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    Wheguru Je Khalsa Wheguru Je Ke Fateh We all love to remember our Shaeeds and Kharkus, one way is with threads on forums, and we are overdue one here. I am very interested in the life style and movements of Kharkus and their Jathebandhis, so here's a few questions for the sangat, and may be we can find some answers between us. 1} Were Kharku Jathebandis regionalised ? Was one Jathebandie more prominent than others in areas. For example did KLF have more members in one area and KCF in an other. 2} Were some Jathebandies more religious than others ? Babbar Khalsa comes to mind as look like nearly all Gur- Sikhs others have non Gur-Sikhs 3} Crossing the borders of India. Its common knowledge there was training and weapons supplied by a neighbouring Country. I would Imagine the punjab (ind) Punjab (pak) would have been red hot in these times and very difficult to cross. I have read areas that the Rajistan border was used to enter Pakistan. But how did they do it with no maps. no GPS, no mobiles. I doubt there were road signs like there are now. 4} Monar in the Movement. Bhai Harjinder Singh Para , Harjinder Singh Jinda , deepa heran wala come to mind were there any more ? 5}How did they get around Punajb , ?there were easy to spot did they have vehicles, Toofan Singh movie shows them travailing on foot and stopping at the first shelter place they could find . I do know they would go to houses in pinds to eat. 6} Communication ? How did they get messages to each other as no mobiles then . 7} What does the word Kharku actually mean ?
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    I feel the same. We need to set our own house in order before helping others. Dont want to belittle Ravi singhs great work, but if only we could put our resources for helping the weaker sections of the panth first before spreading out. Jewish community is a great example of using community resources for nation and state building.
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    So Sant Ji were all liars in your book. That's what they did according to you. So what you're doing is calling the Santhiya and Gyan of Guru Gobind Singh Ji as being dishonest? I'm still waiting for you to provide me with the Carbon dated texts dating back to the age of Satyug.
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    Most of these peace prizes are given for purely political reasons.Obama got his because the Swedish liberal elites wanted to stick two fingers up at the outgoing Bush and the Republicans. That Malala girl got one because the liberal elites want to highlight girls' education in Pak/Afg as well as raise the number of Muslim Nobel prize winners.
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    I researched these posts and found some links if you want to know more about a Jatha. Part 2: Taksali Maryada:http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/code-of-conduct Other necessary Info: (Credits to @TaksalDaSingh9771) Main Taksal: Damdami Taksal 1.you live an honest life and follow Guru Granth Sahib ji. 2. Believe in dasam bani 3. Take santhiya from a taksali singh 4. Do nitnem 5. Keep taksali rehit to take Amrit if you haven't (me) 6. Believe that meat is last resort 7. Try to fight 5 chor everyday 8. Have a good heart 9. You're nitnem is: Japji Sahib, jaap sahib, tvae prasad swaye (sravag sudh) chaupai Sahib (hamri karo hath) anand Sahib 40 pauria {morning} sampooran rehras (taksali gutka) {evening} rakhiya de shabad and kirtan sohila {night} 10. Do ardas everyday for maharaj to give you rehit daan bibek daan etc. http://www.vidhia.com/Rehat Maryada/Gurmat_Rehat_Maryada_-_Damdami_Taksal.pdf http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/history/leaders http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/ http://www.damdamitaksaal.org/code-of-conduct/37-organization/56-q-a-a Nihang Maryada and links (credits to @Destruction) Main Nihang Dal: Buddha Dal http://www.shastervidiya.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/The-Fighting-Traditions-And-Fighting-Arts-Of.pdf Transliteration - Gursikhan di Puratan Maryada - Buddha Dal gutka Satguran di Gurbani da furmaan - "Gur Satgur ka jo Sikh akaaey, su bhalkey utth Har Naam dheeaavey. Udham karey bhalkey parbhaati, ishnaan karey, Amrit Sar naavey" (Mahalla 4 Vaar Gauri panna 305-6) 1. Guru ka Sikh Amrit vele utthdey samey, Ardas karey sukhan naal raat gujri, Kriya sodhan da bal bakhsho 2. Utthke jangal (medaaney) jaan samey jal da garva le ke jana. Madaan khed ke garva changi tarha sodhna (maanjna) Shehran vich bhi Latrine vich pani hove, hath saban naal saaf karne. 3. Mukh Maanjana (Datan karni) jal kol rakhna. "Kangha dono vakht kar - Paagh chunh kar bandhai. Datan neet kareye, n dukh paaveh Laal ji." (rehtnama Bhai Nand Laal Singh ji.) 4. Ishnaan thandhey jal naal karna. Sareerak avastha vichaar lenni. 5. Kacchera badlann samey ik pahauncha laahaunna ik paaaunna. Nangey modhhe ja nangey sir kacchera nahi badlana. 6. Aasan te baitth ke dumalley (dastaar) sajaaunee, godhean te hazooreean pa laina, Dastar kaccherey nu na lagey. Dastaar pech pech kar ke uthaarni, topi vang nahi laahauni - chun ke fir sees te sajauni. 7. Amrit veley pehlaa 'Vaheguru' mantar da jaap saavdhaani naal shabad-surat jorh karna, swaasan naal. 8. Dargaahi hukam mutaabak; "fir charey divas Gurbaani gavey - bahdeeaa uthdeeaa Har Naam dheeaavey" (M 4 Vaar Gauri - Panna 304-6) 9. Saverey Amrit vele Gurmantar ante Moolmantar da jaap karke, Panj banian da saverey path karey ja suney. Behdeaan uthdean, Vaheguru jaap ja Mool mantar da jaap karde rehna. (Panj Baanian : Jap Sahib Jaap Sahib, Swaiye (sravag sudh), Chaupai, Anand Sahib (Sampooran). Hor baanian khushi aavey parho. Shami - Sodar Rehraas --Aarti Aarta parhe ja suney. Saaun samey kirtan sohila da path kar ardas kar bisraam karey.) Vaheguru mantar bina hor mantar da jaap na karey. "vaheguru ke mantar bin, Jaapey aaur koi jaap. So sakat, Sikh mool nah, baacat sri mukh aap.17. (rehatnama Bhai Prahlaad Singh ji) 10. Kesi Ishnaan - Bibeki Singh reetheaan ja sucham dahi jamaie naal kesi ishnaan karey. Khulla Singh - jis naal ji chaahe karey. 11. Kes harrey karan samey nangey na rakhey, chhota patka pala upar rakhkey harrey karey (sukhaave). Kacchera badlan samey bhi kesh nangey kachhera na badley. 12. Kes pichhey sutt ke harrey na karey, Baiey ja daaey(saja ja kkabbey) kes khuley rakhke upar kesgi neeli rakhke sukaavey. 13. Kanga karan samey jo kes jharan ouhna nu pairan vich na suttey, (eh Guru ki mohar han) Sambhaal ke agan bhet devo. 14. Gilla ja sukka kacchera modheaan te na rakhey, Kesan Dahrey nu lagda he (Kacchrea kamar kassey banney) 15. Dahrha khulla rakhey Rom na chhedey, Kalaf na lavey, na kaley karan lai koi aooshudi vartey, so tankhahiaa. 16. Baana (Akaal Fauj da) Neelaa pehney(Neelaa Dastaar Neelaa Chola) Kamarkasa (Dastaar hethan Neela patka kesan naal Kesgi jaroori pehne ate Shastar) Safed kacchera terh, (pajama nahi pehrna) Sardeean vich 'Half Stop' di varto lorh anusaar keeti ja sakdi 17. Dasan Guru Sahiban da saroop sri Guru Granth Sahib Guru Saroop maney - Dasm sri Guru Granth Sahib te Sri Sarb Loh Granth Shib - Guru Vaak ucharan man ke Guru Saroop hi isht upasana karni. 18. Tek Akaal Purakh di ate parcha Shabad (Gurbaani da) rakhna. 19. Panj Piaareyan ton Khande di pahul - amrit chhak ke, (Mard) naam naal 'Singh' ate bibian 'Kaur' shabad vartan. 20. Adha nam nahi sadna poora nam sadna. 21. Panj kakaar (Kes, Kangha,Kara, Kirpan, Kachhera) eh sareer de ang samjhaney, kis vakht (ishnan karan samey ja raat saun samey) koi kakaar sareer ton vakh nahi karney. 22. Kanga danda tutta nahi vartana - do kanghe rakho, ik hovey tan danda tutan te ardas karva saabat kanga vartna. 23. Dastaar Gurmukhi sajauni , Farrhey vala Singh , Dastaar saja ke 'Farrhey da shabad (jo is gutkey vich he) yaad kar parey. 24 Farrha (Guru Ka Nishaan jaan) adab satkaar da khaas dheean rakhey. 25. Guru darbar bina ishnaan hazoori na javey, Baharon namaskar kar lavey. Jad Guru Hazoor javey panj ishnaan karke javey adab sahit namaskaar karey. Juraab pa ke na javey. 26. Amritdhari Singh - Panj kakaar di rehat dharan karey, ate kurahit ton sada bachey. a. Singh Singhani kesan naal kesgi neeli jaroor rakhey. b. Kirpan isht jaan ke har samey pehn rakhni. c. Singh Dastar dhari hove (Topi manmat te kurahit he) "Hoi Sikh topi dharey, Saat janam kushtti hoe marey." d. Rozana ishnaan karna. e.Rozana hee, Vaheguru Mantar da jaap te savere te shaam deean banian samey zaroori parhneean. f. Dharam di kirt karke vand chhakna g. Guru namit dasvand denna h. Satsang karna - Seva karna. i. Har karaj Gurmat anusaar karna. Hor matan dee rees nahi karni j. har samey sri Guru Granth Sahib ji dee ageea hukama vich chalna. k. Sach bolna. Sat, Santokh, Dheeraj Shubh gun dhaaran karney. l. Ninda karn to parhej karna. 27. Kurehatan : a. Kesan di beadbee nahi karni, Koi rom bhi sareer ton nahi chhedna (katna) b. Tamaaku (dhumar paan) sevan nahi karna. c. Kutha khana (mussalmani kalaam naal koh ke maarna), sakht varjat he. d. Musli yudh (Bhaav Par Naari da sanbhog nahi karna) , Sakht varjat he. e. Meeney-Masand-Dhirmaliye, RaamRaiey, Nari Maar Kuri maar - Sir Gumey te patit naal varton nahi karni. f. Chori-Yaari-Jooaa nakhid karam nahi karney. g. nashean ton jithon tak ho sakey bachan da yatan karna. Inna de Sundar sareer nu vasi karan nahi karna. h. Devi - Devtey - Moorti pooja (Photo pooja) Marhi - Masaani - Math - pooja, Shagan - apshagan, Tirath-Bart rakhney , Sootak - Patak, CChho - CChaat, Sraadh karney , Chhaiaa, puchheaa, Jantar-Mantar-Tantar aadh bharam karan to sada nirlep rehna, eh nahi mananney. 28. Akaal Fauj, sada shastar-dhari tyaar bar tyaar ravey. 29. Har karaj Ardas karey Satguru agay. Uthdean behanddean ishnaan karan - Naam japan - Parshad chhakan pehlan te chhakan uprant shukrana Vaheguru Akaal Purakh ji da karey. 30. Cheetah bhajae (peshaab karan te) Panj Ishnan karey. 31. Gurbani, kisey saroop vich hovey (Gutka ja pothi) swacch rumaal vich rakhey, ate kisey uchi jagha rakey, satkaar te adab rakhey. 32. Sikh Sikh te vaar na karey - gareeb di rakheea karey. 33. Dhi - Bhenan da paisa na vatte na khaey. 34. Shastar na visaarey jeha hukum he : a. 'Tanddey pani jo nahi naavey. Bin Japu parhey ju paavey.Bin Rehraas-Sandean jo khoveh. Keertan parhe bin rain ju soveh..15. Karey bachan jo paalaeh nahi. Gobind Singh tis ttaur kat nahi. b. Sikh hoe bin loh (shastar) jo firreh. Aavat jaavat janamey marey..12. (rehatnama) c. Nagan hoe baahar firhe, nagan sees jo khaae. Nagan parsad jo baitaiee, tankhahee baddo kahaee..24. d. Paag utaar parsad jo khaavey, so Sikh kumbhee narak sidhaavey. e. Bin Jap Jaap japey, jo jevah prasad. So bistta ka kiram huei, janam gavaavey baad..13.. (rehatnama Bh. Prehlaad Singh ji.) 35. Be Amriteeay naal ral ke nahi cchhakna. 36. Jithon tak ho sake sucham rakhnee (such hove t sach paaeeay) GuruVaak ja kee rehat na jaaneeay, Gur mantar nahi cheet. Ta Ka bhojan khaeeay Tootey Har Sion preet. 37. Gurmukhi akhar sikhney parhney - Gurbaani kanth karni, Gur Itihaas parna sunanna, Bacheaan nu Sikhi rehat val prer-rat karna. 38. Sri Guru Granth |Sahib ji dee hazoori suchet ho baithna, Maleen Hava nahi teeaagnee, je bevasi hovey bahar uth jana. Paath karan vala Singh hazooreeaan zaroor rakhe, Paath karde samey sareerak ang nu hath la ke koi kriya nahi karni - Hazooreeay naal karni, ajehe hath Guru Bani nu lagan te beadbi he. Naaska di mal bhi hazooreeay ja jal naal saaf karni. 39. Mool Gursikhi da sva -Bhaou, Bhagti-Simran, Jap-tap Sabar Santokh, Dharam Karam he. 40. Bihangham Singh kisse agay hath fella ke kujh mangey nahi. Sabar Santokh Guru Bharosey jo devey so khai te dirrh vishvaash rakhe. 41. Koi ajehe karam na kare jis naal Akaal Fauj de Baney te Bani di beadbi niraadar hunda hovey. 42. Singh Singh nu milan samey Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki Fateh bulaavey. Eh hukum Singh Singhni doha lai he. 43. Janam to maran tak saarey Sanskaar Gurmat naal karney. 44. Shromani Panth Akaali Buddha Dal valon manaey jaan vale purb (mahallean) te zaroor pahaunch ke hazareean bharneean, ate daswandh haazar karke Guru keean khushian praapat karneean. Shromani Panth Akaali Buddha Dal de mahalley ; a. Vaisakhi - sri Damdama Sahib , Guru ki Kanshi, Talvandi Sabo ki (Bhatinda) b. Hola Mahalla - sri Anandpur Sahib c. Vaddey Sahibzaadeyan ji di shahaadat - 8 Poh, sri Chamkaur sahib. d. cchhotey Sahibzaadeyan ji di te Mata Gujri ji di shahaadat 13 Poh , sri Fatehgarh sahib (Sirhind) e. Katak Sudi Pooranmashi (Avtaar Dihaara Patshaahi 1) Sultanpur Lodhi (Kapurthala) f. Maghi - Sri Mukhtsar g. Basant Panchmi - Patiala - Chhauni Nihang Singhan, Buddha Dal, Lower Mall Rd. 45. Kann-Nak cchedney (Singh Singhni lai vajat he - ( Saabat Soorat rehna) Ang bhang nahi karney. Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa Vaheguru ji ki Fateh ! Khalsa Rehitnama (Buddha Dal gutka page 359) Ek Onkaar sri Vaheguru ji Ki Fateh. Sri Mukh Vaak Patshaahi 10 Tab im bhaniyo gareeb nivaaj. Shastran ke adheen he raaj. Dhunn sang saarey Prabhu ji sunaai. Bina Tegh Teerang rahe nahe bhai. Bina shatran Kesang, nar bhed jano. Gahe kaan taako, kitey le sidhano. Ehey mor agia sun leh piaarey. Bina Tegh Kesang n divo deedaarey. (Gurbilaas Bhai Sumer Singh Ji) Yaatey Sarab Khalsa Suniaeh. Aayudh dhabey utham guniaeh. Jab hamre darsan ko aavoh. Ban suchet tan Shastar sajavoh. (Gurpratap Suraj rut 3 adhiaaie 23) (rehatnamean vich vee shastardhari hon bare baar baar taageed keeti he ) Kachh Kirpan Kabhu n teeaagey. Sanmukh larey n ran te bhaagey. Shastr Heen n kabhu hoee. Rehat vant Khalsa he soee. (rehatnama Bhai Desa Singh ji) Khalsa so jo chaeh turang. Khalsa so jo kareh nitt jang. Khalsa so jo shastr ko dharey. Khalsa so jo dusht kao maarey. agay safah Bhai Nand Lal Ji da. Safa ke faryand ko eion he laazma. Aapan ko beeh bisve kar rakhna. agar tuyang pari chu baashad tisey uthha kar palak n dikhna. Langot, Kachha, Kass kar baras nagey karna. Aapan ko bakhtrr turang ko paakhar surang ke mukh par bana kar kasna. annee banney to kami n karna. Hoe haror aagay hoe larna. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx9_SGzCY28 http://www.sikhanswers.com/sikh-history-personalities/who-are-nihang-singhs/ Akhand Kirtani Jatha (AKJ) https://akj.org/ AKJ differs from mainstream Sikhism in their interpretation of one of The Five Ks of Sikhism: instead of accepting the kes or "uncut hair", they interpret the command as referring to keski, a small turban, which they maintain must be worn by Sikhs of either sex. Kes is given a higher requirement. They are against any forms of meat, including Jhatka. This is a topic on gurmatbibek.com which is very much an AKJ forum. http://gurmatbibek.com/forum/read.php?3,1963 As mentioned in the name of the Jatha, they elaborate more on their Kirtan. Here are a few examples of their kirtan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B0Y4Aav_KE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rt6E4OyRl0 (I am going to keep AKJ short because their maryada and facts are really not hard to find) https://vidhia.com/Bhai Randheer Singh Ji/Autobiography-Bhai-Sahib-Randhir-Singh-Ji.pdf https://vidhia.com/Bhai Randheer Singh Ji/ Please use these links they tell you a lot of what Bhai Randhir Singh said. Nanaksar Kaleran "Nanaksar, near jagraon in Punjab is center founded by Sant Baba Nand Singh Jee, followed by Sant Baba Ishar Singh. Thereafter, they split into many branches each headed by some one claiming to be spiritual descendent of Sant Ishar Singh. Their Gurudwaras are spread all over Punjab and are found in Delhi and overeseas as well. They are distinguished by a large potrait of Guru Nanak Dev jee, which they claim is rendered by an artist on the basis of 'darshan'(vision) Sant Ishar Singh Jee had of the Guru Saheb. They wear white and all the drapings in their Gurudwaras are white. They do not accept money as an offering. However, Kadah Prasad, fabric for clothes/ dresses and other groceeries/ fruits are accepted as offering. They encourage people to bring cooked langar from their homes. Their mool mantar goes on till 'jap' following 'guruprasad'. They are normally very strong in keertan and sing very passionately and have a large number of young men who have dedicated their lives to the movement and take vow of celebacy and do not have families." From my personal experience of Nanaksar, the langar is bought from home, they believe the nanaksar gurdwara is the garden of Guru Nanak Dev Ji. http://www.philtar.ac.uk/encyclopedia/sikhism/nanak.html http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/5157-nanaksar-the-true-purpose-and-some-amazing-facts/ nanaksar rehraas sahib: https://www.scribd.com/doc/56094501/Nanaksar-Rehraas Nanaksar Aarti: http://www.scribd.com/doc/56096973/Nanaksar-Aarti All Bani's: http://nanaksarkaleran.net/otherinfo/banidownload.html Maryada (Gurmukhi): http://nanaksarkaleran.net/maryada.html Maryada English: The frequent visits of Sant Mihan Singh and Sant Amar Singh of Nanaksar (-"the Sacred Pool of Nanak") tradition resulted in the establishment of their centers, particularly in Richmond B.C. and Toronto.28 They were also responsible for conducting amrit-ceremonies in the early seventies according to their own Nanaksar Maryada, which significantly differs from the standard manual. For instance, the Panj Piare prepare amrit separately in a different room in an esoteric manner and do not allow the novices to watch the ceremony as participants. When amrit is ready, however, they invite them for initiation. They recite the complete Anand Sahib (forty stanzas), a longer version of the Benati Chaupai and complete Mulmantar (from ihk oankar to nanah hosi bhi sochu) during the amrit-ceremony. The Nanaksar tradition originated with Sant Nand Singh Kaleranwale (1871/72-1943), who enjoyed high spiritual reputation for his piety and asceticism.29 He was succeeded by Sant Ishar Singh (1916?-63)30, who built an imposing gurdwara called Nanaksar at Kaleran village, near a small town of Jagraon in Ludhiana district. He is credited with having initiated about 750,000 Sikhs with the baptism of the double-edged-sword (khande da amrii) during a brief period of his ministry between 1950 and 1963.3' When he died in 1963, he was succeeded by three contenders who set up separate seats in Nanaksar. Each of them has built up a considerable following and influence among the rural people from the neighbouring districts of Ludhiana, Ferozepur and Faridkot. Several of their followers have settled in North America and Britain during die last two decades. They follow their own Nanaksar Maryada, which includes the celebration of puranamashi (the night of full moon), the recitation of arti ("adoration") at each concluding ceremony and the devotional singing of hymns (keirtan) while Akhand Path ("unbroken reading" of the Sikh scriptures) is going on. They do not mount the Nishan Sahib (or "Sikh Flag") at their gurdwaras.32 All other Jathabandi's Other jathabandi's are basically just a group of sikhs. For example, dhadi jatha. They don't have a whole new jatha with a maryada do they? Jatha simply means a group/parade. And a jatha inside a jatha, for example a kirtani group that are akhand kirtani's, they are a smaller jatha that don't believe in anything different, just a little group. Joining a Puratan Samprada / Jatha I am no expert on these type of stuff but here are my 20 cents: To join a Samprada of any sort, you need to follow their rehit top to bottom. You are still a Sikh just different beliefs. Now to actually be in the Jatha fully, you need to take amrit from that specified Jatha. Let's say you wanted to become a Nihang, you will need to ask the current Jathedar (they have lots of headquarters) and ask him questions. Same with taksali most likely. Otherwise you can just take amrit from that Jatha and follow what they say. Remember one thing though, you are to be following your Guru, don't be a sheep and follow the Jatha just for the sake of it. Now AKJ is fairly easy too, just follow the maryada and the amrit from them.
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    Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh Hi all, I have a question about my issue of my spiritual name and I don't have a group of Gursikhs to talk about this so posting it here in hope of a response of some kind. First I will explain a bit about my background...as there maybe some who are a bit unsure when I mention Kundalini yoga and Sikhi together... Ok so overall I've done yoga since a teenager, though two years ago I started Kundalini yoga meditation with mantras e.g. Sat Nam and my life started getting better. I stopped drinking alcohol and became vege again like I did in my teens. It was at a Kundalini yoga festival I happened to drive a Sikh man (who is now a dear friend) there and while there he suggested I go to a talk on Who is Guru Nanak by Basics of Sikhi. So I did as I was listening to and singing along to music with his name in. The talk was interesting as were the values posted around the school we were in. Anyway I didn't think much about it though a few months later I watched more Basics videos and I felt drawn to go along to Simran just before my 27th birthday at my local Gurdwara. I literally just turned up at the door and thankfully someone showed me around as everything was new to me (and I still go). So fast forward a little more...a few months go by and I sign up for my yoga teacher training then a little further into that I get a spiritual name, fully it's Ajeet Amrita Kaur, though people just call me Ajeet. It's apparently based on numerology but they don't go into specifics. It was in my training I first learnt Japji Sahib, first in English then Gurmukhi. Anyway...so this Summer I went to Khalsa camp, after a magical day of meeting another Kaur while volunteering and seeing a flyer on the wall in the Gurdwara on a day I don't usually go. I just booked it and drove all the way to Wales. Totally worth it and I experienced Amrit Vela in a wonderful way, I'm learning Jaap Sahib now gradually, it's beautiful. It was there I learnt more about the name Hukamnama and it sounded wonderful! Though I have Ajeet and I like it, it suits me. Victory over obstacles. I would even consider changing to it permanently (from Alice) and it seems strange to ask for another name. Though I have doubts that I may be looked down upon for my names background. I am also confused to how it works with Kaur legally, is it a middle name or surname? Someone I know from a Kundalini background who has taken Amrit will legally change hers when she's married, though that's not me, I'd do it as I want to. So if anyone has any response or questions please comment. Thank you for your time Ajeet 🙂
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    Very! No read/ write Punjabi means Guru Granth Sahib cannot be understood. Guru Granth Sahib can ONLY and ONLY be read shudh if it in Punjabi. And if one has the ability to understand Punjabi then when listening to Gurbani it can b easily understood, if not all of it. To understand all of it one must take the farther step of listening to Guru Granth Sahib katha or read teekakars of Gurbani.
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    There's quite a few sites, but I've picked out some I thought that may help. @dallysingh101 paji used to talk about this: http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/14814-learning-to-read-write-gurmukhipanjabi-tips-on-getting-started/ Sikh channel - Learn Gurmukhi with kids: http://www.sikhchannel.tv/catch-up/learn-gurmukhi/ Bhai Jagraj Singh: Sangat TV: PS: ( Not seen Dally or MisterrSingh pajis on the forum in a while. Are they still members? )
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    I've had the same opinion for many years. I remember having a debate with Ravi Singh on Sikhnet over 16 years when Khalsa Aid was collecting money for the Gujarat earthquake. I asked him why he wasn't doing anything for Punjab and those Sikh farmers committing suicide (yes, the issue does go far that back) there who needed help. His view was that Khalsa Aid needed to gain a 'reputation' by helping in other causes first and then start projects for Punjab. I thought that was a BS excuse then and seeing how they have only done some minor work in Punjab while the vast majority of funds goes towards non-Sikhs shows that was just an excuse. His other argument was that they were only involved in humanitarian and disaster relief so they could not help the Sikh farmers! It's an unfortunate fact but Sikh organisations such as Khalsa Aid and United Sikhs are mainly only interested in rushing to help non-Sikhs while pushing the needy Sikhs to the side. Only organisation that I see which is involved in Sikh causes is Sikh Relief. They should be the ones that we should be giving donations to and not Khalsa Aid.
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    bhen ji I think you should actually approach Guru ji to get the akkar/letter of your name and select a name according to gurmat NOT numerology because that has a big Zero to do with Guru ji's path. These convoluted 'yogic' namings often seem clumsy and overworked sikh names are normally simpler just one apart from Singh/Kaur
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    Well, if you can learn Urdu, you should be able to easily learn Gurmukhi. The reason is that Urdu is a square peg fitted into a round hole. I.e., the Urdu (Arabic) alphabet was created for Arabic, not Punjabi. By contrast, Gurmukhi was specially created for Punjabi, and it includes vowel marks, too. For the most part (once you learn some simple rules), you speak words as they are written.
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    Www.ukindia.com - is the website I learnt Hindi and Urdu from. It took a few weeks.
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    So you're going to sit there, a first grader and try to argue with those who have a PhD? You have no knowledge of the scriptures or any Brahmgyani yet you're challenging the words of an institute that was started and taught by Guru Gobind SIngh Ji. That alone is arrogance and insulting the 10th Master. Where have I demeaned them? I stated what's written in Gurbani, Which says their egotistical, which also says they're lost in Maya. Is that Gurbani wrong then? Read Dasam Granth you cretin or even Chaubis Avatar, the first 37 stanzas SAY DIRECTLY that the incarnations are all lost in Maya and got lost in Maya. Guru Sahib refers to Krishna as an insect, oh look guys, I guess now Guru Sahib is demeaning them. He even penned an entire bani (Shabad Hazare Patashe 10) all of which criticises the Devtas and their incarnations. I've stated what's written in Gurbani, If that's demeaning them then go and argue with Guru Sahib as he's the one who penned it. ਸਿਵ ਸਿਵ ਕਰਤੇ ਜੋ ਨਰੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥ सिव सिव करते जो नरु धिआवै ॥ Siv siv karṯe jo nar ḏẖi▫āvai. That man who chants "Shiva, Shiva", and meditates on him, ਬਰਦ ਚਢੇ ਡਉਰੂ ਢਮਕਾਵੈ ॥੨॥ बरद चढे डउरू ढमकावै ॥२॥ Baraḏ cẖadẖe da▫urū dẖamkāvai. ||2|| is riding on a bull, shaking a tambourine. ||2|| All of them renounced the Devta, that's why their bani is within Guru Sahib. Read the works of Bhai Gurdas Ji as he states they followed the One Primal lord and not egotistical devtas. He NEVER equates them, He says Guru Nanak Dev Ji is the greatest. You tried this argument with when you stupidily claimed that Guru Gobind Singh Ji worshiped Devi. The Avatars of Vishnu came and did their deeds, but it was God acting through them. Just like it was God acting through various people in ending world war 3 God acting through various people in doing just about everything in the world. Kal yug is an age, not a demon. Stop pulling out nonsense from everywhere. There''s only been 2 instances where Kalyug has personified himself, and Ravan isn't one of them. Shiva's own foolishness resulted in his ego granting Ravan his boons, who wasn't even truly evil btw. He was actually a rather pious person. Guru Granth Sahib Ji isn't a book, that alone shows you're not a Sikh. No Sikh would call it a book, The Gurbani that came was here to COUNTER Kalyug not because he asked for it. Gurbani hurts him. Waheguru came down because Kalyug was too powerful, not because he begged for it. Shiva, an Akali? Guru Sahib calls those who worship Shiva as being donkeys who kick up the dust. Why are you purposely going against the words of Mahapurkhs and Scholars and Gurbani. I've posted quotes upon quotes and sources. You have none. In all honesty, all you've done is shown people you're nothing more than a liar who's insulted Guru Granth Sahib JI, insulted Guru Gobind Singh Ji, insulted Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, insulted Bhai Sahib bhai Randhir Singh Ji, insulted Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji and insulted multiple other Bhagats in Gurbani by comparing them to fallible beings like the Devtas. You're free to go and beg Shiva to save you, to love you and make you his slave. No one will stop you, but everyone here will happily follow Guru Sahib to the dot. Ok I'm done now. We have someone here claiming that Kalyug is a good person who did Bhagti but that Bhagti didn't do anything for him and he begged for Gurbani. Ok then.
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    I changed my thinking for past couple of years. I think we are on the wrong path. We don't care of our own who needs help and we started dozen of organizations worrying of others who really don't need our help as they have more resources.
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    Hang in there, trust me at the age of 13 life feels so weird... just give it time My advice: -Tell your pain to guru sahib in ardaas -Even if you fight with your parents, hug them, cry to them, if you have too. Tell them what you feel and what your going through -Keep as healthy as possible; and remind yourself to smile when your down. -Try to keep busy as much as possible; your mind will hurt less
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    Following are some Sat Bachans from the Bani of Dhan Dhan Satguru Sree Guru Nanak Dev Maharaj , to settle for once and all, the issue of that the trinty gods are not at all neither gurus as per the title of this thread, nor are any sargun forms of Wahiguru Akal Purukh. जा तिसु भाणा ता जगतु उपाइआ ॥ jaa this bhaanaa thaa jagath oupaaeiaa | When He so willed, He created the world. बाझु कला आडाणु रहाइआ ॥ baajh kalaa aaddaan rehaaeiaa | Without any supporting power, He sustained the universe. ब्रहमा बिसनु महेसु उपाए माइआ मोहु वधाइदा ॥१४॥ brehamaa bisan mehaes oupaaeae maaeiaa mohu vadhaaeidhaa |14| He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; He fostered enticement and attachment to Maya. ||14|| In this verse above Guru Jee is clearly saying, that, He the Supreme Lord when He so willed, He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. And not that He manifested Himself through these sargun forms. This also menas, He existed before all these gods, and exists separately from them, just as apart from all of us also, unless we do His bhakti, then we merge in Him, and become one with Him. This His bhakti, is the very unique feature of Wahiguru Akal Purukh, that whosoever performs it, He makes that jeeva one with Him. While with the gods, devtays, godesses, one reaches their dimension to reap the fruits of one´s devotion to them, but then, one returns back into the wheel of 84 sooner or later, just as these gods are the so called children of mother Maya and father Kal Purukh, the caretakers of the mayavee creation. As stated in a previous example, Ravan was the biggest devotee of Shiva, but even then, he could not rid himself from the panj chor(he was kaamee, krodhi, lobhee, mohee and ahankaree), thus he died as per his hard earned merits of his wickedness/evilness. Had he done even 1%, the bhakti of Wahiguru with the intensity he did of Shiva, it would have been more than suffice for him, to merge in Wahiguru. Why so ? Because one does not merge in Him by one´s efforts, but by His kirpa alone. No god, no devtay has the power to unite any jeeva with them and make them one with them, because they are not the ultimate truth, but rather regarding Wahiguru, the Bani tells us: ਜੀਉ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਸਭੁ ਤੇਰੀ ਰਾਸਿ Jeeo pind sabh teree raas, This body and soul are all your belonging, all the jeev atmas belong to Him. Among all the divine entities, He is the Highest : ਊਚੇ ਤੇ ਊਚਾ ਭਗਵੰਤ ॥ Oochay Tey Oochaa Bhagavant || the highest of the high, most generous God, then also nobody knows about His infinity ਕੋਇ ਨ ਜਾਨੈ ਤੁਮਰਾ ਅੰਤੁ ॥ Koe Na Jaanay Tumraa Unt || No-one knows your infinite vastness. He alone knows Himself and his grandeur ਤੁਮਰੀ ਗਤਿ ਮਿਤਿ ਤੁਮ ਹੀ ਜਾਨੀ ॥ Tumaree Gath Mith Tum Hee Jaanee || You alone know your existence and vastness . And it is to this very highest Being, should one offer one´s devotion ਨਾਨਕ ਦਾਸ ਸਦਾ ਕੁਰਬਾਨੀ ॥੮॥੪॥ Nanak Daas Sadhaa Kurbaanee ||8||4|| Nanak, Your slave, is forever surrendering to you. ||8||4|| Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, Guru Arjan, Sukhmani, Raag Gauri, Ang 268 Sat Sree Akal.
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    🍃🍃🍃 Anger comes alone, But it blocks our mind and spoils the relations. Patience too comes alone, But it releases the Tension and creates Good Relations. 🍂🍂🍂 GOD ........ Has a purpose for your PAIN, A reason for your STRUGGLES, And a gift for your FAITHFULNESS, Don't ever give up... 💐💐💐💐💐💐
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    Gurbani is never inconsistent, Mahapurkhs aren't inconsistent. What a load of tosh, who on earth are you to call them liars? You can't even begin to fathom their knowledge, yet you claim to know more. Gurbani is never inconsistent on anything, it's already stated that Shiva is egotistical, Vishnu is egotistical and Brahma is egotistical. How dare you call Gurbani a lie and then claim to be a Sikh. His Sargun form was Guru Nanak Dev Ji, it was never Shiva or Vishnu. They're part of his creation, a far far smaller aspect of him, in the same category as us. No the definition will change depending on the context. That's the teaching of the Guru, the same people who are now carrying that tradition you are calling Liars. Words have always changed depending on the context that's how Gurbani was written, that's how it always has been taught. The arths spoken by Sant Ji were passed down by Guru Gobind SIngh Ji Maharaj, to insult them is to insult Maharaj himself. So I'll ask you once again, last time, yes or no answer please. Are all the Sants and Mahapurkhs wrong when they define the words? Do you think you know better? Are they all liars?
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    And Who gave him that Name, wait for it...it was humans....after he asserted he was God. All names are traced back to God, not the other way around. Anyone with half a brain can see that. No pracharik has done that, That's the Sanithya taught by Guru Gobind Singh Ji that the Taksal is teaching, that every Brahmgyani teaches. According to you all of them are wrong. What a creature you are. Are they all liars in your book? No it's not. History is what's written by humans, not the History Guru Sahib taught. If you want to argue history then lets do so. The Vedas themselves are constantly changed, infact the ones written now are completely different from when they were first prescribed. So please find the texts that existed during Satyug because the tradition was always oral and the oldest ones are traced back to a couple of hundred years BC. Again with this stale and stupid argument. The only way it has infinite meaning is if you look at it from the glass of Gurmat. Which you cant since you've never even read Gurbani clearly. The fact that Chaupai Sahib calls people who consider Shiva as lord as being "High fools" is evidence of that. An atheist can play around with Gurbani to mean that its nothing more than metaphors for knowledge and that God isn't real. I guess they're right too. I'm the one changing it? this is the Santhiya and arths taught by Guru Gobind Singh Ji to the taksal, these are the arths given by Brahmgyanis. None of it is my own interpretation. So are they all liars? So Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji is dishonest? So Sant Jarnail Singh JI is dishonest as well? So every Mahapurkh who stated the facts such as Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji are they all dishonest? all you've done here is show you're nothing more than a cretin who's lying through his teeth. The fact of the matter is your Lord Shiva is nothing more than a beggar at the Doors of the Mahapurkhs as he's lost in Maya like everyone else. Vishnu is the same and Brahma is the same. Fact. Written and penned by the 10th Master. I've shown you the Gurbani, I've shown you Katha by Mahapurkhs. So i'll ask you a direct question, are they all liars?
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    Reply wasn't pointed at you but generally speaking about this forums aim/mission etc..
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    What I find intriguing is the rapid shift in Da'wah strategy being employed by Muslims. In my experience whereas before they were attempting to exonerate Islam from the accusations being hurled at it, they are now attempting to contend that all faiths have a similar strain of elitism (for a better want want of expression) as is found in Islam. I acquired the following from a social media group where a Muslim attempted to argue that akin to Kafir and Muslim, Sikhs have the Gurmukh-Manmukh disparity. 'Given the "grooming" phenomena which is prevalent in the Pakistani Community (though all communities have their fair share of devils) we are not surprised that in order to exonerate their faith, from the negative attention it continually receives, some Muslims feel justified in disseminating fallacious propaganda regarding other faiths. Below are some new absurdities which a Da'wah group has come up with in order to contend that equal to Islam's "Conformist-Infidel" dichotomy is Sikhi's "Gurmukh-Manmukh" principle. Is this verifiable in light of the "evidence" which they have provided? Or is there more to the latter than meets the eye? Let us scrutinize the matter closely. The central thesis of this absurd, and somewhat humorous, contention is that "Gurmukh" (Guru-oriented) evolved into a more narrow term after the first Nanak rendering non-Sikhs "Manmukhs" Ipso facto. Point 1: Cherry-Picking Shabads to substantiate their fallacies. Bhai Gurdas's Vaar 5, Pauri 7 (of 21) is quoted to the effect: "Without the Guru's Shabad and sadh-sangat even good persons find no liberation." On a Prima facie basis, Bhai Gurdas seems to be implying that a non-Sikh who is righteous is doomed to spiritual damnation because they are not a Sikh. The proselytizer desperately needs to do this in order to exonerate his/her faith and instead direct the stigma towards Sikhi. Let us, however, scrutinize the full vaar and comprehend it in it's proper context: "ਜਤ ਸਤ ਸੰਜਮ ਹੋਮ ਜਗ ਜਪੁ ਤਪੁ ਦਾਨ ਪੁੰਨ ਬਹੁਤੇਰੇ। Hypocrisy by and large enters into the praxis of continence, burnt offerings, feasts, penances and gifts. ਰਿਧਿ ਸਿਧਿ ਨਿਧਿ ਪਾਖੰਡ ਬਹੁ ਤੰਤ੍ਰ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਅਗਲੇਰੇ। Incantations and spells ultimately turn out to be hypocritical plays. ਵੀਰਾਰਾਧਣ ਜੋਗਣੀ ਮੜ੍ਹੀ ਮਸਾਣ ਵਿਡਾਣ ਘਨੇਰੇ। The worship of the fifty-two heroes, of the eight yoginis of cemeteries and of places of cremation leads to whopping dissimulation. ਪੂਰਕ ਕੁੰਭਕ ਰੇਚਕਾ ਨਿਵਲੀ ਕਰਮ ਭੁਇਅੰਗਮ ਘੇਰੇ। People are obsessed with the pranayam exercises of the inhalation, suspension of breath, the exhalation, the niolr feat and straightening of kundalini the serpent power. ਸਿਧਾਸਣ ਪਰਚੇ ਘਣੇ ਹਠ ਨਿਗ੍ਰਹ ਕਉਤਕ ਲਖ ਹੇਰੇ। Many employ themselves in sitting in the siddhasanas and thus we have seen them seeking myriad miracles. ਪਾਰਸ ਮਣੀ ਰਸਾਇਣਾ ਕਰਾਮਾਤ ਕਾਲਖ ਆਨ੍ਹੇਰੇ। The belief in the philospher's stone, the jewel in the serpent's head and the miracle of life immortalising elixir are nothing but the darkness of ignorance. ਪੂਜਾ ਵਰਤ ਉਪਾਰਣੇ ਵਰ ਸਰਾਪ ਸਿਵ ਸਕਤਿ ਲਵੇਰੇ। People are engaged in the worship of idols of gods and goddesses, in fasting, uttering and giving blessings and curses. ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦ ਵਿਣੁ ਥਾਉ ਨ ਪਾਇਨਿ ਭਲੇ ਭਲੇਰੇ। But without the holy congregation of the saints and the recitation of the Guru- sabad even the very good person cannot find acceptance. ਕੂੜ ਇਕ ਗੰਢੀ ਸਉ ਫੇਰੇ ॥੭॥ The superstitions bind themselves with a hundred knots of falsehood." -(Vaaran Bhai Gurdas, Vaar 5, Pauri 7/21). In light of the above it emerges that the Bhai is not downplaying the concept of righteous non-Sikhs. Rather, he is satirizing society's perception of a "good person." Performing ostentatious acts of worship and charity are futile if one, clandestinely, engages in vice over and over again. If one is impure from within ('Jeoh Maile Baroh Nirmal-' Anand Sahib), outward purity is rendered hollow in the Divine Court. The Bhai's derision of such "good people" is made evident at the end when he declares (all thanks to the Da'wah crew for providing such an acute translation): "Without the Guru's Shabad and sadh-sangat even good persons find no liberation..." Is this in any way different from what Guru Nanak declares in his Bani? "Make compassion thy cotton, contentment thy thread, modesty thy knot and truth the twist. This is the sacred thread of the soul; if one be in your possession then put it around me. It breaketh not, filth soils it not, fire burns it not, it is not misplaced." -(Asa Ki Vaar, SGGS, Ang. 471). By attempting to play on limited knowledge, the proselytizer desires to twist the Guru's word and substitute it with their own falsehoods. Point 2: Distortion of Gurbani and Sikh history. In an attempt to "evidence" that the first Nanak's teachings were different from his successors' the proselytizer asserts that as time progressed, "Gurmukh" became a more narrower term for each successive generation of Sikhs. Let us divide this section into sub-sections for ease of comprehension. A.) It is asserted that Guru Nanak Dev Ji never emphasized upon the need for obtaining a Guru, vis-a-vis liberation, and later Gurus construed this principle in order to establish the equivalent of "Kafir-non Kafir." Unfortunately for the proselytizer: "Without the Guru, how can anyone swim across to obtain peace?" -(Guru Nanak Dev Ji, SGGS, Ang. 20). B.) It is asserted that Guru Amar Dass Ji shut off liberation to non-Sikhs by declaring: "Without the true Guru, there is no Guru at all; one who is Guru-less has a bad reputation." (SGGS, Ang. 435). Who is this true Guru? The aforementioned Guru, himself, informs us: "Seek and find such a true Guru, who shall lead you to the true Lord." -(SGGS, Ang. 30). Furthermore: "Oh Nanak, the one light has dual forms; through the Shabad union is obtained." -(Ibid). The true Guru is Shabad, the ageless spiritual wisdom. One is left wondering as to how these proselytizers function. It should be clear by even a cursory glance at Sikh history that the third Guru played a pivotal role in collating the words of non-Sikhs and preparing the ground for their inclusion in the Sikh canon. If he truly regarded them as "manmukhs," why would he desire to have their words collated in a "Gurmukh," going by the proselytizer's logic, scripture? The theological implication here is clear, conversion is not the sole aim of Sikh liberation. Non-Sikhs can reside in their faiths and if possible locate spiritually enlightened souls who can lead them to the "true Lord." The true Guru is one who manifests the spiritual truths of Bani, which pre-date Sikhi itself, in their life and we acknowledge that non-Sikhs too can do this. The inclusion of Bhagat Bani and Bhatt Bani should be evidence enough of this. C.) Guru Ram Dass Ji continued the tradition of constraining "Gurmukh." The Shabad which apparently substantiates this claim is the following: "Oh Nanak, in the shops of the city of the human body, the Gurmukhs buy the merchandise of the Lord's name." -(SGGS, Ang. 95). How this implies that only Sikhs can be Gurmukhs eludes any sane individual. But maybe the proselytizers possess a different mental build? The concept of "true Guru" and "Sadh-Sangat' are also found in the words of the 15 Bhagats who pre-date Sikhi. We provide an example from the works of Kabir (quoted in the SGGS): "Without the Sadh-Sangat, the company of the Holy, without vibrating and meditating on the Lord God, one does not reside in the truth..." and, "Sayeth Kabir, to cross over the terrifying world ocean, I have taken to the shelter of the true Guru..." -(SGGS, Ang. 336). Guru Nanak Dev Ji was not even born when Kabir wrote these verses so how can Kabir, then, be referring to the "exclusivity" which the proselytizer claims is inherent in Sikhi? The ninth Guru informs us: "Renounce thy hubris and attachment to Maya; focus your consciousness on the Lord's meditation. Sayeth Nanak, this be the path to liberation. Become Gurmukh and attain it." -(SGGS, Ang. 219). There is nothing exclusive to Sikhi in this verse. All spiritual traditions emphasize upon renouncing hubris and false attachment. In light of the latter, then, a question emerges. If "Gurmukh" evolved into a more constrictive term with passage of time, then why did the ninth Nanak possess such an open definition of the term? We advice all Da'wah crews, targeting Sikhs, to try harder next time and maybe they will get somewhere. Fortunately for them, though, as Sikhs we can concur with them on one point: "Truth being made clear from falsehood." By their falsehoods, the truth of Sikhi emerges ever stronger and ever shining.'
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    I think it's a publicity stunt by Jaspreet Singh No Caste Singh. It is general knowledge that Kirpan isn't allowed in Embassies & on Airplanes.
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    I think you missed the point of the video.
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    Life´s journey Enjoy the ride. There is no return ticket. George Carlin on aging! (Absolutely Brilliant) IF YOU DON'T READ THIS TO THE VERY END, YOU HAVE LOST A DAY IN YOUR LIFE. George Carlin's Views on Aging HOW TO STAY YOUNG 1. Throw out nonessential numbers. This includes age, weight and height. Let the doctors worry about them. That is why you pay them. 2. Keep only cheerful friends. The grouches pull you down. 3. Keep learning. Learn more about the computer, crafts, gardening, whatever, even ham radio. Never let the brain idle. 'An idle mind is the devil's workshop.' And the devil’s family name is Alzheimer's. 4. Enjoy the simple things. 5. Laugh often, long and loud. Laugh until you gasp for breath. 6. The tears happen. Endure, grieve, and move on. The only person, who is with us our entire life, is ourselves Be ALIVE while you are alive. 7. Surround yourself with what you love , whether it's family, pets, keepsakes, music, plants, hobbies, whatever. Your home is your refuge. 8. Cherish your health: If it is good, preserve it. If it is unstable, improve it. If it is beyond what you can improve, get help. 9. Don't take guilt trips. Take a trip to the mall, even to the next county; to a foreign country, but NOT to where the guilt is. 10. Tell the people you love, that you love them, at every opportunity. AND, ALWAYS REMEMBER: "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away" Please do share this with someone. We all need to live life to its fullest each day!! "Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally used up and worn out, shouting '...man, what a ride!'⁠⁠⁠⁠
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    This is a good one. @Big_Tera paji, I suggest you go to your doctor, who will be able to advise on the correct treatment. Some info for the leg: http://www.nhs.uk/chq/pages/1050.aspx?categoryid=72 http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/broken-leg/Pages/Introduction.aspx https://patient.info/health/sprains-and-strains-leaflet
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    THERE IS NO ENEMY OUTSIDE OUR SOUL THE REAL ENEMIES LIVE INSIDE US: ANGER, EGO, GREED AND HATE. ONE OF THE HARDEST LESSONS IN LIFE IS LETTING GO WHETHER IT IS GUILT, LOVE, LOSS OR BETRAYAL. CHANGE IS NEVER EASY WE FIGHT TO HOLD WE FIGHT TO LET GO HAPPINESS CAN NOT BE TRAVELED TO OWNED, EARNED, WORN OR CONSUMED HAPPINESS IS THE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE OF LIVING EVERY MINUTE WITH LOVE, GRACE, AND GRATITUDE. Sat Sree Akal.
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    I was angry at myself i mean how could i miss such a thing right?
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    Taksal and nihangs are not jathebandi, they are puratan sampradas from the times of the guru.
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    And shouldn't you ponder the gurbani? Why shouldn't you question it? Why not be critical? When we write essays or analyses in English or whatever we are always critical we are analytical. How is learning done? People criticize Sri Krishna all the time, you criticize him Vishnu Shiva Brahma Devi all the time, but you do not just criticize them you demean, degrade and lower them as lesser beings while some see them as the very form if God as you do Guru Nanak. What is wrong with criticism? Sure to criticize and question is one thing. But to demean someone's belief is another. There are so many Hindu and Brahmin poets in guru grant sahib, all the bhats are high caste brahmin, swami parm anand, guru of bhagat Kabir, dhanna Jatt, Ravi das, sain nai was also Brahmin. How can you tell me for sure that these bhagats denounced Vishnu and did not hold Guru Nanak or Vishnu at the same level?????? There is even a quote in bani where Bhat Kal equates guru nanak with Vishnu. What are you going to do about that?
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