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  1. 3 points
    Whether these chains are invented or not is not the point. The point is that a normal Muslim has no problem with accepting these hadiths and sees no contradiction between his firmly held belief that Mohammed was the best of human beings and a 'mercy' to mankind and yet he allowed his followers to rape captured pagan Arab women. A negative portrayal of Mohammed specially if it was widely accepted among his followers such as the salih Hadiths are, point to their being more likely to be true because his followers would have wanted to present a positive portrayal of Mohammed when they came into contact with non-Muslims. You have to weigh up whether they wanted to present the true Mohammed as he was or a false one in order to attract converts. That's a big claim to make because no where in the Quran does it abolish slavery and the verses giving permission for carnal relations between the Master and his female slave negates your above statement. For Paedophilia one has to look at the example of Mohammed from the Hadiths. Clearly the Quran states that Mohammed's conduct is a 'beautiful' example for Muslims. So because Mohammed married a CHILD than a Muslim should also want to a marry a CHILD hence Islamic Paedophila and by extension Islamic child rape gangs which amalgamate the paedophilia with the sex slavery allowed in the Quran. The leadership of ISIS aren't some religious novices who have perverted Islam, they in fact follow Islam to the core and are probably the best example of what Mohammed were he to be alive today would be doing!
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    Brother Balkaar, please can you educate if the above from the Quran was either supported or condemned by Bhai Mardana Ji and perhaps you can tell us whether you support the above support of slavery in the Quran? Surah 65 Ayat 4 permitting pedophilia is as below for you: https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Islam_and_Pedophilia Pedophilia in the Qur'an Main Article: Pedophilia in the Qur'an The Qur'an permits pedophilia. The following Qur'anic verse allows sex with pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated. And (as for) those of your women who have despaired of menstruation, if you have a doubt, their prescribed time shall be three months, and of those too who have not had their courses; and (as for) the pregnant women, their prescribed time is that they lay down their burden; and whoever is careful of (his duty to) Allah He will make easy for him his affair. Qur'an 65:4
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    Only shameless non Sikhs can dare question the Gurus. Had the Gurus not been there these retards would still be living a life of downtrodden Muslim slaves.
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    Thanks for the vote of confidence but without sounding egotisitcal have already turned down a previous offer as I'm no longer an active member here or any other forum for that matter, usually read the little I find interesting or comment where I feel strongly about something. My vote goes to @Jonny101 The reason is I like his posts the most. His understanding and knowledge is greater than mine and the vast majority of time I agree with his train of thought and well balanced Panthic soch.
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    Being a moderator, please report posts/threads if you think that should not be on sikhsangat. We will take swift action. Gurfateh !
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    I think mostly it is related to stress and lack of sleep. That said. I think you should follow ms514 pajis advice on letting the white hair go and having it . Even if you became a yogi, you can only slow the aging process and never stop it completly. Like our guru says in SGGS, everyday sons go 1 day closer to akal purukh. VJKK VJKF /Cloud
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    The law says murder is imprisonment for 25 years But the judge decides to give early parole. Now that's judges grace Similarly as you please God he destroys karma and opens bajar kapat within
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    Definitely need mods that can put aside their personal associations and beliefs to be fair minded and not express favoritism for any group, treating all Sikh groups fairly and stop any group from being bashed. Bring the hammer down on profanity (explicitly or other#@& stated), personal attacks and stick to the forum rules.
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    Look, anyone familiar with my post history knows that I myself have made several claims in the past about Muhammad being a paedophile/slaver/warlord, and about Islam being a false religion, very similar to the those which you and proactive sahib have posted here. I reached these conclusions from my study of the man-made books the Koran and Hadiths. I now believe that this was always just my manmat. Guru Gobind Singh Ji is no man but the antarjami Akal Purakh himself, and he says of Muhammad and Islam in Zafarnama: Na Danaam ki een mard paimaan shikan Ke daulat prast ast iman Fikan Na Iman Prasti na auzai Na Sahib shanasi Muhammad Yakeen Har aan kas ki iman prasti kunad Na peiman kudash pesho pasti kunad Maharaj says that Aurangzeb does not follow Islam and has not comprehended its meaning. He also accuses Aurangzeb of having no faith in Prophet Muhammad, and that no man who believes in his faith makes false promises. If everything you say about Muhammad and Islam is true, and Maharaj knew it and said the above about him in spite of it, I would leave Sikhi this very second. But I feel I know enough about Maharaj's character through his own Bani that he would never speak in the above terms about a paedophile or a slaver, therefore I believe Muhammad, and Islam, cannot be what Muslims say they are. I was wrong for a long time, and I believe you are wrong too. I don't care if every Muslim on earth and every book ever written about Islam says Muhammad was a paedophile or a slaver, if Maharaj says anything which gives me reason to suspect that this may not be true I will take his word over the entire world. I think my time on this forum is over. So many of the things I've written over the years have been the products of my manmat, and the hatred and anger I have in my heart. I spared nobody from it, not Muslims, not Hindus, not Christians and not other Sikhs. Maharaj tells us how we might find him, and it isn't through clever discussions and arguments, but by seeing only Him in every person we meet, like Bhai Kanhaiya did, whether they are Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Sikh. This forum has done everything it can for me, I now have a much clearer idea of what to do next. One final thing before I go, thank you, truly, to all of you my brothers and sisters. I have learned so much about Sikhi and about myself through from talking to all of you here, and though you may not even be aware of it, you have been an invaluable support to me in the absence of any physical Gursikh sangat. (Some of you in particular, I believe you know who you are deep down, must find a way to bring your knowledge to Sikhs in the real world, rather than letting it languish here in a virtual bubble. You are the qaum's future, try to make it a good future). I wish you all the best of luck, Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
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    Calm, haha, if only you knew. Criteria for an Admin should be someone with far more time on their hands than I, so quick to respond. Lets say no more than a 2 day SLA. Ideally Amritdhari and one who keeps minimum rehat. Cool headed, approachable, devoid of swearing at any given moment or without thought. (I'm guilty of this at least x2) Good grasp of Gurbani and well read (Sikhi wise) - or at least knows how to use Google Understands Politics and GOI/RSS tactics Is aligned to the Panthic Maryada Not biased towards one Jatha The list can be endless, I hope the right candidate is found - someone maybe set up a poll, excluding me as a choice!
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    That's easily answered. The proposals came to them, they weren't actively seeking them. That same style of question is used by anti-Sikh elements to say woman are inferior in Sikhism as there were no "woman" Gurus, Why there are no female writers in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, why Guru Sahib took avtar in so called "khatri" caste and so on and so forth. Marriage proposals were constantly coming into their house, They simply picked the one who was destined to take Avtar as Guru Sahib's Mehal. Only the blind see the caste, As Batichar Natek makes it clear there are always forces at work on why certain divine beings come into certain families. ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਮੇਰੀ ਜਾਤ ਅਰ ਪਤ ॥ makes it abundant all Sikhs have no caste, sure call them whatever you want with respect to their occupation, but adding their so called Caste into it is an oxymoron of the highest degree, almost akin to blasphemy and completely against Guru Gobind Singh Ji's words. But the so called Punjabi Caste System is based entirely in the Hindu one, So if you have any respect for Guru Gobind Singh Ji then follow his words.
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    I had the exact same thought, I thought it was Dhadi doing god awful things.
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    Your karams are in constant flux. Think of them as like a wave, rising and falling. Gurprasad and Kirpa of Akaal will completely negate them, even doing good and saintly things is helpful in Karam. Your death that was prescribed on your head, with the power of the Shabad Guru, completely gone.
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    I read cassette alarm, and thought who has that anymore? Then saw that the OP was from 2004 LOL!
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    That is why it is called grace. He alone gives to us despite our karam. He is capable of cancelling out our karams.
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    I guess Tej prefers to show his bald head to people?
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    Agree, one has to do their research and see for themselves, instead of insulting all Sants/Mahapurshs. They were not like the ones that are pakhandis of nowadays or that don't follow Sikhi and divert people elsewhere. They put many people on the right path and saved many lost souls from following the wrong path.
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    Since this is your assignment, how about you research yourself ? or are you expecting us to do your homework ? Anyways, since you put effort in framing this question, I will attempt to give you a headstart. 1) What sets sikhs apart from other indians is our religion and our identity . Our turbans and our uncut hair distinguish us from others . 2) We're less than 2% of population, but have held and are still holding influential and respectable posts in india. Sikhs have been on almost every top post of indian service, be it PM, president, chief justice of supreme court, Indian army chief, Indian airforce chief (who's still a sikh) . In this way, most sikhs are respectable and law abiding citizens who have given much to india despite their numbers being less than 2% and having suffered trauma of 1947 and 1984. 3) Sikhism is youngest religion of indian subcontinent, and is the last of the dharmic religions. 4) Sikhs have suffered multiple genocides in just their short history of 500 period. The entire 18th century was hostile to sikhs. 5) Sikhs believe in the concept of saint-soldier , which is unlike other religious traditions of india . (I hope you can carry on from here ... )
  22. 1 point
    There are whole Astapadis in Sukhmani Sahib on the virtues of Saints, so be sceptical, but if these Saints are remembered so many years onwards, it shows they were special
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    Dharm raaj will judge. An hasaab is done of all deeds and which of those were destined as per karma. Your own deeds of bothe good and bad on this new life's account are what you tally up under the free will banner. I can give you plenty of quotes from gurbani that show GOD is and WILL judge This is done through devotees Dahramraaj, Chitr and Gupt. DESTINY -> is PRE-DETERMINED by the EK ONKAAR. >>>> I can show you plenty of gurbani quotes if you insist. You are correct that DESTINY comes after KARMAs>>> ie. Destiny is pre-determined after the account of karams. since "KARMAI AVAI KAPRAH" The kaprah is only worn on your soul and determined from the karams of SOUL. But, DESTINY, >>is determined as to where your Kaprah, that will now contain your ego, soul and body will endure in this lifetime.. The DESTINY is for KAPRAH. Whether you become rich lawyer or poor burger flipper will not matter to your soul. Your soul will depart with only the treasure of NAAM-if you get it and the new hasaab of KARAMS wiped or gathered. DESTINY won't come into equation.
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    Also, please help in reporting trolls by reporting their profile to us.
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    yes! We sure do need a few active moderators. The reason why we don't keep new moderators is because in waaay past, we seen them deleting stuff because of their biased viewpoint. But it it's better to have a clean forum. We will contact few folks. Thanks for recommending some..
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    This claim is verified by the descendants of Bhai Mardana living today, self-professed Muslims all, who are naturally something of an authority on the matter of their own family's history. The Quran endorses neither slavery nor paedophilia. These claims are made in the Hadiths, which are not religious scripture at all but collections of highly unreliable historical anecdotes supposedly concerning Muhammad. None of these were ever written down until they first were, which was well over a century and a half after Muhammad's death. As a result nobody compiling these hadith could be 100% sure that any of them were true, and certain Muslims no doubt took advantage, justifying their own selfish motivations or opinions by inventing fictions associating Muhammad with similar thoughts and behaviors which no-one living could disprove for certain. No honest student of history can take the Hadiths seriously. Gurbani says Muhammad was sent by God himself (and later lost his way due to hankaar), I do not believe Maharaj would say this about a paedophile or a slaver, rather I'm convinced that many of the things Muslims say about Muhammad and Islam, based on Hadith rather than Quran, are untrue. My understanding of 'Islam' is formed around this belief, and around my readings of the Quran. Need to be wary of conflating these pseudo-historical myths about Muhammad with the actual philosophy of Islam, which is in agreement with Sikhi on a number of important points. Bhai Mardana was a Muslim and a Sikh in this sense, though even the labels Muslim and Sikh ultimately mean nothing to Waheguru.
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    VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Had same heerae at same age as you before marriage. Plenty of heerae (white hair) now. Now married and a family man. Don't worry about it. If you are healthy, have enough sleep, not too much stress, it may be genetic or just the way your body is. Don't worry about it. It's not the heerae that look bad, it is our unrealistic expectation that we will be ever youthful. The body is ever changing. Change your perception and learn to understand the natural beauty that Akaal Purakh has given you. http://dailysikhupdates.com/Amp/guru-gobind-singh-jis-response-to-a-singh-who-plucked-a-white-hair/
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    Great news paji jaspindjy and other non-sikh trolls seem to have recently come on here infiltrating this forum to abuse other members, promote their castism and other anti-sikh ideologies to generally cause mayhem diverting topics to get them closed down. Its a tactic that must be nipped in the bud by having these new lost post count users spotted early and warned before being banned. Can we have more mods on here? And them more known to the forum so that we know who to go to if we have more non-sikh trolls come on.
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    Mods, can we have this jaspindjy banned please i knew he was dodgy from day one these recent low post fake accounts made by non-sikh pro-caste trolls are probably hindutva shiv sena supporters just here to make sikhs to fight amoungst themselves and divert topics.
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    We Sikhs are #1 enemies of Sikhi today. We do more to harm our own faith than any Hindu or Musalman.
  32. 1 point
    you mean like this Its puratan mareyada and it will never change till sikhi remains on this earth ... HATERZ gona HATE