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    For the sake of options I nominate myself, as moderator, if anyone else has any other mod choices, do nominate them as well.
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    So to tell the truth about your founder is insulting him! Either your founder was a man of his time and his morality was the morality of the 7th century or his morality is one that should be emulated by Muslims for all time. How can a man who bedded a CHILD of NINE years of age be called the perfect example for mankind! I have a straight question for you and answer it before trying to muddy the issue with word games. Just a straight YES or NO. WOULD YOU ALLOW A MAN of 50 YEAR OR OVER TO MARRY YOUR NINE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER OR SISTER? After you answer that question we can go and question the dubious morality you follow by discussing the SEX SLAVERY and RAPE that Mohammed allowed his followers to engage in. So the most you have is that Muslims are a big part of Sikh history whereas Sikhs are a small part of Muslim history? Really, I thought that was the worst of your arguments but since you will engage in such infantile arguments I will answer that. Yes, Muslim were a big part of Sikh history. They were the ones who claimed to have wiped out Sikhism on two separate occasions in the 18th century. They desecrated the Darbar Sahib in the same century. They martyred Guru Tegh Bahadur who spoke out for the freedom of religion for all people. The Muslims also swore on the Quran when asking Guru Gobind Singh to vacate Anandpur Sahib and then attacked him. The Muslims also engaged in genocidal massacres of Sikhs and committed the most inhuman atrocities. The Muslims placed a bounty on every Sikh head. So is that what you mean that Muslims were such a big part of our history? I am sure the Nazis are also a big part of the Jewish story now but one would be hard put out see a Nazi on a Jewish forum putting that as an argument against Judaism! Your true nature is evident here. No doubt there were Muslims who were friends of the Gurus but these Muslims were essentially going against the Sharia and if you want to place some emphasis on their Muslim identity then that is up to you. Islam has ripped off a huge amount of the teachings of those two religions. The reason why this is an issue and the similarities between Sikhism and Hinduism is not is the Mohammed's religion before he made Islam with the imaginary being in a cave was Arab paganism.Guru Nanak was born in a Hindu family and his ancestral religion was Hinduism. It is quite amusing that you state that Sikhism is an amalgamation of Hinduism and Islam but the Quran having Biblical stories and Jesus mentioned the most times of any person are just SIMILARITIES! Mohammed having had a fit in the cave and hallucinated about a being half strangling him and then he needed a CHRISTIAN to convince him that it was an angel. This was after he had contemplated committing SUICIDE because of this encounter. This was to show the other Muslim who was claiming to be a Muslim Jat that his superiority complex about 'his' Punjab was idiotic given that he was forced to learn another language just to follow his religion. You claim that your responses are destroying my post is just what we have come to expect from Muslims on this forum. They tend to lurk around like a bad smell and reveal themselves at various times and then having their founder's dubious moral slung back at them run off with their tails between their legs. You are no different. That's all very interesting but for us Sikhs whether you are the descendant of a Abu Bakr or a Mohammed makes no difference to us. You claim an Arab and then a Persian lineage. Could you be a descendant of Ali who forcibly married (more like raped) the daughter of the Persian Shah? So how does it feel to only exist because a rapacious Arab raped a Persian princess? I must say that the amount of times I have come across Muslims from Pakistan claiming descent from Arabs one would think these Arabs were raping all and sundry back in their day! So you have the highest bloodline in the Islamic world and but choose not to reveal in.. then pray great one why do we Sikhs have the great honour of having this revealed to us! You are no different to a Hindu Lohar who on becoming a Muslim suddenly become a Sheikh! Since you seem to have done some research into your ancestry which one of your descendants was the one who was raped by the Arabs? Which was the one who had a sword on his neck and suddenly the 'truth' of Islam became evident to him? Be honest your bloodline is as imaginary as your logic. Anyone with any logic would have left Islam years ago knowing what a immoral person Mohammed was. But then I suppose the threat of death if one leaves Islam might be a barrier to being free. So what exactly is original about your religion from Christianity and Judaism? Apart from .. let me think.. a heaven that's like a whorehouse.. a 'prophet' who raids caravans, rapes a women after murdering her husband and family, marries a child of 9, orders the murder of poets who criticise him and a whole host of other crimes. As for the teachings of Sikhism how could the sublime teachings of our Gurus make sense to someone who thinks that when he dies the best he can hope for is virgins with unbreakable hymens and rivers of milk and wine! But if he doesn't get there he will be in the hell fire and the 'most merciful' Allah will make sure that his skin is burnt and that it is again replaced to be burnt again and so it goes on forever. You have to have Waheguru's kirpa to be able to progress from the 7th century beliefs of a desert dweller of dubious morals to the sublime teachings of Sikhi. Ohh I am meant to tremble before your threat to bring 'islamic' philosophical and theological religious arguments? So who are you.. Dawah man.. the Greek <banned word filter activated>..Mo Hijab...the internet is full of dawah idiots who make a reputation for themselves preaching BS to non-Muslims who have never read the Quran or Hadiths. Do you think that any BS you can come up will over ride the fact that your 'prophet' had morals worst than Ram Raheem? That the whorehouse you claim as heaven has an attraction for someone who believes in the Gu
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    Gurbani has an answer for non Sikhs like you ( stop pretending to be a Sikh, you are just a casteist mindset ignorant individual who has no understanding of Sikhi. Those having the false pride of caste are called "fool" and "ignorant" in the Gurbani. To put it otherwise, as the Gurbani indicates, those who practice caste distinction and feel pride of their belief in Jaat-Paat are foolish and spiritually ignorant beings. ਜਾਤਿ ਕਾ ਗਰਬੁ ਨ ਕਰਿ ਮੂਰਖ ਗਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਇਸੁ ਗਰਬ ਤੇ ਚਲਹਿ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਵਿਕਾਰਾ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਚਾਰੇ ਵਰਨ ਆਖੈ ਸਭੁ ਕੋਈ ॥ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਿੰਦ ਤੇ ਸਭ ਓਪਤਿ ਹੋਈ ॥੨॥ ਮਾਟੀ ਏਕ ਸਗਲ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥ ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਭਾਂਡੇ ਘੜੈ ਕੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹਾਰਾ ॥੩॥ ਪੰਚ ਤਤੁ ਮਿਲਿ ਦੇਹੀ ਕਾ ਆਕਾਰਾ ॥ ਘਟਿ ਵਧਿ ਕੋ ਕਰੈ ਬੀਚਾਰਾ ॥੪॥: Jaat kaa garab n kar moorakh gavaaraa. Is garab te chalahi bahut vikaaraa ||1||Rahaaou||...: Do not be proud of your (higher or ਉੱਚੀ) Jaati, you ignorant fool! So much Bikaar comes from this pride. ||1||Rahaaou|| Every one says there are four Varan (four social classes or caste - Brahmin, Khatri, Vaish, Shoodar - but) all emanate from God's Seed (from One Light). ||2|| As the potter shapes all sorts of vessels, similarly, so is this entire universe (shaped from One Clay of God's Light). ||3|| The five elements join together, to make up the form of the human body. Who can say which has less (elements), and which has more (elements)? ||4|| (sggs 1127-1128).
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    Thanks for the vote of confidence but without sounding egotisitcal have already turned down a previous offer as I'm no longer an active member here or any other forum for that matter, usually read the little I find interesting or comment where I feel strongly about something. My vote goes to @Jonny101 The reason is I like his posts the most. His understanding and knowledge is greater than mine and the vast majority of time I agree with his train of thought and well balanced Panthic soch.
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    There is no way of knowing whether those who claim to be Bhai Mardana's descendants are really his descendants. Most Mirasi families claim to be spiritual descendants of Bhai Mardana but that is the same as some castes claim Bhagat Ravidass as their own. I think we need to look at the way that Bachittar Natak describes Mohammed and his fall from his mission and setting up of a Manmat rather than a Gurmat religion to the way that the Quran has a peaceful Meccan Islam and a violent and oppressive Medinan Islam. Mohammed preached a peaceful religion for many years in Mecca and only got about 150 followers. When he went to Medina and invented the whorehouse heaven and allowed sex slaves and divided his loot between his followers then he got thousands of followers. You are displaying extreme ignorance about the Hadiths. They have well known chains of transmission and the fact that many present a very negative image of Mohammed may well point to their veracity.
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    It's got nothing to do with what caste one comes from. Those that think there are high and low castes, especially in this day and age really need to do some soul searching. It's not rocket science to understand what's being said about caste in the threads and numerous other past threads. If people want to cling onto their castes and be proud of it, then that's ego. Because there's nothing to be proud of a caste, it's the qualities of a person that one looks at, and not their caste, that's where the pride should be. Not, that they are from flana themkara caste. The Gurus never said they were proud of being so and so caste, so why should we? Something to think about 💭.
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    I never claimed to be Jat whatsoever, or any caste really, (not really important if you ask me, whether I'm a Brahmin or Dalit especially in this day and age). But I'd rather be of the lowest caste and a real Sikh, than being the highest caste and being some heretic.
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    There has recently been some nindaks here who are shamelessly doing Nindya against Brahmgianis and Kharkoo Shaheed Singhs. Such Nindaks also have a track record of using abusive language against other forum member's parents who defend Shaheed and Brahmgianis from their Nindya. Such Nindaks lower the standard of this forum.
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    That's where you're wrong kiddo. Read the Taksali rehit or any rehitnama, you don't add your surname. There's the First name and the Second name, e.g Bhai Mani Singh Ji Cocky how? I'm the most forefront person on this forum when it comes to giving respect to Mahapurkhs, when I address Mahapurkhs I always use honorifics, I'm not even worth the dust at their feet and hang to every word they say. You're the one calling them liars by saying you don't believe Guru Sahib merged all the castes into one, just as they ascribed. So if you think they're Brahmgyanis then I hope you'll agree you're wrong because you can't have both ways. Well this is fun, so you claim your family taught your Santhiya, what did you make of Guru Sahib condemning those who cling to Caste as being hell bound? So much anger and rage. Are you upset that Gurbani doesn't agree with you? that Guru Sahib says people like you will head to hell if you don't change with your loyalty to caste?
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    They said that Guru Sahib merged the castes into one caste of Khalsa. So clearly if you don't believe that then they are liars by your standards. Shame. Sure then he'd do it for everyone in the world. So I asked you to tell me what castes Smith has. Sure I have a name, with the surname "Singh" at the end. I don't need a third name. I can change my name all I want. Clearly your family is so beyond maya. I mean sitting and listening to the Punj Pyare about destroying their caste was too much for them and you. They love Hindu traditions so much they're actually trying to keep them alive in Sikhi (!) much enlightenment. You and your family will go to hell, and no I'm not swearing at you nor am I saying it from me. That's the fate Guru Sahib said awaited those who fear and cling to the caste system. Honestly I'm not the one screaming about being a proud Jatt, I'm not the one who's filled with Haumai about his Caste. That's Gurbani you simple minded buffoon. You said your family taught you Santhiya, so read it and weep. Guru Sahib outright says those who see Caste as an illusion are the ones who find God, you clearly don't. He also says in the same stanza that people like you who fear and abide by the Caste system are going to hell. Like I said, I'm casteless. You need to call yourself a Jatt to feel something, if anything it shows the stature of a man you are. I honestly don't need any identity except that of being a Sikh. So then. Is the Gurbani false? because it just destroyed your arguments. Just remember guyzzz being a "proud Jatt" or proud any caste trumps what God said.
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    Why are you avoiding all my questions. You said Caste is determined by God, so tell me what Caste these english surnames are and why you and your family call Bhai Gurdas Ji and Bhai Nand Lal Ji liars. Do you not consider them Brahmgyanis? do you think they were liars and fools? is that what you're saying? because that's what it sounds like. You've said that God's Hukam determines caste yet you can't tell me the caste of Smith, Mutumbo and so on. What utter tosh. Don't drag God into the mess you and your family are a part of. Sure its all within Hukam but so is death, destruction and genocide. That doesn't make it right. I swear you have to be one of the densest people I've met. Where have I actually said i have the words "Guru Nanak Dev" in my name? I said my caste is that of "Sikh of Guru Nanak" , My lord and Liege who is casteless and thus so am I. Caste is based in Maya, So feel free to be Maya's little wench all your life, I'm sure you and your family will go far in that. I even explained the basis of the caste system is in the social infrastructure of Punjabi society and has its roots in Hinduism. All you're doing is showing people you're more loyal to that. I broke it down in plain english to the point an infant could understand how easy it is to change your name, surname and assume a different Identity. Heck, Sikhs do it all the time and did so in the past. You're so clung onto your own identity its no wonder you seem so hellbent on protecting it. All I hear is you whining about how proud you are of your caste and family. Yet you're running from the questions im asking.
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    Let us see a bit why Yogi Bhajan was not good at all, forget being a sikh, but even a decent human being. Following is an article written by Steven Hassan which I found on the net, and seems having credibilty: "The head of the empire, Yogi Bhajan, died in New Mexico in 2004 at the age of seventy-five. Born Harbhajan Singh Puri, he arrived in the U.S. in 1969. He soon renamed himself Yogi Bhajan. He said he was a well-known holy man back home in India. In reality, in India, Bhajan had been merely a civil servant, a customs inspector. Members of Yogi Bhajan’s group claim to be Sikhs. However, according to mainstream members of the religion, by adhering to the doctrine of Yogi Bhajan, they are violating more traditional Sikh teachings. Yogi Bhajan’s teachings are closer to a synthesis of Kundalini yoga, tantric and New Age practices than anything originating from Sikh teachings. The audacity of Yogi Bhajan’s claims makes this story particularly alarming. Bhajan taught, among other things, that he could see auras and see into the future. But perhaps his most outrageous claim was that he was the official religious and administrative leader of all Sikhs in the Western world. I am told that most legitimate Sikhs avoid any association with Bhajan’s group, and that Yogi Bhajanism is by no means representative of the five-century-old Sikh tradition whose homeland is in the Indian Punjab Former members with whom I have worked populate and tell their stories on a Delphi forum, “The Wacko World of Yogi Bhajan“. Over the past thirty years I have helped former members who alleged sexual and psychological abuse by and under Yogi Bhajan. There have been allegations of various criminal activities, and also Security Exchange Commission convictions of members of Yogi Bhajan’s inner circle. Several former students of Yogi Bhajan claim that when attempting to leave the group, they were threatened with violence. There is an unsolved murder of a member that is still under investigation, and also haunting suicides. There is more information on this fraud yogi bhajan which can be read on the following address:(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-hassan/the-disturbing-mainstream_b_667026.html), but the above evidences are more than sufficient to prove out how devlish was this fellow." *And to share a bit of light on the topic of the OP about what is a mantra, and its effects .... following are some basic points : Mantra is a Sanskrit word that consists of two parts: the root word man, which relates to thought, and the suffix -tra, which refers to tools or instruments. The word literally means “a tool of the mind” or “instrument of thought.” The word mantra is used to describe any thoughts, utterances, songs, or other sequences of words or sounds that are supposed to have spiritual efficacy or magical power. A mantra is defined as “a tool of the mind that has a spiritual effect on a person’s will or emotional state of being.” A mantra can be a religious or sacred prayer or chant, but it can also be a spell or supernatural weapon. Mantras are not specific to any one system of thought or religion. Generally,any utterance or thought that is believed powerful enough, to affect either the inward state of a person’s mind or the world at large can be called a mantra.
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    Oh, sorry for nominating you without asking, that goes for the other members I nominated too. The reason I nominated you was because there's some posts of yours that I liked that showed you have a calm approach towards some topics. That's the type of Mods, I felt the forum needs, those with knowledge of Sikhi and that won't take sides or start abusing others.
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    WAHEGURU W - Wasudev H - Hari G - Gobind R - Raam
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    I'm with Simran, pretty much anyone who is a long old member. Edit: I'm in
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    Bhai Mardana Ji was a Sikh, but a non-Muslim would never have requested to go on Hajj, it seems clear therefore that he was both a Sikh and a Muslim though it is not stated outright in Bhai Gurdas Ji's Vaar. The controversy which ensued in the wake of Guru Nanak's departure between his Hindu disciples and his Muslim disciples also shows that it was possible to be both Hindu and Sikh or Muslim and Sikh, at least in the beginning. Sikhi transcended religious labels, and all other superficial and outward markers of faith. The human race has existed for around 100,000 years, the Sikh Panth is 500 years old, and largely limited to a tiny section of the earth. If you're going to believe that our way is the only way, then you also have to believe that for 99,500 years not a single person attained mukhta (Bani claims no such thing), and that even for those of us living today, barely anyone outside the Punjab will be saved because of the coincidence that they were born in places which are unexposed to Sikhi. This same point goes for any Muslim who believes that his religion is the only true one, any Christian who says this of his faith, and any Hindu who claims it of his. I feel that Sikh dharam is the perfect medicine for someone of my personality and outlook, but this is not necessarily the case for everyone. The things I have said are not cheap tricks to win an argument or make converts, but the reflections of my personal struggle to better understand Sikhi.
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    Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji is the Guru and Vaheguru as Shabad Guru/Gurbani teaches. In your ignorance you compare Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji to an idol. Please stop reading half baked scholars verbal diarrhea as the truth. Adi Granth Sahib ji was placed on Baba Buddha ji head as Sri Guru Arjun Dev did chaur sahib over Adi Granth Sahib ji. Sri Guru Arjun Dev ji slept on the floor and Adi Granth took the bed. Such are the teachings of my Guru. Please don't take my Guru, Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji Bani out of context. Read the full pankti and Guru Sahib says don't see any difference between Sri Guru Gobind Singh ji and Vaheguru....paraphrase. Related Shabads from Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and Dasam Bani on who is the Guru have to be taken to figure out the puzzle. Gursikhs, Gurmukhs, Sants, Brahmgyanis, Bhagats, Sikhs who writing are in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji all agree Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji is the Guru and Vaheguru (nirankar). I was just talking to someone about the shakti of Gurbani and saying only those can speak of Gurbani who have experienced the power and natural attraction. How a Sikh can hear clearly Gurbani coming from another Gursikhs mouth even though his lips are not moving. How both naturally draw to each other and enjoy each other presence in Vaheguru praise. Such are the blessed moments enjoyed. Such amazing feeling comes over the mind that can't be measured or explained. Vaheguru praise is so great. His miracles are so wonderful, his actions are so beautiful. We as mere ants can only beg to see his feet. How sweet his feet must be, the radiance, the glory, the magnificent view of his feet. How lucky are such Gursikhs who see his feet as they read Gurbani. Even the most evil minded people fall before his feet and ask for the greatest blessing of all. Bringing the mind to listen to his teachings in Gurbani. Over and over beating the mind till it gives up and falls at Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji feet. Such a difficult task done with Guru's grace is his glory alone. All victory belongs to him. No one else has a say in his doings. Continuously singing his praise is the only job of the householder. Beating the mind to recognize he is the only one who creates and acts is very difficult. The mind wants to say it has a permanent existence in this illusion. The mind does not realize Vaheguru is inside and out of the body. Even after recognizing this truth the mind wants to proclaim guruship. Believing it can reach the feet of Vaheguru. Such foolish acts are done in vain. Lost in the 3 gunas the mind begs for shells and loses sight of the jewel placed close to the shell. Without the jewel Vaheguru can't be found. His grace, peace of mind, love and praise is only received when the mind is placed before the feet of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and ready to follow every instruction. Give the mind to Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and let him rewrite the minds programming. How can the mind recognize what it does not know about. Only the perfect instructor can teach the mind its mistakes and bring it to accept it has no power. Only the perfect instructor can teach the mind how to ask for and what to ask for and why. All praise belongs to him. His instructions are perfect and complete. Only he can teach who is perfect as Vaheguru. Others are only lost in their ego and babble on. Vaho vaho Bani Nirankar hai
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    I nominate @Jacfsing2 @S1ngh @Kira@Not2Cool2Argue @InderjitS Pajis and @jkvlondon Penji for Mods.
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    Bani is like Medicine, Reciting certain lines of Gurbani wth devotion will remove pain (for example Dukh Bhanjan tera Naam Ji), Lines from the Dasam Granth's amazing Bir Raas banis will give you strength. But bear in mind, inside all of Gurbani, every single tukh there lies the ultimate goal of merging with the lord.
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    You're right I'm not of Jat Caste, I don't have a caste. I'd rather sit around with the so called "Shudra" than anyone else. Seek the company of the lowliest.
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    Nobody is jealous of you. Honestly I see you as some kid playing some game where they try to show how great they are, but in reality, just someone with an inflated ego.
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    Yeahhhh he's been bested. Now we sit back and watch him self-destruct. Oh the joys of the Internet.
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    Man, listen to some of the junk you've been spreading.
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    Of course you don't have a comment. Gurbani disproved you, So now inside you're scared and frightened. One side wants to stay loyal to your Lady Maya (Caste) while the other is confused by it all. This is all perfectly normal for growing up.
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    Anyone who believes in the Caste System can take it up with Guru Sahib himself. He even outright said it's all lies. ਜੇ ਜੇ ਸਹਿਤ ਜਾਤਨ ਸੰਦੇਹਿ ॥ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕੋ ਸੰਗਿ ਨ ਛੋਡਤ ਨੇਹ ॥ From the Mukh of Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, Father of the Khalsa I could sit here and post quote after quote but i fear it would fall on deaf ears. Trying to penetrate the thick ego of the caste minded person isn't something I have the power to do I fear.
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    LOVELY SHABADS + SWEET VOICE = PREM BHAKTI
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    So you narrow the whole issue of caste to your personal viewpoint whilst being almost wilfully ignorant of the stank it causes in our wider community.
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    Agreed. You all may have noticed that I totally ignored 'Guest Pakistani Jatt's' original message. That is because, from the moment I read what he had to say, I could tell that it was exactly what a shiv sena Hindu would say when trying to incite Sikhs against Muslims by pretending to be a muslim (something they do alot of). It was so obvious I didn't think any of you were going to fall for the bait. But....alas.....some of you did. You're making it all too easy for them.
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    Maybe go.to counseling...it seems.u have unresolved issues. Also do a heartfelt ardaas Do chaupai sahib with dhian everyday
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    I'm not going to tell you what to do, but what makes this person special that makes you want him as a life partner.
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    When you were pinned down, I believe it is sleep paralysis. Search it up, it's a little scary but I've had it loads of times and the first time was the worst but the last one I had was a couple of months ago and to be honest, I wasn't scared. I chose to ignore what games my mind played with me. I started becoming more positive with the life around me, I became closer to God by choosing to go Gurdwara more often and telling him the low's in my life and I would feel clean minded and free! Enough about me, I just believe it is due to your inner energy and power that drives these things. I hope you get well and life does always turn around! I wish you are the happiest you can be today.
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    I define it as someone who follows or adopts something outside mainstream norms just to be different or look 'mysterious/cool'. I don't know if they all take Amrit but I believe they think Sikhi is a fashion and confuse Punjabi and Western culture with Sikh culture. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk6OyQb-di2QHTa7WeWBjFQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1xqh5StJKY However there was one who took Amrit and talking nonsense but I cannot find it on YouTube. I will try to look again and post if found. The same applies to Goreh/white hipsters. They are easy to find on YouTube, online or on other Sikh forums. Not at all. My point was just that many 'Sikhs', including Punjabi's, can recall a shabad but provide only a generic or widely accepted translation. We should be careful of such translations as each word will have its own definition according to each person and may contain some bias to suit an agenda e.g. changing a definition and using a shabad as a weapon. Ik Oankar means one God, one creator, the 'doer' (kar) of everything in this world, even from each single atom. I am aware of its importance as it begins both the Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji as well as the Mool Mantar of Guru Nanak Dev ji. My intention was just to highlight a bit of darkness in which Sikhi is in now. If people are genuine and respectful then there is not much to argue about is there? What you say about 'Punjabi hipsters' today is true. Not all are Sikh, as I have already mentioned more than once to certain posters, but this is something that is not going to change as Sikhi was created in the Punjab. I am not saying this means they are given the right to call themselves Sikh but as the world's fifth largest religion, it is bound to be a part of Punjabi identity. Some may be sincere, others just take pride and pick and choose what they wish to practice so they have the best of both worlds e.g. meat-eating mona Sikhs.
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    How do you know whether I can or cannot understand that shabad or 'basic' Panjabi? I just asked you for a translation. ਬੈਫਦੂਫ. ਮੈ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਆਊਂਦੀ ਹੈ. ਸਝਦਾ ? ਤੁ ਬਹੁਤ ਬਕਵਾਸ ਬੋਲਦਾ ਹੈ. How silly do you feel now, kid? Are you sure about that? http://www.3ho-kundalini-yoga.eu/rus/dejatelnost/festival-iogi-v-evrope/programma-festivalja/seminary-2012/guru-shabad-singh-de-santis-rome-italy/ http://www.spiritvoyage.com/artists/Guru-Shabad-Singh-Khalsa.aspx http://www.nanakdevsingh.com/ I am sure there are more but these are what I have so far encountered. White people masquerading as Sikhs are comedy. Yes 'Tegh Bahadur' can mean 'might of the sword' and 'Guru' is a title. It is actually compound word and roughly translates as 'one who brings lightness from darkness'. In other words, an enlightener or wise person or a teacher, just like all ten blessed messengers of Waheguru. Now you have appear to shown yourself up twice in as many posts yet you have the cheek to say I enjoy talking rubbish. I don't know what to say but either way, that is some achievement. Shabash. Bahut acha. Ih ki majak hai? I do not think you are very good at reading. If you were then you would have already seen the following: Where are the shabads? I cannot see them. As stated above, I do not think you are very good at reading. I asked you to post, translate and discuss shabads referencing Kaljug. Clearly you could not do this. Never mind. I have nothing more to say to you.
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