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It is not like this. We Sikhs and Hindus and just about anyone else is not a threat to the UK. We are not demanding our own law or country. We do not go out of our way to not fit in. Like muslims do. Britian first has realised this. They are not stupid. They know we are no danger to the UK. infact they know alot of Sikhs are coconotised liberal people who would rather have a pint down the pub watching the footy then do a islamic protest. People need to wake up. This is a party against extremist muslims and not you. YOU ARE NOT THE TARGET. They will not try and deport you. maybe extremist muslims but that is only right. They are not a perfect party at the moment by any means and there are a few issues that need addressing in their manifesto and agendas to make it more appealing to the wider public. they also need better leadership and ideas. They need to drop this 'Christian' slogan that they have. which stems from deep insercuties as they feel their faith and freedom is under threat by islamists who want to convert them. The only reason they are brandishing the christian slogan is to combat Islam as they feel under threat. Which is understandable to a certain degree. Some people need to stop being scardy cats and fearful. We Sikhs are not exactly doing anything to combat islamic extremism in the uk so lets no interfere are raise our roses to people who are actually doing something. If not britian first then ukip.

Say thank you / shukaraan to Waheguru Ji as many times as you can. Never stop saying it, does He ever stop giving us? Does He ever stop forgiving us ? Does He ever stop loving us ? So why would we not say Thanks You? Why is it duality ? He is your father, Gurbani says this time and time again so why wouldn't we thank our Father who gives us so much?

Yea the coconut or ganna (sugarcane) is when you do a akhand path of sri dasam. In a sehaj path you are only supposed to vadd one at the end when the bhog lines "bidih sakiya sagre" comes on hikayet 11 and 12.

Some people are too philosophical for their own good. You should ask these people who are supposedly free from "dualism" whether they had breakfast today. If so, why? Did they go to work? If so, why? Won't Waheguru just feed them regardless? Why make those special efforts? Why feed yourself when there are 7 billion people out there? Do they think they are apart from the rest of creation, or Waheguru? Is that not dualistic? Your friends should get a clue. The main thrust of Gurbani is to get people to be thankful for what they have! ਜਿਸ ਦਾ ਦਿਤਾ ਖਾਵਣਾ ਤਿਸੁ ਕਹੀਐ ਸਾਬਾਸਿ ॥ Let us all celebrate Him, from whom we receive our nourishment. ਜਿਸਕਾ ਦੀਆ ਹਮੇਸਾ ਖਾਣਾ ਹੈ ਤਿਸ ਕਾ ਧੰਨ੍ਯਬਾਦ ਕਰੀਏ॥ (p474) Faridkot teeka: "From whom we always eat, we should thank." The person who doesn't say thank you is the worst person on Earth: ਭਾਰੇ ਭੁਈਂ ਅਕਿਰਤਘਣ ਮੰਦੀ ਹੂ ਮੰਦੇ ॥੮॥ Bhaaray Bhueen Akirataghan Mandee Hoo Manday | In fact the ungrateful person is burden on earth and he is evil of evils. ਵਾਰਾਂ ਭਾਈ ਗੁਰਦਾਸ : ਵਾਰ ੩੫ ਪਉੜੀ ੮ ਪੰ. ੬ Sounds like your "non-dualistic" friends who don't say thank you.

HIS friend is beyond scum , you would get a person labelled as a sex offender for life because you were too slack to turn up for work ? wth is that , he's probably got a wife and kids too you will destroy their lives too ...imagine innocent kids getting bullied for your lies about their dad Day in and out at school. Get a life dude and sort out your messed up friend... the guy gave her fair chances to sort herself out but she flaked on him too many times , he is within his rights to tell uh uh this ain't working.

?? Dhan Guru Arjan Dev ji ?

Saying thank you to God is good and should be encouraged. When you say it once, God hears it. So don’t worry about saying it so many times ritualistically, as long as it’s from your heart and with sincerity, God is all knowing.

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you must be daft. Either dob her in and tell the old bill OR give me her details and i'll go and knock some sense (thapphar) into her

You plonkas have no idea what Britain first is. In the 70's, if you were the extreme minority sikh in all white area, then on a Friday it was quite often that your parents would be walking home and get paki-bashed by NFs, who would mug the brown paypacket with the weeks wages. If you were a kid, then you may have missed 2 out of 5 of your packed lunches unless your let the whiteys stick your head done the toilet. SERIOUSLY, you have NO IDEA what the generations before you had to deal with in order for you to have your freedoms.

I can easily say I saw Jesus, Muhammad and Buddha last night, doesn't make it true at all. They do appear but rarely. Almost all the cases of people claiming to see them will be false or just the desire for attention. Reminds me of that Charitar Guru Sahib wrote, about the man who claimed to see Krishna so he could go and frolic with a Queen.

It actually is. They rarely come to just anyone, only people with really high Avasthas or undying faith are capable of having their visions and blessings. IF anyone has seen them or sees them then they are super super super lucky. Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj has blessed them.

your sin is big but Akalpurakh's kirpa is bigger http://beta.igurbani.com/shabad/2397?verseId=27559

No ones making you stay here. If you despise it so much up and move, it's not exactly hard these days. Anyone supporting Britain first is an absolute moron, not only will the media tear you apart but after they finish with the muzzies they'll look for a new target. Trust me when I say they'll come knocking for you too.

soooooo back on topic. Here's Sant Bhindrawale's take on the Mata Ji's past lives. http://kam1825.podbean.com/e/mata-sahib-kaurs-previous-life/ So my initial post about Mata Ji's past life being in Satyug as a different being from Durga is mentioned here by Sant Ji. He references the 404th Charitar in Dasam Granth, If anyone wishes to learn more I recommend you read it.

bhul chuck maaf akal ji sahae

"Without God's Name(Naam), there is no other wealth, wisdom, or bliss. Everything else, is just koor, poison, and ashes."

Uncle ji you are still alive ? I thought you probably did akal chaalana and dharamraj giving you punishment for your BS utterances against our guru sahibs. Chalo, Wishing you good holidays seasons

A SALUTE TO ALL MOTHERS Mother: I fought with death when I was giving birth to you. I spent sleepless nights when you were sick and crying. I never ate without feeding you first. I bore so many pains to bring you to the stage that you are in today. How will you repay me my child? Child: When I grow up, I will find a good job and earn lots of money for you so you can enjoy the pleasures of this world. Mother: Your father is doing this already and I do not expect this from you too. By the time you are earning I will be old and will not be in need of any worldly luxuries. Son: I will find a pious lady and marry her so she can cook for you and take care of you. Mother: That is not her duty my son and neither should you marry for that reason. It is not compulsory on her to do any service to me, neither do I expect this from her. Your marriage should be for you, a companion and a comfort for you as you go through this journey of life. Child: Tell me mother how can I repay you then? Mother: (With tears in her eyes) Spend time with me or call me often. A mother only requires this much from you while she is alive. Then when I die give me your shoulder and bury me. Whenever you perform prayers, supplicate for me. Give out in charity for me. Remember your every good deed will benefit me in the hereafter so be good and kind always. Fulfill the rights of all those around you. The sleepless nights and pains I took to bring you up was not a favour to you but was for my creator. He blessed me with you as a beautiful gift, and as a means for me to attain His pleasure. Your every good deed becomes my repayment. Will you do it my child...? Child: (Cannot speak and had tears in his eyes)

Dear Pen Jee, your post denotes a deep pain, a big wound, and I believe it is because of unexpected bad behaviour/response from your near and dear ones. The more one have expectations from others, the more the chances of getting dissapointed and deeply hurt. You see, apart from our bond with Wahiguru, which is true and eternal, all other relations are "koor" . To some we leave when we depart, some others leave us with betrayl or when they also depart from this plane. Just now, you need a big dose of love, and trust, to uplift you emotionally, so that your mental recovery takes place. To start with, though we do not know each other, that matters not much, but for sure, as a gursikh brother, I send you a big hug, and a lots of love wherever you maybe. You are not alone, just as all the brothers and sisters above, have contributed with their valuable 2 cents, to make you drop down the negative thoughts, and to support you with their kindness as well. Just see it in their posts above. Trust Wahiguru and always be thankful under all conditions. God bless you. Sat Sree Akal.

Is Guru Nanak God? At least for me undoubtedly yes, and I believe for many of our gursikh brothers and sisters also is the same. The thing is, with our limited mind, we can never grasp that to the full. Many of us and many more other human beings, generally think, if that particular being is the Supreme God, he must perform miracles or display some sort of miracoulous powers and so on ... You see, we have seen a lot about hindu(mostly) gods, godesses, devis, devtaysfairies, demigods, and a huge number of these spiritual entities, displaying their powers... So when it comes to Guru Sahiban, some how, some, expect something alike, if not more, for they think and believe Guru Sahiban is muh much more. Their thinking is like that, if a child can lift 10 kgs for example, so the strong adult can easily lift 100kgs. But they forget, that if wahiguru in His Shabad form of Akhoot Jot, does not do something according to our reasoning, how can for example then Guru Sahiban do the contrary? There is no difference in them, yet if one swaroop is respectful to the laws of nature, the other one which is the same in essence, will not go against those very laws, rather act also accordingly. Same in essence means, same in refulgence of that Jot, of that Naam, of that eternal Truth, of that pure wisdom, of that infinite ocean of prem, of Daya Meher, of Bakshish. The difference between us and them Guru Sahiban, is that because of our paaps, impurities, vikaars, manmat, we fail to see that Jot of wahiguru in them, while they, see the Jot of Wahiguru in each one of us, irrespective of our creed, caste, gender or race. Nothing is hidden from them, they exactly and precisely know what is happening at all times in each corner of all the khands, brahmands, all planes of consciousness. Moreover, look at the beauty of their utter humility, inspite of knowing everything, they act as normal human beings. From them, spiritual scent is emanated and showered, only those wadbhagee pure jeevas, have thus full faith in Guru Sahiban, in the sense that, they, are Sachay Patshah. On the contrary, we manmukhs, just acheive some degree or any other sort of gyan, have our heads full of outbursting ahankaar, thus fall down, and in shamelessy doing paaps and unjustice to mankind, even though we are blind, deaf and dumb spiritually wise. We tend to forget, that, Guru Sahiban do not come to our level, to make of this creation a paradise, because it is all "koor", but rather to awaken us, from our deep slumber of agyanta, by singing His wadeeayee, His mahima, through Gurbani. Guru Nanak, is undoubtedly Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Sat Sree Akal.

I found this as well veerji.. The history of Anand marriage ceremony is traced back to the time of GURU Amar Das (1479-1574), who composed the long 40 stanza hymn Anand, in the Ramkali measure, suitable to be sung or recited on all occasions of religious import. Guru Amar Das initiated Anand Viah - Anand Marriage. The marriage was solemnized by reciting Anand (Anand Sahib), and Ardas (invocation –supplication), and this ceremony got the name of Anand Viah, or Anand Karaj. Perhaps, his daughter Bibi Bhani was married to Bhai Jetha ji (Gur Ram Das) by reciting Anand. His successor, Guru Ram Das, composed a four stanza hymn, Lavan, which is recited and sung to solemnize nuptials. Guru Nanak Dev, the first Sikh Prophet, refused to marry by ancient Hindu ceremony of Vedi. It caused a furor, but things settled down soon. He wrote Mool Mantar on a paper, placed it on a low stool, and performed Lavan’ – went around it four times, followed by the girl. Evidently, from the fourth Guru onward the Guru’s marriages were most probably performed by Anand Karaj. Add - Guru Angad Devji and Guru Amardaasji were already married before they became a disciple of Sikh Gurus.

Why why why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! why?????????????? Do you have to spit out your abnormal sexual fantasies on a religious site???????? why??????????? Stop it ........STOP IT!!!!! STOP IT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! OH WAHEGURU........... writing the above did take a lot of energy out of me. I hope your bad thoughts get ironed out by the burst of positive energy I have just sent you.

@kcmidlands Flying under the radar means looking like rest of the folks. Jaggi has no distinguishing Sikh religious mark to say he is a Sikh like an amritdharis does. If putting up a website on 1984 massacre of many Sikhs was a distinguishing mark of the Sikh religion, then why didn't the Indian government pick up jaggi as soon as he got off of the plane in India? Why didn't they catch on right away? If anything this provides more to say how a Mona can fly under the radar even after making a website showing Indian government genocide against the Sikhs. And now I will wait for someone to say I am against Jaggi and get all emotional.

Actually I have been learning from taksali singhs for a really long time sir.

For starters yeah we are proud the Singhs put it on the worlds 3rd largest army for 10 days despite being outnumbered by thousands. Secondly yeah no Khalistan, have any of the meat eating crew helped achieve it? Khalistan would have been for all Sikhs regardless of jatha and non Sikhs alike. Questions for you... WHERE WERE YOUR MEAT CREW WHILE THE DEHLI GENOCIDE HAPPENED? WHEN OPERATION WOODROSE HAPPENED? if you can answer these then fair play, but i doubt you will.