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    or maybe this is a BS flag planted a bit like the fake shastars and kanga of Guru Pita ji on the roadshow last summer , the ish hit the fan when the actual family who received the kanga said nah it's in our living room at home I mean they couldn't even get the machine stitch tension right ...
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    ਨਾਮਹੀਣ ਫਿਰਹਿ ਸੇ ਨਕਟੇ ਤਿਨ ਘਸਿ ਘਸਿ ਨਕ ਵਢਾਇਆ ॥੩॥ Naameheen Firehi Sae Nakattae Thin Ghas Ghas Nak Vadtaaeiaa ||3|| Those who lack the Naam, wander in shame; their noses are chopped off, bit by bit. ||3|| Raag Raamkali Sree Guru Ram Das Maharaj ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਖਿਆ ਜਾਤਿ ਨ ਹੋਤੀ ਤਉ ਅਕੁਲੀਣਿ ਰਹਤਉ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁ ਸਾਰੁ ॥ Roop N Raekhiaa Jaath N Hothee Tho Akuleen Rehatho Sabadh S Saar || When there was no form or shape or social class, then the Shabad, in its essence, resided in the unmanifest Lord. Raag Raamkali Guru Nanak Dev
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    Looking through historical paintings related to Punjab, in general, and Sikhs, in particular, I have encountered a turban style that looks like the patkas/keskis that small kids war but also has some similarities with dumallas. This style can be seen from very early Sikh paintings of the Gurus and also in late British paintings. The turban helmet of the Sikhs was also based on this style. I think that it stopped being used in the 1850s because the triangular shaped turban; that actually had developed as a cover for the smaller turbans; became immensely popular.
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    first can't use castor oil uncut need to thin it with another oil say sweet almond oil and you should use only a small proportion . Apply conditioner first whilst hair is dry for while before shower then twice wash with shampoo using lukewarm water leave the soap to act for longer . Can add apple cider vinegar to final cool rinse if it bothers you the cool water will seal moisture into hair
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    ਤੇਰਾ ਕੰਮ ਵੀ ਕਰਾਂ ਦੇਵਾਂਗੇ ਬਾਬਾ ਜੀ Brother, it's fine to voice your opinions, to scrutinise the Dal, but to repeatedly insult them and their followers is asking for it. There's a difference between being objective and a gobshite.
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    Shaheedi bagh gives nihang maryada, while main takhat gives sgpc maryada. Again amrit is amrit.
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    hanji, sehmat hai, natak sare jaane bandh karo!
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    Balle pharava. I say one thing and it's drama central. If he said what he did to a Nihang Singhs face, he'd get juttiya or worse.
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    My parents just told us straight up. That one of mayas tricks is kaam and touch/skin indre. Touch can feel good and trap you into going further. And kaam feels good at the moment but its the deadliest trap. It comes with huge worldly consequences. Such as STDs, loss of reputation, chance of pregnancy...etc. also ppl can easily manipulate you once ur in a kaamic relationship. Thats why some ppl dont leave abusive relationships, theres date rape, and sometimes grooming. The spirtual consequences are also massive. You lose the gunn of being jati sati. Remember being jati is for both men and women. Also one loses the minds steadiness, peacefulness when one falls into kaam. And kaam brings with it other vikaars such as krodh, ahankaar, partying, drinking etc. And there is that one shabad, An instant of Kaam, leads to years of residing in hell. So please do warn your children about it. Even western ppl do as it can lead kids astray. And tell them, if they like someone or thinking of getting.into a relationship, to let u know and u will get them married or let them date or watever. Also tell them sikhi believes in waiting after marriage
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    Cannot escape that easily. jk. Report the person's profile and posts for quickest action from moderatos/admins
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    Here's some random words, which are definitely 100% not in any particular order, off the top of my head: ਸੋਹਣੀਆਂ - beautiful, plural ਸਹੇਲੀਆਂ - girlfriends ਬੋਲਦੀਆਂ - speaking, plural ਕੌੜੀਆਂ - bitter/spicy ਗੱਲਾਂ - things ਬਾਤਾਂ - words ਲੱਗਦੀਆਂ - looks like, plural ਜਿਵੇਂ - as ਭੈੜੀਆਂ - bad ਸਾਲੀਆਂ - wifes sisters ਕੁੱਤੀਆਂ - female dogs ਭੌਂਕ ਦੀਆਂ - barks, they ਖਾਂਦੀਆਂ - eats, plural ਭਾਰੀਆਂ - heavy ਥੱਪੜਆਂ - slaps, plural ਵਧਾਈਆਂ - congratulations Hope that helps.
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    Are you always this serious? Or is joking "not the Sikh way" either? Stop derailing the thread with your Sikh ethics.
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    I just gave you some advice, im not trying to be your "baba ji", and its not my enlightenment, being respectful and not getting baited so easily is the Gurus enlightenment. I have no idea why you are bringing up namdhaari stuff in this thread, this is a completely different topic, and your trying to conflict issues to make things personal. To respond to your statement regarding Namdhaaris, I would rather not listen to Kirtan from Sikh pretenders because they have a history of changing Sikh canon and Gurbani to fit their agenda, and I dont have the time to constantly check to see if even the kirtan they are singing isnt from kachi bani. I have nothing against Namdhaaris as people, but they should just stop claiming to be Sikh, otherwise they should accept the Adh Siri Guru Granth Shaib Ji as the Guru and not their fake babas, and stop changing Sikhi to fit their agenda.
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    It doesn't matter if he insults others, you should insult him, thats not the Sikh way. If there is a problem, inform the moderators, respectfully tell him to stop, and move on.
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    I hope a Nihang Singh shoves a salotar up your arse one day Could you please try to be more respectful? Just make your point and move on, no need to personally attack people.
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    I hope a Nihang Singh shoves a salotar up your arse one day. With all the nindya you do, count on it. You never contribute anything to this forum except rhetoric and utter bakwaas. You once said: LOL!! You must have either been stoned when you wrote this or you're deluded. Nobody, I repeat nobody, has learnt anything from the nonsense you call your Gurbani contemplation no matter how many times you say Guru Sahib Kirpa. Do us a favour would ya...go and crawl back into what ever cesspool you reside in.
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    Budha Dal, Santa Singh and balbir Singh and their associates are very corrupt. During 1980s Santa Singh was making deals with indira Gandhi because he wanted to collect land and political power. Santa Singh stood by while Sri Akal Takht sahib was attacked all because he had deals with indira Gandhi. Many Gurdwaras and acres of land were taken by force by budha Dal because the india government backed budha Dal. All these fan clubs of budha Dal are being taken for a ride. They see a blue bana and a farla and the fan boys are going baba ji baba ji your are the best because I can't see past your fake ways.
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    Most of the youngsters might not know of Bhai Sahib (Old School Taksali), they performed so much kirtan seva regarding Dasam Pita. I had an original recording of this on cassette (which I think was better), still this is still a beauty. this is jeevan katha of Guru Gobind Singh Sahib - some in geet form Saka Chamkaur Sahib
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    Yes with their efforts, we are well and truly on the way to Khalsa Raaj.
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    Silly boy. Clearly the SGPC perfected some time travel technology, they went back in time and put it there. Though I will add, being called a Brahman here is like an SJW calling someone else a nazi.
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    All of you lot are brahmans, I want nothing to do with these Pujaris hanji they were undercover and carried out covert ops, clearly this standard was preserved in the correct manner compared to what you posted - the authentic look speaks volumes
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    Beautiful Images of Gurbani
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    Complete Shabad in beautful kirtan form.
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    I retract everything I said/did yesterday, err my OJ was spiked at a bar oh and I think this is the real deal, looks like its from the 19th century right!
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    Your keyboard seems to have malfunctioned. Please tell us the two missing letters. Thanks.
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    Waheguru ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji Ki fateh, Thankfully , The toronto gurdwarey committees are actually doing something right , they and other Canadian gurdwarey have put they heads together and banned entrance of ANY Indian Government officials to any gurdwara http://panthicspectrum.com/2018/01/01/indian-officials-suffer-major-setback-toronto-gurdwara/
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    nobody's hindu , rishis have their path, sadhus have their, mundhari theirs there are multiple paths which have been lumped together for convenience of manipulation . Even Guru Nanak Dev ji splits into specific groups ....it must matter ... Mata Sahib Kaur ji is so much more than Devi ji because she is pooran Brahamgiani so app Parmeshvar .
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    If I recall right the devi on the Nishan Sahibs wasn't Durga but just a representation of Adi-Shakti itself, rather than a certain Goddess it was simply just a form of Shakti that was put there. I believe some old manuscripts of Dasam Granth also have some pictures of Devi on it. If I recall right, Guru Sahib told us to wear the colour blue, so the question arises where the red is coming from. Wasn't red considered a big no no? especially after Baba Banda Singh Bahadur Ji's faction splitting off. Or am I getting confused again?
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    is this a windup or actually true? please post evidence, don't leave us guessing!
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    Iget what you are saying the paradox is intense but only is destroyed with GurKirpa ... bro if it didn't matter at all then why defend our sikhi from being submerged by the dominant faiths ? Why would Guru ji give orders to keep niraley...
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    then that makes zero sense we owe ZERO loyalty those divisions that enslaved humanity's minds for thousands of years , our panth is Tisar the third way.
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    sikhs did shastar namaskar and only praised Akal Purakh as Guru ji has said clearly ta hi Durga saaj ke Daintan da nas kariaya... we admired her fighting spirit but not to the extent of raising a standard to her .
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    The suryavanshi one was not the akali nihang one. Nihangs always stuck with blue. The suryavanshi one was used by maharaj ranjeet singh ji.
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    ThemorewepractisereadinglarivaartheeasieritbecomestoreadjustlikejoinedupEnglish
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    I'd suggest to take amrit where they will give you the official rehat for every single amritdhari. The maryada is flexible for everyone. The Khalsa panth itself decided to have it as official. If you are unable to find any amrit sanchar who gives the official rehat maryada you can take it from anywhere (not missionaries) and then you are always free to follow the Akal Takth maryada because it's minimum and every amritdhari should have it as minimum. You have a choice to follow the recommended (what you are told at the sanchar) or the minimum. If you want to look further into the maryada - http://old.sgpc.net/CDN/Sikh_Rehat_Maryada_English.pdf
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    Why is there a need for a Sikh organisation specialising in 'humanitarian crisis' when there are over 100 or more such organisations with multi-million pound budgets? What is the need for such an Sikh organisation which will duplicate the work of these other organisations? Is a few facebook posts and some newspaper and youtube coverage worth the lives of Sikhs who could have been helped had the Khalsa Aid funds been exclusively used for Sikhs. Khalsa Aid has over £2.5 million in the bank. If it chose to it could set up counseling centres in Punjab for the Punjabi farmers weighed down under debt. It could feed, clothe and educate EACH and EVERY Sikh orphan whose parents gave their lives of the Sikh cause and those whose parents were mercilessly butchered in Delhi. It could pay a pension to each family of the Shaheeds of 1984 and after. After this there would still be enough money to set up a few parchar centres to counter the parchar of the Christian missionaries so we wouldn't always hear negative stories of poor Sikhs being converted to Christianity. Imagine that, there is a Sikh who many like to project as some sort of diaspora Bhagat Puran Singh who has it in his hands to solve over 50% of the issues that plague the Sikhs of Punjab and yet he CHOOSES NOT TO. But I suppose that's the needs of the Sikhs of Punjab are not HUMANITARIAN ENOUGH for Ravi Singh. That kind of effort would only get publicity and goodwill in the Sikh community but he is hungry for publicity from non-Sikhs so Sikhs in need will need to wait until he comes around to them. A few months ago one of the KA organisers was off on a jaunt to the British Virgin Islands as if the British Govt which is annually gives billions in foreign aid would be negligent in providing aid to their own territories! Really these Khalsa Aid people need to spend some of their money in the banks and get some brain scans done! Sikh groups helping Sikhs have come about because some Sikhs realise that KA is taking the Sikhs for a ride and not helping Sikhs. It is only lately that KA has had to make some efforts in Punjab otherwise they would happily bypass Sikh issues. The issue here is that whereas other religions go out to help just their own adherents, we have stupid Sikhs like KA and United Sikhs also helping non-Sikhs. No non-Sikh organisation will help Sikhs and if it does then it will be for dubious reasons.
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    Veeray you're gonna use them as a stick to beat 'pappus'? The Sikhs of that generation were the biggest pappus and angrezi boot-lickers in the whole of the subcontinent. This the same generation of Sikhs that was so utterly loyal to the empire which scraped the Sikh nation off the face of the earth that they became worm food by the tens of thousands to preserve its existence. And you're gonna hold these men up as role models and paragons of 'character' and 'self-respect' for Sikhs today? No self-respecting Sikh would fight and die for the empire which destroyed the Khalsa Raj you allude to in your post. They had little self-respect, most of their sense of self-worth was based on the praise they got from their angrezi masters, particularly that manipulative 'martial race' nonsense, and they wagged their tails in gratitude for these cheap flatteries for decades. The letters to Brit officials from Sikh representatives of the time are so nauseating and syrupy that they should make us flush with shame/embarrassment. And look what their toadying antics got us. Nothing at all. They let themselves be played by the Brits, utterly. One of the most shameful eras in our qaum's history in my opinion, not one to get nostalgic over. Who cares what they would have had to say about Khalsa Aid? I think the opinion which should matter most to a Sikh is Maharaj's, as enshrined in Bani and the sakhiaan surrounding their lives, and it's my personal belief that Gurbani and the sakhiaan both ratify the work being done by Khalsa Aid. You will probably interpret them differently, but I am utterly convinced of this.
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    Maharaja Ranjit Singh made some mistakes which ensured that his kingdom did not last long after him and to be honest we have never recovered from his mistakes. It is unfortunate that the Maharaja was not born a decade earlier because when the British took over Delhi and started to make inroads towards the Satluj river, the Maharaja was still not well established in his rule and thus he had to relinquish some of the areas he had conquered in Malwa in 1809 under threat of war with the British. Had the British come a decade later or the Maharaja been born a decade before he would have subdued the Malwa area years before and the British would have faced a united Sikh kingdom rather than being given the golden opportunity to expand into Punjab through the fears of the Malwa Rajas for Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Rather than the Satluj, the border between the British and Maharaja Ranjit Singh's kingdom would have been the Yamuna and Ghaggar. Maharaja Ranjit Singh's secular policy while helping his secure his kingdom ensured that when the British won the first Anglo-Sikh war, they dealt not with a Sikh ruling elite but a mixed elite of couriers of various religions. Also because of his secular policy and not using the state machinery to propagate Sikhism is ensured that the Sikhs were a small minority in the kingdom rather than a significant minority or even a majority. One thing we have to understand is the the Muslim Jat and Rajput tribes although they like to claim that they became Muslim due to the preaching of the Sufis, the fact is that most became Muslim due to forcible conversion policy of Aurangzeb. So they had only been Muslim for 4-5 generations. Had the Maharaja used the state machinery for propagation of Sikhism among these tribes then it is possible that some may have come over to Sikhism. During the British times the Suddhi movement had brought many Rajput and other tribes back to Hinduism because even then in the 1920s these tribes though Muslim on paper were still using Brahmins as priest and still following many of the rites of Hinduism. This was also the case with the Muslim Jat and Rajput tribes in Punjab in the 1800s. The kingdom should have financed various schemes to bring the numerous lower castes into Sikhism. The other mistakes he made was farming out whole districts to rich administrators who would then pay the treasury a certain amount each year and would be responsible for the collection of the revenue. Such forms of administration do not allow these districts to become integrated into the kingdom and hence when war occurs with outside powers these administrators will look at their own interests rather than the interests of the state. In the same way rather than amalgamate Jammu into the kingdom he installed a corrupt and disloyal soldier of fortune as the Raja of Jammu who then betrayed the Sikhs during the Anglo-Sikh wars and in the end bought Kashmir valley from the British and became a Maharaja. Maharaja Ranjit Singh should have set up a well staffed and professional administrative and civil service to manage and integrate the different areas of his kingdom. The Maharaja's other mistake was not to nominate a strong successor. He knew that Kharak Singh would not be an able Maharaja and should instead have nominated his grandson Naunihal Singh as his successor during his lifetime. Perhaps if the Maharaja had not made the mistakes the Sikh kingdom would have survived into modern times and our national condition would not be such as it is today.
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    Total non-sequitur, I never suggested that Guru Granth Sahib and Muhammad exist on equal terms. Don't try and dodge the question by turning it around on me and putting words in my mouth. You said "Guru Sahib decided to help him [Bahadur Shah] because he knew he could teach a lesson to the Sikhs in the future." I pointed out to you that Guru Sahib makes no such claim in his own Bani, and that no itihaasic source makes such a claim either, rather they say that Guru Sahib helped Bahadur Shah in order to secure the religious rights of non-Muslims in his kingdom. So on what basis have you decided that this was Guru Sahib's motive for doing what he did? You have no right to say this.
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    The Dogras were the most immediate cause of the empire's downfall, but the fundamental cause for the collapse of the Sikh Kingdom was Ranjit Singh's fatal decision to make himself king of the Sikhs and replace the Khalsa's republicanism (Sarbat Khalsa, Gurmatta, Jathedari) with a system of absolutist monarchy which centralized all power in his hands - this had no place in a 'Sikh' nation. His miscalculation ensured that the kingdom would all but fall apart his death and be vulnerable to vultures, particularly in light of the uselessness of his heirs. I disagree veerji. This Sikh kingdom would never have become as powerful as it did if not for non-Sikhs. The Sikh Empire was so successful while Ranjit Singh was alive precisely because he managed to integrate and secure the loyalty of the Punjabi musalman who constituted most of his subjects - and thereby ensured economic productivity and public order. The Khalsa army of the Lahore durbar was also not just made up of Sikhs - all cavalry were Sikh, but virtually the whole of the artillery was Muslim, as was a significant portion of the infantry of the regular army (included Pathans, Punjabi Muslims and Gurkhas). Secondly if not for the induction of non-Sikh European officers into the Sikh army, it would never have relinquished its fixation with irregular cavalry or its revulsion at the idea of infantry. Without the innovations of these non-Sikhs, therefore, the Fauj would never have advanced to first rank among the armies of Asia. An army composed entirely of cavalry is fine when you're fighting a guerilla war, not so much when you're building and defending an empire against men with guns and artillery. Furthermore not all non-Sikhs in the kingdom were disloyal to the durbar, and not all Sikhs were loyal. The Muslims of Punjab routinely resisted the calls of the Afghans (and later, the mutineers of 1857) to join them in jihad against the infidel Sikhs. The Fakir brothers (Muslims) were loyal to Ranjit Singh's memory to the last, as were several of the other Hindu Dogra generals of the Khalsa army (Dogras are a race, not a family. It was one family of Dogras in particular which caused most of the trouble). And while there were good, loyal Sikh nobles such as the Attariwalas and the Nakkais, there were many more who were fickle and treacherous. Rani Jindaan was notoriously corrupt , as were the Sandhawalias, who murdered Sher Singh, the only successor of Ranjit Singh with even a shred of competence, by blowing him to pieces with a shotgun. I think your stance is way too absolute bro. An empire is by definition multicultural and cosmopolitan. The Vatican is not the most apt comparison here (It is a country in name only).
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    Now that you mention it it is odd. Guru Tegh Bahadur appears to be the only Guru whose persona underwent a complete overhaul in Sikh art. I suppose since all art is a reflection of the imagination, and since Guru Tegh Bahadur was known more for his bhagti than for any military feat (to my knowledge he undertook no campaigns against foes), this is how Sobha Singh imagined he must have looked. An honest mistake probably. This is a trend in contemporary Sikh art, artists representing the figures of our history based on what they know of them - and this knowledge very rarely incorporates puraatan itihaasic sources. This must be why you get all these paintings showing Singhs decked out in flashy armor like the Desi Knights Templar, when historical sources are pretty unanimous that they dressed very lightly in that period - wore barely anything except their kakkars.
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    I am not for or against earrings, but I am against us being ignorant about our history. Not everything we hear from kathavachaks are true. We have to do our own research and gain knowledge about these type of things.
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    The first pic is a pic of Sri Guru gobind singh ji maharaj in his youth( notice the earrings) Second pic is of Akali Baba Phula Singh(again notice the earrings) Third pic is of Sri Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji Maharaj(earrings!!!) Fourth pic is of Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji Maharaj(again earrings!!!) The next two pictures are of Sri Guru Har Gobind Sahib Maharaj which are in Baba Atal Rai Gurduwara(earrings on most of the Sikhs) The second to last picture is a picture that somebody made which depicts Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj meeting Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj(Notice that Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj is wearing earrings and Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj wearing a seli topi which was worn from the 1st Guru up until the 6th Guru) And the last picture is of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj(earrings galore!!) Some of these pics are contemporary pics that were made at the times of the gurus such as the Sri Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji Maharaj picture. All the credit goes to Bhagat Singh artist who found this information
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    That's not as pronounced as you might think in surviving rehitnamay. There are so many images going way back (including one that purports to be a contemporary one of dasmesh pita) that show earrings. I'm not a fan of earrings (so I'm not trying to justify it), but part of me suspects the strict injunctions against these things might be yet another Victorian British accretion into the Sikh community? Maybe via the 'amrit ceremony' they introduced for Sikhs joining their army?
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