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    Yes, I heard it for the first time and could not believe it. However gurbani clearly states Gur Nanak, Nanak har soe. SGGS Ang 864 The last line states Guru Nanak is God himself
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    sure type in sri granth..in google..and explore the rest. I have downloaded Gurbani nirvaan, which is an app. It is awesome as the search is so easy that you just have to type the first letters of the words of shabads and the whole shabad comes up. It has transliteration too.
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    In Gurmat, we become aware of the Inmensity and majesty of Wahiguru. And moreover if ever we have to devote ourselves, that has to be only, and only Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Though there are many well known spiritual entities, gods, godesses, devtas, angels, which are worshipped by human beings at different places and in different dharams. But the fact is, at most one goes to their abodes for a temporary stay, then fall back into the creation. If one is bad or good by nature, worshipping these entities, will only make us get powers or boons, that is it. While on the other side, if we worship Wahiguru only, Fifth Patshahee in Raag Soohee, tells us in simple and plain words, what are the consequences in doing so : ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਅਰਾਧਹਿ ਮੈਲੁ ਸਭ ਕਾਟਹਿ ਕਿਲਵਿਖ ਸਗਲੇ ਖੋਵੈ Har Naam Araadhhehi Mail Sabh Kaattehi Kilavikh Sagalae Khovai हरि नामु अराधहि मैलु सभ काटहि किलविख सगले खोवै They worship the Lord's Name, and all their filth is washed away; they rid themselves of all sins. I think we need no expalnations, His lovely words are self sufficient by themselves. And if we did understand anything from it, it means, we become pure paviter, howsoever we are, and thus we merge in Him by His unlimited Daya Meher. Sat Sree Akal.
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    gond Mahala 5 - ang 864 " Gur Parmeshvar eko jaan|| guru prmysru eyko jwxu] Know that the Guru and the Transcendent Lord are One. jo Tis Bhava soe parwan || rahao|| jo iqsu BwvY so prvwxu ]1]rhwau] Whatever pleases Him is acceptable and approved
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    The gurus were the human form of god. Waheguru came to earth in the form of light within the gurus themselves - Someone correct me if im wrong because im no expert Also ive been told waheguru is everywhere and in everything
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    Can u plz tell me from where did u get these shabads.. I mean u just googled it or from some app. If it’s from an app can u plz mention the name of that app. I really liked that it gives translations in punjabi too
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    Why are u talking about Hindu and Muslims. Tell us something about sikhism that’s helpful and might teach us something..
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    What's this got to do with us?
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    You need to educate ur cousins on what grooming is. Its when older men get younger girls usually teenagers to like them. Then they exploit them. They will give them gifts, attention, and be very nice. But then they will get them drunk. Take naked pictures of them and then blackmail them. They will say go out with my friends or i will show these pictures to ur parents or post them online. Then the groomers who are usually related, uncles, cousins, nephews. Will prostitute the girl to other groomers. Please tell this to ur cousins. Also some groomers are not old. But the same age and they target the same age girls. There have been stories in the past.where they got the sikh girl to convert and even married her but then took her to pakistaan and left her there in brothels. So make sure you warn them about all of this. Also watch SAS sikh awareness society videos especially the ones called snakes in suits. It will tell you about all of the tactics they use. And u can prrove to ur cousins that they are using thise tactics on them. Also read up on the news about all these white girls who got converted to islam and turned into jihadist and went to syria to suport isis. They r in horrible conditions there now. Even a sikh girl got brainwashed by the jihaadis and she became muslim and was recently arrested because whe was gonna do a terrorist act. Just have ur cousins read all the poats on here. And go with them everywhere and do not let them accept any drinks from the gangs or any muslims. As they will be spiked with drugs. If they will not listen, tell them how to be safe. All girls who go to bars/clubs know these things: 1. Never get a drink from a guy. It has to be from the bartender/store. 2. If u leave ur drink to go to bathroom. Do not drink it. Dont ever finish a drink that was out of ur sight even for a second as it only takes a second to add drugs to it. 3. If someone tries to blackmail u by saying if u dont do this i will tell. Go ahead and go tell yourself. Because the blackmailer is afraid to tell as well. And if u tell first, he will have no weapon to use against u. If u get scared and do what the blackmailer says, ur dead as now the blackmaiker will keep using u to do other crazier things. 4. Dont believe ppl, especially if they are selling u things. These muslims are selling u the muslim religion. So ur cousins need to do their own research. Youtube what exmuslims say. Google bad things about islam. Google the names of the ppl they talk to.
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    Hello troll. What good arguments do u have supporting sikhi? And very good arguments against islam were provided here. The posters showed that muhammed himself taught and practiced slavery. Even now some muslims will marry children because muhammed married a 9 year old himself.
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    this guy is all over the shop ...
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    Bro BhForce Jee, I have gone through this Shabad of Guru Jee in ANG 714, which is as follows: ਟੋਡੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ Todee, Fifth Mehl: ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਨਿੰਦਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਹਾਟਿਓ ॥ Nindhak Gur Kirapaa Thae Haattiou || The slanderer, by Guru's Grace, has been turned away. ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਏ ਦਇਆਲਾ ਸਿਵ ਕੈ ਬਾਣਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਕਾਟਿਓ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Paarabreham Prabh Bheae Dhaeiaalaa Siv Kai Baan Sir Kaattiou ||1|| Rehaao || The Supreme Lord God has become merciful; with Shiva's arrow, He shot his head off. ||1||Pause|| ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੪ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev ਕਾਲੁ ਜਾਲੁ ਜਮੁ ਜੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਾਕੈ ਸਚ ਕਾ ਪੰਥਾ ਥਾਟਿਓ ॥ Kaal Jaal Jam Johi N Saakai Sach Kaa Panthhaa Thhaattiou || Death, and the noose of death, cannot see me; I have adopted the Path of Truth. ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੧:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੫ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev ਖਾਤ ਖਰਚਤ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਿਖੁਟਤ ਨਾਹੀ ਰਾਮ ਰਤਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਖਾਟਿਓ ॥੧॥ Khaath Kharachath Kishh Nikhuttath Naahee Raam Rathan Dhhan Khaattiou ||1|| I have earned the wealth, the jewel of the Lord's Name; eating and spending, it is never used up. ||1|| ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੧:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੫ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev ਭਸਮਾ ਭੂਤ ਹੋਆ ਖਿਨ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਅਪਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ Bhasamaa Bhooth Hoaa Khin Bheethar Apanaa Keeaa Paaeiaa || In an instant, the slanderer was reduced to ashes; he received the rewards of his own actions. ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੨:੧ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੬ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev ਆਗਮ ਨਿਗਮੁ ਕਹੈ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਭੁ ਦੇਖੈ ਲੋਕੁ ਸਬਾਇਆ ॥੨॥੬॥੧੧॥ Aagam Nigam Kehai Jan Naanak Sabh Dhaekhai Lok Sabaaeiaa ||2||6||11|| Servant Nanak speaks the truth of the scriptures; the whole world is witness to it. ||2||6||11|| ਟੋਡੀ (ਮਃ ੫) (੧੧) ੨:੨ - ਗੁਰੂ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸਾਹਿਬ : ਅੰਗ ੭੧੪ ਪੰ. ੬ Raag Todee Guru Arjan Dev And from what I humbly understand from it is, that, the nindak is the mind, which is destroyed and turned to ashes with a slight stroke of Naam. You see, neither the mind is physical, nor Wahiguru is, for Wahiguru is is even more, it is Alakh, means not visible at all. The devis, devtays, gods, angels, trinities, though invisble to us, have a form to an extent, which is surely not the case with Wahiguru. Wahiguru is nothing but Shabad, Naam, Dhun, Bani, Sachee Bani, Dhur kee Bani ..... which has nothing but only Shabad, or Naam... And Naam as such, needs nothing to use, nor the support of any tools nor weapons, to fulfill His hukum. He is self suffiicient. When He is pleased with some jeev atma, He just manifests itself in that being as Dhun, thus all impurities, vices, vikars, kaal, mahakal, mind, and everything ceases to exist for that wadbhagee jeeva. So, in order for us moorakhs to understand His hukum, the Bani says, that the nindak, the head where the mind resides,the mind, is cut off, like with the Siv baan. In a similar way, once the mind tastes the Amrit of wahiguru´s Naam, it falls down dead. Then only the jeev soul, is freed from the death, and merges in the Infinte, Eternal Ocean of Truth, namely, Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Such is His beant wadeeayee. Sat Sree Akal.
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    1. This Shabad is by Guru Arjan Dev Ji in Raag Todee on Pannaa 714 ਨਿੰਦਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਪਾ ਤੇ ਹਾਟਿਓ।। ni(n)dhak gur kirapaa thae haattiou || The slanderer, by Guru's Grace, has been turned away. ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਏ ਦਇਆਲਾ ਸਿਵ ਕੈ ਬਾਣਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਕਾਟਿਓ।।੧।।ਰਹਾਉ।। paarabreham prabh bheae dhaeiaalaa siv kai baan sir kaattiou ||1|| rehaao || The Supreme Lord God has become merciful; with Shiva's arrow, He shot his head off. ||1||Pause|| The question is: Is Guru Arjan Dev ji saying that God took an arrow from the Hindu devta Shiva cut off somebody's head with it? This is an important question because we constantly hear from detractors of Dasam Bani about the devtas and other stuff they don't like in Bachittar Natak and other rachnas. But if they are going to reject Dasam Bani, because of: Deh Shiva bar mohe ihai Then, by the same logic, they'll have to reject Guru Granth Sahib ji. This has already started, and the editor of Spokesman has rejected Guru Granth Sahib Ji. 2. This is the way Manmohan Singh and Dr. Sant Singh Khalsa translated it (as the arrow of Shiva). But if you want to say, "that's just the literal meaning, you have to go for a deeper meaning": Well, OK, but then you have to go for deeper meanings in Dasam Bani, too. By the way, Principal Sahib Singh, translated it (the arrow of Shiva) as Naam. (Which is fine, but let's keep the same standard for Dasam Bani). 3. Please post other examples of mythological references from Gurbani or other points which detractors don't like in Dasam Bani, but are accepting (for the moment) in Guru Granth Sahib Ji, in this thread. 4. Postscript: Principal Sahib Singh failed to translated this sub-sentence in the shabad: ਅਪਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਇਆ । ਟੋਡੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ ਨਿੰਦਕੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਤੇ ਹਾਟਿਓ ॥ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਭਏ ਦਇਆਲਾ ਸਿਵ ਕੈ ਬਾਣਿ ਸਿਰੁ ਕਾਟਿਓ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕਾਲੁ ਜਾਲੁ ਜਮੁ ਜੋਹਿ ਨ ਸਾਕੈ ਸਚ ਕਾ ਪੰਥਾ ਥਾਟਿਓ ॥ ਖਾਤ ਖਰਚਤ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਿਖੁਟਤ ਨਾਹੀ ਰਾਮ ਰਤਨੁ ਧਨੁ ਖਾਟਿਓ ॥੧॥ ਭਸਮਾ ਭੂਤ ਹੋਆ ਖਿਨ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਅਪਨਾ ਕੀਆ ਪਾਇਆ ॥ ਆਗਮ ਨਿਗਮੁ ਕਹੈ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਸਭੁ ਦੇਖੈ ਲੋਕੁ ਸਬਾਇਆ ॥੨॥੬॥੧੧॥ He just skipped right over it. If he had translated it, it would have ruined his entire mode of translation. http://www.gurugranthdarpan.com/darpan2/0714.html
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    They have not gone anywhere in this moorakhs opinion. Sachkhand is God, and sants, gurmukhs etc.. . are merged in God. God is infinite, omnipresent. Therefore, Sants are dissolved in God and are everywhere. ਸੂਰਜ ਕਿਰਣਿ ਮਿਲੇ ਜਲ ਕਾ ਜਲੁ ਹੂਆ ਰਾਮ ॥ They show up in dreams of gurmukhs and gursikhs who remember earnestly. However, one thought If shaheed singhs can take physical saroop and appear to according to hukam, then hukam could make sant jarnail singh reappear to whole world. My opinion is Sant JI is shaheed, but will come back. But, I am just manmukh. We could never really understand the depth of one bachan of a brahmgyani(Sant baba thakur singh ji khalsa) ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਕੀ ਗਤਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜਾਨੈ I dont mean to offend anyone's opinons.
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    Dear Preeet Jee, I am sorry to disagree with your saying, that the line written by me above you find it flawing .... Our brothers Kira Jee and Sikhni777 have provided quite a few quotations and Shabads from the Bani, where the true rank of these main gods like Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva is clearly stated. I hate to discuss these issues, because it may seem to some, there is some type of ninda or disrespect to these gods .... But it is also a fact that I have to be true to myself . And one thing I will surely say, a lot of brahmanvadee is influencing us, thus we are going off track in Sikhee. Thus we are mistaking simple traffic police officers as the Royal King ...which is not correct at all. Jap Ji Sahib, clearly makes significant differences between these 3 main deities, and the only eternal Truth, One Supreme Wahiguru Akal PuruKh = IkOankar. The following line gives us a small hint of the Infinite Wahiguru ਆਦਿ ਅਨੀਲੁ ਅਨਾਦਿ ਅਨਾਹਤਿ ਜੁਗੁ ਜੁਗੁ ਏਕੋ ਵੇਸੁ Aadh Aneel Anaadh Anaahath Jug Jug Eaeko Vaes आदि अनीलु अनादि अनाहति जुगु जुगु एको वेसु The Primal One, the Pure Light, without beginning, without end. Throughout all the ages, He is One and the Same While referring to the 3 deities, it says: ਏਕਾ ਮਾਈ ਜੁਗਤਿ ਵਿਆਈ ਤਿਨਿ ਚੇਲੇ ਪਰਵਾਣੁ Eaekaa Maaee Jugath Viaaee Thin Chaelae Paravaan एका माई जुगति विआई तिनि चेले परवाणु The One Divine Mother conceived and gave birth to the three deities. *In the above line, the divine mother is referred to Maya. If one wants to know about the beginning of the creation and Wahiguru/ Satnam, I would suggest to read the fantastic book of Bhagat Kabeer Sahib, titled Anurag Sagar, which can be found online from several authors, it is just to get an idea about Satnam, Naam, Shabad, gods, maya, kaal, mind , etc . Then in the following line, their role in the mayavee creation is cleary described ਇਕੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਭੰਡਾਰੀ ਇਕੁ ਲਾਏ ਦੀਬਾਣੁ Eik Sansaaree Eik Bhanddaaree Eik Laaeae Dheebaan इकु संसारी इकु भंडारी इकु लाए दीबाणु One, the Creator of the World; One, the Sustainer; and One, the Destroyer. Then in the following line, Guru Jee tells us, that even after giving to each of them their particular duties to perform, they have no free will by themselves, but all of them three act under His Hukum. ਜਿਵ ਤਿਸੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਿਵੈ ਚਲਾਵੈ ਜਿਵ ਹੋਵੈ ਫੁਰਮਾਣੁ Jiv This Bhaavai Thivai Chalaavai Jiv Hovai Furamaan जिव तिसु भावै तिवै चलावै जिव होवै फुरमाणु He makes things happen according to the Pleasure of His Will. Such is His Celestial Order And still in the following line, Guru Jee clearly says, that even while having such high duties assigned by Him, the wonderful thing is, they know nothing about Him. ਓਹੁ ਵੇਖੈ ਓਨਾ ਨਦਰਿ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਬਹੁਤਾ ਏਹੁ ਵਿਡਾਣੁ Ouhu Vaekhai Ounaa Nadhar N Aavai Bahuthaa Eaehu Viddaan ओहु वेखै ओना नदरि न आवै बहुता एहु विडाणु He watches over all, but none see Him. How wonderful this is!. * This is because, their abodes are very much within the limits of maya, only Wahiguru is beyond the region of Brahm, that is why He is called also Parbrham Parmeshwar So dear all, nobody is denying their existence, but the fact is they all are just administrating the mayavee creation under His Hukum, they are in no way any substitute for Wahiguru. Swarg, Baikunth, Shivpuri, is all within maya. It would not be appropiate to say, that if I want to go to America from India, and I buy a ticket (offer devotion) which due to its cost(simran of words like Ram, Raheem, Krishna, Shiva and so on) can only take me to Afghanistan, or even then that just by buying that ticket and boarding the plane, I will reach America. No. That will never be possible The cost of the ticket going to America, is Naam or Shabad(Simran of the Gurmanter Wahiguru). The Bani says: Nanak Naam Jahaz hae, jin chareeya seh utareeya paar. Gurmat is much much higher, rather I would say the highest or the only path to the eternal Truth, Wahiguru. In Gurmat, we may do Simran of Wahiguru, just as other dharmas do of their deities, but the difference between Gurmat and other other dharmas, including brahmanvadee lies in that, their simran takes them at most to the heights of Swarg or Baikunth for example, while with the gurmanter we reach the Shabad Guru within, with whose guidance and wisdom, we then cross the region of maya or Braham, thus reach Parbraham, and then direct to Sach Khand, at the Lotus Feet of Wahiguru Akal Purukh. Such is mahanta of Sikhee or Gurmat. With the simran of lesser deities or trinity gods, we at most reach their abode, but never become one with them, because they are not the ultimate Reality. While with the Gurmanter, we reach Sach Khand and merge in Him, and become Him. That is why the bani says: Jevad aap, tevad Teree Daat. To those who meditate on Him, He gives Himself to them, nothing less, such a bountiful giver is Wahiguru. I am sorry, if I have hurt anyone, but at least for me, none is comparable to our beloved Wahiguru Akal Purukh. He alone, He is. Sat Sree Akal.
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    There was Charan Amrit from the Guru Sahibs. The concept of Amrit was always there. The Story you're referring to is a bit mixed up my friend. Guru Gobind Singh Ji was approached by a Pandit who said he could summon Durga for Guru Sahib to grant him victory in all Battles. Guru Sahib replied that The Ultimate Power (Akaal Purkh Ji) was already someone he bowed to for Victory and no one else. The Pandit insisted to do this Pooja so Guru Sahib let him conduct his ritual/Pooja. Guru Sahib provided the Pandit with everything he needed for it, After many days Guru Sahib inquired why the Goddess still hadn't appeared. The Pandit thought he'd be smart and try a clever trick. He said that to summon the Goddess they had to sacrifice one of high birth, he was going to ask for one of the Sahibzade. Guru Sahib Ji simply smiled and said there was no one of higher birth than the Pandit, so let's sacrifice the Pandit. Hearing these words the Pandit became distressed and Objected. but Guru Sahib assured him that once the Goddess appeared he'd simply ask her to bring him back to life. The Pandit then started fearing for his life and fled. He told Guru Sahib that he was going for a bath and then left. Guru Sahib (being all knowing) let him flee and had his Sikhs put all the other items and other stuff (the ghee and you know other ritual related stuff) thrown into the Fire that was lit (as per tradition of all Hindu Pooja). The flames produced were so big and it created such a massive spectacle People thought the Devi had come. Guru Sahib descended down onto the gathering masses (this was all taking place on a hill I should probably mention) and had his Sword out. He proclaimed to people that the Sword before him was Durga who obliterated Tyrants, Chandi who drank the blood of her enemies, the destroyer of all Evil. No Devi did appear, It was Guru Sahib once again showing us that sitting around and begging for other forces to assist us is pointless. We should Beg only Akaal Purkh and shouldn't be sitting idle by as Tyrants run rampant. We as Sikhs should be fighting them in any shape and form we can. I think I may have gotten some of the details mixed up but that's the main points of the story -Pandit does Pooja, tries to summon a goddess - tries foolishly to trick the 10th Master - fails and flees - Guru Sahib proves to us that we shouldn't be sitting around for someone else to vanquish our enemies, we should do it ourselves. there was an excellent post by another user that told this story very beautifully. I'll try and find it for you. Worshiping the Hindu Gods isn't same as worshiping Akaal Purkh. Gurbani made this clear and Guru Gobind Singh Ji (using the exact words of Waheguru thyself) further made the nature of these gods clear. Why they exist and what they are doing.
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    Brother, Listen to Gyani Gurbachan Singh Ji's Katha for more understanding if you're in doubt. http://gurmatveechar.com/katha.php > then click on Puratan Katha > then go to Gyani Gurbachan Singh ji's katha of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji > click on file # 120 and skip to about 15 min. Gist of what I understood: -Shabad was Ucharan when Sulhi Khan was planning to attack Amritsar, but met his end before even reaching. -"Shiv ke baan" can refer to kaal(death) since that is what Shivji's duty is. - Sulhi was carrying a "Tawar" which is very much like the arrow of Shivji. When Sulhi fell into the fire, his tawar landed on his neck, slicing/piercing it.
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    The Honorable Lord Krishna: A Prophet Of Allah Hindus worldwide will soon observe Krishna Janmashtami, a celebration of Lord Krishna’s birth. While many recognize the differences between Islam and Hinduism, few may appreciate that according to Islamic principles and Prophet Muhammad, Lord Krishna was a true Prophet of God. The obvious question that emerges is that if the same God sent Lord Krishna and Prophet Muhammad, why do Islam and Hinduism have notable theological differences? Simply put, Islam only argues that the original core teachings of Hinduism and Islam are the same — the unity of God and the obligation to serve mankind. Furthermore, nothing in the Quran, Sunnah or Hadith declares that Lord Krishna was not a prophet. Thus, this short article offers nine points to consider — together — that Lord Krishna is a true prophet of God, a prophet whom Muslims also revere along with their fellow Hindu neighbors. 1. First, the Quran is the only ancient scripture that specifically mentions and praises other faiths. While the Quran mentions Jews and Christians specifically, in numerous places, likewise, it mentions Hindus in a group known as the Sabians. Sabians refer to non-Abrahamic traditions — Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians, Taoists, etc. Thus, recognition of Hinduism exists in the Quran. 2. Islam teaches six Articles of Faith. The Fourth Article of Faith is the belief in all of God’s prophets. This simple Article of Faith provides further credence to recognizing Lord Krishna as a prophet sent to the Indian subcontinent. 3. The Quran is clear that God’s Divine guidance is not exclusive to any one people. Rather the Quran says that God sent “messengers to every people“ (10:48) and “We raised among every people a messenger“ (16:37). Prophet Muhammad further declared that God has sent no less than 124,000 prophets to mankind throughout history (Ibn Hanbal, Musnad, 5, 169) of which only 28 are mentioned in the Quran. None of those 28 prophets are mentioned as being sent to the Indian subcontinent. Thus, it is perfectly reasonable that Lord Krishna is one of the many prophets God sent with His Divine message. 4. Segueing from the previous point, the Quran clearly declares, “And We sent some Messengers whom We have already mentioned to thee and some Messengers whom We have not mentioned to thee...“ (4:165). Thus, to declare that Lord Krishna is not a prophet simply because the Quran does not mention him is a meritless argument. 5. Remarkably, Prophet Muhammad declared, “There was a prophet of God in India who is dark in color and his name was Kahan [Krishna]” (History of Hamadan Dailmi Chapter Al-Kaaf). Some critics allege this is not a Sahih (authentic) hadith, and while their assessment could be valid, their conclusion that the hadith should be discarded is invalid. Basic Islamic jurisprudence holds that if a hadith does not contradict the Quran, then it may be accepted as valid. As mentioned earlier, nothing in the Quran, Sunnah or Hadith declare that Lord Krishna was not a prophet of God. Thus, Prophet Muhammad’s testimony provides clear guidance of Lord Krishna’s status in Islam — that of a prophet. In fact, a renowned early 19th century Muslim scholar, Muhammad Qasim Nanotwi also was of the opinion that considering the evidence and this hadith, Lord Krishna was a true Prophet of God (Dharam Parchar Pg 8 & Debate Shah Jahan Pur Pg 31). 6. Islam’s Third Article of Faith is the Belief in God’s Books. This is why Muslims revere the Injeel (Gospels) and Torah (Old Testament). Thus, it is only logical that Muslims also revere the Gita and Vedas, Hinduism’s holy scriptures from which Lord Krishna taught. 7. Earlier I mentioned that both Islam and Hinduism teach the unity of God and service of mankind — a message both Prophet Muhammad and Lord Krishna taught. In fact, the Vedas state, “There is only one God, worship Him“ (Rig Veda, 6.45.16) and “Do not worship any one beside Him“ (Rig Veda 8.1.1) and also, “God is only one, not a second“ (Chandogya Upanishad Ch. 6.2.1). Furthermore, countless verses in the Vedas teach the service of mankind. For example, “Oh Noble men! We do not commit violence. We do not hurt others. We do not quarrel either. We of course chant Vedas and act according to its dictates“ (Rig Veda 10.134.7) and “Every man should protect the other in all respects“ (Atharva 6.64.1). Again, while admitted theological differences exist between Islam and Hinduism today, no doubt exists that Prophet Muhammad and Lord Krishna both taught God’s unity and service to mankind. 8. Furthermore, Lord Krishna’s scriptures clearly prophesize Prophet Muhammad’s advent in multiple places. We provide just two. Bhavisyath Purana 3:5-8 states, “A spiritual reformer will come from a foreign land (outside Bharat) with his disciples. His name will be Mahamad. He will dwell in a desert.” Likewise, “His [Mahamad’s] followers will perform circumcision. They will not keep their hair in the form of Choti as the Brahmans do. They will keep beard. They will bring about a revolution. They will call with a loud voice [i.e. Adhaan]. They will eat meat of animals other than that of swine. They will attain purity through Jihad. Their civilization will be called Muslay [Muslim].” For the sake of brevity we will avoid further commentary on these verses as they speak volumes on their own. Suffice it to say, however, that these verses further support the argument that the same God who sent Prophet Muhammad, sent Lord Krishna. Earlier we provided Prophet Muhammad’s hadith validating Lord Krishna, and now we provide Lord Krishna’s holy scripture validating Prophet Muhammad. What further proof do we need that Prophet Muhammad and Lord Krishna are brothers cut from the same mold? 9. Finally, in the Quran, God gives Prophet Muhammad the auspicious title of Khataman Nabiyeen or Seal of the Prophets (33:41). While some limit this title’s meaning to “last,” from Hadith and authentic Arabic lexicon it is clear that the true import of “Seal” is Greatness and Validation. That is, Prophet Muhammad is called not only the greatest prophet, but also the Validation of all prophets. Thus, it makes perfect sense why Prophet Muhammad specifically called Lord Krishna a Prophet — part of his purpose in coming was to declare to the world that God did not abandon any people. Rather, God sent His guidance and prophets to all people. In doing so, Prophet Muhammad validated Lord Krishna’s truthfulness — something no prophet of any faith outside of Islam has done. Thus, as human beings we must honor and revere all those prophets because the same God sent each of them — Lord Krishna being no exception. In short, Prophet Lord Krishna was a noble, righteous, beloved one of God. Far from theological division, he is a source of unity and accord between Hindus and Muslims. Although there are quite a few inaccuracies in the article. Its interesting to note that the quran does mention hinduism. l
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