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you are such an 1d1ot ....Guru Nanak Dev ji was not a pacifist baba with a long white beard , he was a young vibrant man who confronted Babar to His face and spoke His Truth THE TRUTH , He carried a shastar to defend himself on his travels . you are obviously unaware that Guru Nanak Dev ji was trained in Shastarvidhiya in fact he taught Baba Budda ji same who then taught Guru Har Gobind ji. Guru Gobind Singh ji is not the start of the Sikh fauj , the foundations were laid by Guru Nanak Dev ji and built upon by each successive Guru Sahiban , even Guru Arjun Dev ji invited his sikhs to engage in wrestling bouts . There is no sikhi without physical preparedness to defend rights of ourselves and others. You dare to equate yourself to Guru Sahiban ? they were not like other humans in fact they were pooran avatars unlike anything others , you preach about violence what about the facts of HIndu deities like Rama, Krishna , Arjun and their whole families were they not all violent and purely for their selfish reasons not for the betterment of humanity Guru Sahiban di ninidya karke tanu darr nahin lagda ... take your pervert paedophile Gandi and shove you warped mindset ... do not call you self a sikh you have more loyalty to your fake besharam brahmin

http://www.sikhroots.com/audio-mp3/t/dr-tejinderpal-singh-dulla/mixed-kirtan/jis-ke-wadbhaga

darpok !!! Mata ji nu chotta darja deh ke nassi nah ....

Who was the first Sikh Soorma? It was Dhan Dhan Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj. They were Shastardhari, They used to carry a mace. Look how much tyranny is in the world. Ask yourself why countries have armies? Sikhi is Miri-Piri, temporal and spiritual. We are defenders of all. This is true Dharam. Doesn't mean if there isn't a physical war going on you don't be a soldier. There are other kinds of wars. Plus there is such a thing as reserve/territorial army. I suggest you have a good read about Sikhi, and Dharam overall before you make such an insult to call it foundationless. Your laadla gandhi insulted Shamsher Pita Satguru Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji Maharaaj and the Khalsa Panth, as well as Krishan Ji and the Srimad Bhagavad Gita...and look what happened to him, look at his demise. Saala bandar.

It's not hiding the truth. It's accepting reality as it is. Fact: People have haircuts in our qaum. It's not their fault they have one, nor is it their fault they weren't taught as children. There are plenty of mone who have pyaar and sharda for Sikhi more than some Amritdharis - having kes doesn't automatically make you a good person or a dharmic banda. When the time is right they will keep it. Do you really believe every single Sikh was Kesdhari in the days of old? Yes it might be for you but not for the majority. Loll are you really trying to make people base their religious convictions on a film??? As someone who was a mona for many years keeping kes was not my priority and it's not for most who are interested in Sikhi. Forcing people doesn't work, and guilt tripping them by saying "People gave their lives for your religion and you throw away your hair" defo doesn't! This is exactly the mentality which pushes people away. And I'm happy to say that a lot of people who had this soch are moving away from it, even some of the most kattar people around don't push this propaganda anymore. It alienates people and is detrimental. When I decided to keep my kes, I wasn't told to, nor was I pressured into it or guilt tripped. I did sangat with the most chardikala Singh from Taksal I have ever met, he has dedicated his life to Sikhi, to bring Sikhi to the masses, and in our last meeting all he did was point at his own dastaar and say "eda dhyaan kar", that's it!!! He didn't mention kes once but I knew exactly what he meant, and he said it with so much pyaar I accepted it there and then - true pyaar is one nishaani of a Gursikh.

Many thanks to Chatanga Ji for the images.

Sample of Guru Hargobind Maharaj Ji's handwriting, kanne, dulankar and other gurmukhi vowels barely visible

ਮਾਝ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ माझ महला ५ ॥ Mājẖ mėhlā 5. Majh, Fifth Guru. ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਪਿਤਾ ਤੂੰਹੈ ਮੇਰਾ ਮਾਤਾ ॥ तूं मेरा पिता तूंहै मेरा माता ॥ Ŧūʼn merā piṯā ṯūʼnhai merā māṯā. Thou art my father, Thou art my mother, ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਭ੍ਰਾਤਾ ॥ तूं मेरा बंधपु तूं मेरा भ्राता ॥ Ŧūʼn merā banḏẖap ṯūʼn merā bẖarāṯā. Thou art my kinsman and Thou art my brother. ਤੂੰ ਮੇਰਾ ਰਾਖਾ ਸਭਨੀ ਥਾਈ ਤਾ ਭਉ ਕੇਹਾ ਕਾੜਾ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ तूं मेरा राखा सभनी थाई ता भउ केहा काड़ा जीउ ॥१॥ Ŧūʼn merā rākẖā sabẖnī thā▫ī ṯā bẖa▫o kehā kāṛā jī▫o. ||1|| In all the places Thou art my protector. Then why should I feel fear and anxiety? SGGS Ji Ang 103 ?? Dhan Guru Arjan Dev ji

No one is suggesting anyone do that. Just simply open your mind up to the reality of our ancestors using certain plant based psychotropic drinks for various reasons without any hoo-ha. They obviously weren't 'useless junkies' as they managed to pull off political, social and military objectives that really were astounding. Maharajah Ranjit Singh is a brilliant example. I mean, by the account of his own Romanian doctor, he took a little dose of opium daily and it didn't affect his ability to create a prosperous, modern, superpower state. Kavi Santokh who wrote the now classic work Suraj Prakash was also maligned for his use of opium by the British and members of the Singh Sabha movement. Our people's hypocrisy and confusion on the matter is astounding because his (kavi Santokh's) work is still used extensively in Gurdwara katha today. There are a number of references of highly respected Singh Shaheeds taking (cannabis infused) 'sukha-nidhaan' in Sikh sources like Bhangu's Panth Prakash - let alone in independent accounts from early Europeans who were spying on the Sikh kingdom. The earliest reference I found of Khalsa opium use was in Sainapati's Sri Gursobha, which is telling, because it is purportedly a work contemporary to dasmesh pita himself by a kavi of his darbar, so if that account is true, the use of such substances have a very early provenance and wasn't some 'later corruption' as some zealots like to make out. It says a lot that the descendants of our people (i.e. many of us) are now in some sort of denial or disbelief or even outright angry about these things. This all ties in with the British imposed conservatism I mentioned earlier in my opinion.

Unlike you of course?

Thanks for replying. I couldn't be bothered to reply to someone who thinks it's wrong to take away the life of an individual who is guilty of crimes against humanity. She seems to think it's religious extremism to try and off one person who destroyed the most holy shrine of your faith and killed god knows how many of your fellow brothers and sisters.

I thought he meant spirit by devte... as I am translating it to mean angel or spirits to be exact. Thanks for the correction. He doesn't mention some particular one so I was not sure. Yes I meant some type of bad spirit is causing tthis perhaps in the pretext of pretending to be some kinda of devte.

Evil devte are there to make your life miserable. They cause poverty,failure in life, family breakups, confusion, disorientation, physical pains and bad feelings. God is the complete opposite. Man is the one who chooses what powers you want to work for you. If you don't choose the good ones through guidance from your parents or Guru or guide, then without any doubt you will have the dark powers working to bring you down. So keep asking the good powers via path to keep protecting you. Simran penji is right. Don't eat anything from them and don't leave your used thinga around at theirs. Ask Guru ji to protect you often and make sure you say your prayers and go to gurdwara often. Your dad does seem totally misguided right from the start.