਆ ॥ Bẖa▫ī parāpaṯ mānukẖ ḏehurī▫ā. This human body has been given to you.ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਮਿਲਣ ਕੀ ਇਹ ਤੇਰੀ ਬਰੀਆ ॥ Gobinḏ milaṇ kī ih ṯerī barī▫ā. This is your chance to meet the Lord of the Universe. What makes us Man-ukhs? ...simple set of equations given by an old member many years ago.... MAN= GOD + EGO(haumai) Man -(minus) EGO = GOD shed the 'I'(ego) and you are left with GOD. Gurus had No EGO, no 'I', Their physical shells is what we related to with our physical eyes, but their inner selves and messages were pure God, nirankaar himself. Dhan Guru Nanak tu heen Nirankaar. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

Quite astounding that you've never heard anyone say that Guru is God. Sikhs have always believed that until the new crop of 20th century "professors" came along to deny that fact in order to please their foreign masters. I didn't watch the whole video, but props to Bhai Jugraj Singh for stating basic Sikh theology, which is that Guru is God. If the Gurus were human beings (don't say "are"), then they are dead. Why follow what they say? They have no more authority than the average Joe.

gond Mahala 5 - ang 864 " Gur Parmeshvar eko jaan|| guru prmysru eyko jwxu] Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One. jo Tis Bhava soe parwan || rahao|| jo iqsu BwvY so prvwxu ]1]rhwau] Whatever pleases Him is acceptable and approved

Yes, I heard it for the first time and could not believe it. However gurbani clearly states Gur Nanak, Nanak har soe. SGGS Ang 864 The last line states Guru Nanak is God himself

Why does it matter? To Sikhs it doesn't matter what caste they married, those who say they married within their same castes were not there to witness it or prove it. End of the day the Guru's lead people out of living and thinking like subhuman dark practises and into the light through their love, wisdom and humanity.

Haha, I'm saying panENtheistic, not pantheistic. PanENtheism means Waheguru is the Universe, but is also greater than it. This is what Sikhi (I believe) says about Waheguru, it is the Universe, it is the Hukam, the law, but it is above this form. It is part of the Hukam. I'm not going to say Waheguru communicated with Guru Nanak Dev Ji to spread Sikhi, rather the Hukam was for Guru Nanak Dev Ji to spread Sikhi. Guru Nanak Dev Ji took it upon themselves to spread the truth in the form of Sikhi. I don't think Waheguru "gave" Japji Sahib to Guru Nanak Dev Ji. Rather, I think Japji Sahib comes from sach khand, a state where Guru Nanak Dev Ji was one with Waheguru. So it is divinely inspired, but I don't think Waheguru literally wrote it (but everything is Waheguru, so technically, Waheguru did do it). I reject the idea of prophets, I don't think Waheguru shoots down prophets and messengers to Earth like a post man. Waheguru will enlighten whoever needs to be enlightened. Karmi apo apni kai nerhe kai door - our actions are own, some are drawn closer, some go further away (according to their actions). If someone attempts to align with Waheguru, they will be enlightened. Whether the Universe is a living being? Well at one point, the Universe became conscious of itself. When it spawned us humans, it became aware of itself. We are not separate from creation. Waheguru is not separate from us. Perhaps Waheguru wanted beings to be aware of themselves. Sach khand are those people who realise Waheguru. I agree with you, bani does say there is no difference between Waheguru and the devotee.

But Panthiestic don't really accept the concept of a god that's beyond the universe. It's more the universe is god and that's it. Nothing wrong it :D If you want I can start now. True, Very true. But what my point was Guru Nanak not only experienced Waheguru but Waheguru assigned him the task of starting our faith. He also gave him Japji Sahib. In his autobiography Guru Gobind Singh Ji even mentions how Waheguru sent him down to extinguish evil. That;s why I believe Waheguru isn't just a force, but a conscious one.Obviously this is me being very simplistic, he's beyond words and I do apologize to waheguru for trying to describe him. Depends how you look at it. Waheguru has limitless forms. Creator,destroyer,sustainer,father,mother. I believe experiencing Waheguru is just the beginning. I may be wrong of course. Completely true. Might I turn your attention to a theory that the universe is a living being? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on it. also true. Many sikhs believe that the Spiritual realms described in Japji sahib are more like steps. But there is a school of thought that suggests they are actual physical realms as well. Obviously Waheguru is everywhere but at the same time are we really inclined to say what he can't and can do. My own interpretation of that was more like Sach Khand is the heart. Again not saying Waheguru has a heart but like sach Khand is that region where one's duality is abandoned completely and they merge with the lord. As a result that region is where Waheguru "resides" in a sense. If that makes sense. everything is within his Hukham, no one is outside of it :0 agree there completely.

Waheguru is not a human. How can it "think"? How can the all pervading One, how can the force in the bacteria, to the great elephant, the force driving the sun, the orbits of the planets, how can that One be anything like a human? How is it possible for us to understand how it works, how it acts? Panenthiestic is a better word to describe the concept of Waheguru. Waheguru is the Universe, it drives it. But Waheguru is beyond the Universe, it is above this manifestation. Everything is simply a "manifestation" of that One. When these things are destroyed, they simply return to the One. ਲੋਗਾ ਭਰਮਿ ਨ ਭੂਲਹੁ ਭਾਈ ॥ Logaa Bharam N Bhoolahu Bhaaee || O people, O Siblings, do not wander deluded by doubt. ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਖਲਕ ਖਲਕ ਮਹਿ ਖਾਲਿਕੁ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਸ੍ਰਬ ਠਾਂਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Khaalik Khalak Khalak Mehi Khaalik Poor Rehiou Srab Thaanee ||1|| Rehaao || The Creation is in the Creator, the Creator is in the Creation, totally pervading and permeating all places. ||1||Pause||

I disagree with some of the points made in this video. The issues "killing" Sikhi are far deeper and serious than these "problems". Sikh names. What is a Sikh name? Is Ishar, Gobind, Ram, Krishan, Kiran, Deep, Inder, along with many other formulaic names, Sikh names? Our Gurus had names from other traditions, Ram (the sovereign), Gobind (master of the Universe), Arjun (pure) all these names have roots in Sanskrit, Hindu traditions. Guru Gobind Singh Ji's sons, two had Punjabi names Ajit (victorious, unbeaten) and Jujhar (warrior). While the other Sahibzade had Persian names Zorawar (mighty, brave) and Fateh (victory). Are these "Sikh" names? How about Iqbal Singh? There are SIkh Iqbals, but you'll find more Muslim Iqbals. The "Sikh" names Jarnail and Karnail, they come from French words for general and colonel. They came with French soldiers who came to Punjab to fight in Maharaja Ranjit Singh's army. Are these valid "Sikh" names? Obviously there are some names which have a Sikh root. Any name with "Gur" can be said to be name inspired by Sikhi. There is a subset of authentic "Sikh" names, meaning Punjabi names that popped up in the genesis of Sikhi that relate to concepts in Sikhi. For example, any name with the prefix “Gur” (Gurbaksh, Gurpreet) relates to Guru. Obviously, for the vast majority of Sikhs, not everyone used these names. One notable Sikh that had such a name didn’t even go by it; Gurbaksh Singh being colloquially known as “Banda Singh Bahadur”. Some Muslims chose to change their names when they took Amrit like Ajmer Singh, but that was optional and done out of their own will. There are two "Sikh" names that every Sikh should use. Singh and Kaur are the only names mandated by our Guru, as long as a Sikh uses these names, what does it matter what their first name is? You can have an Arabic name like Kabir (great One) and be called Kabir Singh. You can have a Sanskrit name like Simran (rememberance) and be called Simran Kaur. Never heard anyone say the story of Chotte Sahibzade is scary. Why was the Chotte Sahibzade movie so successful? Many children went to watch the movie. Also, we don't mourn deaths. We celebrate death, we celebrate shaheedi. The shaheedis are celebrated in Punjab with fun fairs. It is not a sad thing that these brave souls did such inspiring things. Yes, we should remember our shaheeds. At Christmas, remind the children of the Sahibzade, give them a gift (if you give gifts for Christmas) but remind them of our Guru's sacrifice. The fact that some people don't remember our shaheeds points to a much bigger problem than "they will be scared". Sikhs don't know their own history. Many don't know how the sahibzade were Shaheed, many don't know why they were shaheed. Many don't even know HOW they were able to do the things they did. Lack of parchar among Sikhs, how many times is Kirtan just sung in our Gurdwaras without translations or a katha on the words? How much discussion happens in our Gurdwaras?

The Bhenji here is spot on. She's a role model to us all lol.

There's nothing in Gurbani that contradicts evolution, or any of science. But we believe that God is the universe, but the universe is just a manifestation of Waheguru, a part of his creation. Waheguru is also a separate divine being who is perfectly conscious and capable of thinking,creating,destroying. Waheguru is hard to describe in so little words but he is isn't just a word for the universe. So no Pantheistic would be wrong.

Well we best spend money and effort on doing parchar in India, rather than waste money on <banned word filter activated> projects. Like spending 2.5 million rupees on painting all the buildings at Anandpur Sahib white. What a waste of money, not only are we destroying our history, defacing historic buildings, but that money could be used for something to benefit the panth. Think of the drug deaddiction centres, schools, parchaar, seva of poor Sikhs that could be done with that money.