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Though Ajnala has done immense Seva for the Panth so has Daddrianvale but Ajnala is too narrow minded and only promotes division on the basis of jathebandia

Thanks! I agree with your post. Brahmins do give it large and people get the impression they're religious when many of them, infact, aren't particularly Dharmi bande - a few are good at keeing sucham so I'll give them that much. You're right that in the U.K it's not as bad but there is still plenty of caste discrimination from them. As for Punjabi Hindus attending the Gurdwara, it's true many do attend and probably do feel more comfortable there, I've come across some who are basically Sikh - just as you have people who are Sikh in name but Hindu, you have people who are Hindu in name but Sikh (ironically some Sikhs would never accept them but are happy to push others out into the Hindu camp if they get even the slightest whiff of something Sanatan coming their way). And it's not just Punjabi Hindus who go to the Gurdwara - where I live pleny of Gujarati Hindus also attend, not just for the langar either, and some have been attending for years. I actually think there would be quite a few Hindus who would genuinely be interested in Sikhi but sadly there is no prachaar directed towards them - I think if we could manage something similar to how Sikhs work with Swami Parmanand Ji, we could defo appeal to more Hindus. As someone who was raised a Brahmin, what would you suggest as a way to bring them into the Sikh fold?

look veer ji sikhi will never fail , just dodgy babey whether they are from sant samaj , taksal, akj whereever , Waheguru ji will remove all the masks and gursikhs will see what's what , they will be become tighter with Guru ji

While im not disputing captain and his family's history, i doubt this is the case. according to the badal lot, the SK 2015 lot are with congress, whether this is true or not only Waheguru knows. However, ajnala seems to have had a rift over the Dhadriawale issue in amritsar, ajnala clearly hates dhadriawale while the other 2 jathedars seem to be okay with him. i rate ajnala for being there when beadbi happens, but the guy seems to be short sighted and lets his own issues get in the way of panthic unity. even during the height of beadbi cases in late 2015, he was cussing dhadriawale on stage, when the issue was actually about Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Either way, this is a massive step backwards after the steps foward after SK2015.

I think if you want to learn Farsi on your own, that's great because learning another language is always fine and all. But what need do we have of Farsi, what need does it fulfill for our community? The Persians don't feel any affinity towards Punjabis, they aren't learning Punjabi as a community, so why should we be? I think our quam has more worrisome things to tackle than reviving Farsi. We need to revive Gurmukhi and Punjabi among our community, because most of our youth does not know it. I don't mean to be offensive, but I disagree with your comment. As for your DNA results, great that you got them done. I also took a DNA test through 23andme last year and I got similar results, most Punjabis do. Apart from the curiosity of where my ancestors are from, it also warns you of potential genetic diseases, which I thought was beneficial. We need more Punjabis to take these DNA tests as it improves data and puts an impetus on the researchers to focus research on our people. As for the Persian origin, I was told that it's most likely that both Punjabis and Persians belonged to one Aryan tribe that later on split up into the Iranic people and the Indic people. This claim is supported by the Rig Ved. Our people, the Indic Aryans then mixed with the Dravidians to produce the Indo-Aryans of today, and thats why we still share a genetic link with Persians but do not have similar genes due to mutations and mixing.

It's not a complex language, bro. Arabic is a complex language. The grammar is complex. You have different forms for singular, plural, 3 or more people, whether they are present in front of you or not, etc. Pronunciation is difficult for us because there are sounds which we are not familiar with. There are fewer words with which we as Punjabis are familiar. Persian, by contrast, is arguably simpler than Punjabi, because, e.g., it doesn't have grammatical gender. The sounds are easier for us to pronounce (there are only a handful that don't exist in desi Punjabi, but they do exist in urban Punjabi or Urdu, so you've probably already heard the sounds). Many of the words also exist in Punjabi, so that means there's a foothold for us to hang on to while figuring out the meaning of a sentence. Learning Persian for us is like crossing a lake with a paddle-boat. Learning Arabic for us is like trying to cross the Pacific Ocean with a life jacket from the bottom of your airplane seat. Oh, and Arabic is a non-Indo-European language. Persian is Indo-European (like Punjabi, of course).

Things like Football camps maybe even a national Gudawara football league with Gudawara's across the country competing against each other would be great idea. From there you could set up self-defence classes (the art of Gatka) Punjabi reading and writing sessions. lots can be done. Also I feel its a good idea to send our kids to Sikh schools such as the Khalsa academy where the kids will learn about Sikhism form young age and hold the values and respect which we hold in our culture . The Khalsa academy welcomes all and teaches all the academic curriculum other comprehensive schools teach so its a win win situation. Start them off at young age i say. http://www.khalsaacademiestrust.com/

problem is when they forget they are just another sikh, and they have been given sewa, if they are true gursikhs they should fear Guru ji and concentrate on doing that sewa to fullest ability only they are nothing before naam

i wasnt aware of them being locked up, its not a competition anyway - my ardas is all for sikh political prisoners and i mentioned the guys who been picked up now as i know about them.

Brilliant.. keep them coming brother

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਬੋਹਿਥੁ ਆਦਿ ਜੁਗਾਦੀ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਿ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ਹੇ ॥੮॥ Sathigur Bohithh Aadh Jugaadhee Raam Naam Nisathaaraa Hae ||8|| From the very beginning of time, and throughout the ages, the True Guru has been the boat; through the Lord's Name, He carries us across. ||8|| Raag Maaroo Guru Nanak Dev

1) WORDS 2)HEART 3)WATER 4)CARPET 5)CABINET

I can understand your concern due to you experience and the rapid rise of RSS/Shiv Sena whom do not represent all Hindu's I see them nothing more then government sponsored terrorist organisation. Sadly the city in you live in Mumbai is full of RSS/Shiv sena supports who believe in Hindu supremacy. you are right every religion has its right to define themselves and other faiths cannot define your religion and belief system for you.

It was about 20 years ago. I do agree that Both Bharmin and Jatts think they are superior then then rest and would marry within there own cast to keep hold of there linkage which is wrong as feel the cast system has no place in today society. The biggest flaw in Hinduism is the cast system. why should person cast dictate from birth till death what value they hold in society .Were all born as mortal Human's are action in are waking life define who we are and not the cast. system If your born a Bahrmins that does not your autonomically make you self righteous,powerful and closer to god then say someone who is of a lower cast which sadly many still Brahmins think they do. I have know some Bhramin's who will not eat a a lower cast person house. its totally wrong. There are certain temples in India were lower cast cant enter which is BS as we know god does not discriminate. in The UK i feel its not as bad but some Brahmins in the UK can come across as arrogant and would be totally against inter-cast marriage. I hate these kind of Brahmins. The Punjabi Hindu's I have across irrespective of there cast have more respect towards Sikhism and feel more comfortable attending there local Gudawara. I dont think there is thing as Sikh Brahmin ?

Actually humanity might have originated in Europe according to recent research. Though this doesn't disprove evolution or anything in Puratan scriptures.

The cradle of where humans came from is in east africa. If there is such a thing as adam and eve area. We evolved here from. Infact the very first life on earth was fish and insects. Over millions of years we evolvee in the human form from fish and othe animals forms. Today we most resemble our ape like ancesstors. However we did not ditectly evolve from apes. But we shared a common ancesstor. All this is actually written in our holy sciptures. Such as reincarnation and how we have escaped the endless rebirth from animals/insects to man. Long before scientist discovered this through evolotion.

So your basing all Hindu and Hindu- Sikh marriages about this this incident and your personal experience living in Mumbai which is the home of RSS/Hindvita (or whatever they are called ). Let me turn this around into a positive view against your negative view based on my experience. My uncle who is from Hindu background (Hindu Bharmin) married a Sikh women (arrange marriage) a few years later my Uncle become Amritdhari Sikh, His son and daughter are both Amritdhari Sikh,and proudly wear a dastar. There a few Hindu-Sikh marriages in my family which are going well One could say that if person visit a Gudwara and bows down to the Sri guru Granth Shaib they are Sikh no matter what there surname or religious background is. I dot not consider myself a non Sikh even thou by name I am Hindu Bharmin but my beliefs and culture is more inline with Sikhs. Even thou I am not fully religious I know more about Sikhism then the average Sikh. Do i think its right for me to marry a Sikhg Girl ? yes because of knowledge of Sikhi and my beliefs towards Sikhisim (like i said before i do not consider myself a non Sikh.) I would want my kids to follow and learn more about Sikhism and Punjabi culture. I would more likely have more trouble marrying a strict Hindu as they disagree with my religious views etc, Now they are Sikhs who are just Sikhs by Name. The smoke weed, get intoxicated know nothing about Sikhi. they are like "yo blood I am Sikh yo look at my blinked out Khanda neckless Jatt for for life you get me fam " these kind of Sikhs are more problem and danger to Sikhi and could ruin sikh families. However where I do agree your point against marrying a Hindu if the Hindu family has no knowledge of Sikhi, never been to Gudwara, unwilling to bow down to Sri Guru Granth Shaib and would want to convert there wife/Husband to Hinduism. Name means nothing its whats in the heart that counts . Just look at Bhai Mati Das for an example.

Divorce after 35 years !! -A Very nice story An elderly man in Mumbai calls his son in New York and says, 'I hate to ruin your day son, but I have to tell you that your mother and I are getting a divorce; 35 years of marriage... and that much misery is enough!' 'Dad, what are you talking about?' the son screams. 'We can't stand the sight of each other any longer,' the old man says. 'We're sick of each other, and I'm sick of talking about this, so you call your sister in Hong Kong and tell her!' Frantic, the son calls his sister, who explodes on the phone. 'Like heck they're getting divorced,' she shouts, 'I'll take care of this.' She calls Mumbai immediately, and screams at the old man, 'You are not getting divorced. Don't do a single thing until I get there. I'm calling my brother back, and we'll both be there tomorrow. Until then , don't do a thing, DO YOU HEAR??' and she hangs up. The old man hangs up his phone and turns to his wife. 'Okay', he says, 'It's all set. They're both coming for our anniversary and paying their own airfare!!' MORAL: No man / woman, is busy in this world all 365 days. The sky is not going to fall down if you take few days LEAVE to make your parents or friends happy. Always Remember Charlie Chaplin's 3 Heart touching statements:- 1st- Nothing is permanent in this world, not even our Troubles.. 2nd- I like walking in the rain, because nobody can see my tears.. And 3rd MOST IMP- the most wasted day in life, is the day, in which, we have not laughed..

In general the UK Christian population is becoming atheist, Islam is having more of Impact followed by Sikhism.In my city we have strong Sikh population followed by muslims and Christianity. The hindu population is not low by any means but there is only one Hindu temple which is run more like business then place of worship. The opening hours are very limited, 10am till 12pm and 5 PM till 8PM. The temple has access to sky spots and the pundit would rather watch cricket then do his job lol. Most Hindu's in my city opt to to the Gudwara's instead. Fair play to them.

on a lighter note this is soo cringeworthy [youtube]

maybe he will blurt out the truth in his anger about the others , something is causing this and it could be a blessing either way

moving aside for congress-friendly one ? last month they tried saying Hawara was standing aside too. Ajnala knows that sangat is to respected above all so he has no right to step down , did Guru Sahiban ever turn down sangat? Need to check if the family is safe and sound

Good point. It would be amazing to see a revival of Farsi in our quam though - some oldies rave about it, and I wish I had the himmat to learn such a complex language.

Do you think we should pay more attention to our Persian heritage given Guru Gobind Singh Ji's affinity for the Persian language and culture?

Missnaries and their stooges are creating their own cult which will reject basically everything that can’t be proven to their Manmat science barometer. Dhadri fanboys are now missnaries. Dhadri gone cuckoo after the murder attempt on him.

the true is punjabi women were 4q by persians greeks arabs turks muslims british hindus , what has changed

Indian girls might be university clever but street stupid.Stupid girl trying to make money from Mossad