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  1. 4 points
    Who is the lion and who is coward? Nirbhau, nirvair .. There is no punishment.. Not realising the sweet nectar of truth is no punishment it's a self-inflicted prison called ignorance
  2. 3 points
    They also made thousands of Sikhs refugees across the tribal regions of Pak/Afg recently. None the less, the ones that are good are irrelevant. The few that are terrorists overshadow them and are too big of a threat for us to sit here saying "b-b-but not a-all are bad :(." We can't dismiss Islamic terrorism because not all Muslims are bad, it's not a difficult concept.
  3. 3 points
    Nope only DDT fanbois can see this "imaginary" flow of the picture. It's not a good precedent, if everyone starting doing this and it is deemed acceptable, the doors are wide open to beadvi. Should Donald Trump , put his picture up like that too if he was ever to visit a Gurdwara for example.. and decided to advertise the fact...
  4. 3 points
    It's not the same poster on the poster in the Sikh24 link, Sant jis photo is below the picture of the Sahibsades , not at the same level as it is on the banner. We should remain vigilant of such things in Gurughars and challenge and question all potential beadbis.
  5. 3 points
    This is just the same poster but removing the frame containing the dates of the program . and seriously I would have a problem with all the pictures not just levels . In Guru ji's hazoori we should be focus on the gurbani not an artist's kalpana
  6. 3 points
    That link you posted does not contain the actual banner that was actually displayed in the Gurdwara diwaan hall. I have attached the actual picture of the banner clearly visible as it was displayed in the diwaan hall. You can clearly see the images at the same level. You think there's nothing wrong with that ?
  7. 3 points
    Has anyone seen the actual poster/banner advertising the barsi that the speaker in the video is referring to ? I have seen the picture of the banner which was in display in the Gurdwara diwaan hall. From the looks of it , he may have a valid point, you shouldn't have sants pictures on the same level as Sahibsadez and Gurus.
  8. 3 points
    The chaps causing a ruckus in the Gurdwara could have just intelligently answered the questions being levelled by the speaker in the Gurdwara instead of forcefully trying to stop him speaking and causing a scuffle. Are people incapable of intelligent discussion ? Are they not articulate enough to engage in dialogue ? These actions of forcefully trying to stop someone talking is what caused the beadbi of the police entering the database sahib with shoes on and heads not covered...
  9. 2 points
    Isn't southall the uks Surrey? Local singhs musta smash d the <banned word filter activated> afterwards
  10. 2 points
    Once Muslims population increases in our Punjab there's gonna be guaranteed more problems like drugs gangs grooming of native Punjabi girls ect this happens anywhere there are is a large population of Muslims in non Muslim area
  11. 2 points
    Well for someone who recommended to another not to pay me much attention, you flatter me with the attention you yourself have paid me thank you Before I go on may I firstly just bring to your attention.. 21. Kisae dee ninda, chugalee, atae eirkhaa nahee karnee - Do not gossip nor slander, or be spiteful to anyone. The irony... So my post was related to what we know... We know guru sahib made additions to Guru Granth Sahib ji including bani of the ninth master. Pointedly he didn't add any of his own verses. So he clearly saw the ggsj as having supreme authority to which he personally in his humility did not feel the need to add hukumnamas? I find this strange that dashmesh pita in all his wisdom left out something which you believe supercedes it's authority.. Are you genuinely suggesting that ggsj is incomplete? Now may I, in the interest of expanding my own limited knowledge see the sources of your references. I have no personal agenda I just haven't. By which I mean where are the documents of hukumnama with guru sahibs seal.. I personally have seen a hand written hukumnama by guru sahib that is not listed in the 52 you reference. If you can point me in the right direction and show me a picture of said hukumnamas which in this day and age should not be really very difficult.. If you cannot supply evidence then are you not inadvertently saying that guru sahib in all his wisdom and prolific literary output some how forgot to have codified documents that are now being attributed to him? I've digressed the original post asked a simple question.. I provided a opinion, one which is with intelligent, rational, critical arguments I'm open to modifying.. Now just one additional and very interesting observation I made of your statement is that of of you speaking of 'political Sikh ideology'.. I think your language speaks for itself as to who has the agenda? Political being the operative word SSA
  12. 1 point
    Not racially, but I am sure religion probably played a critical part.
  13. 1 point
    They wouldn't do this their own kind. Should this be treated as racially motivated?
  14. 1 point
    Deport the scum back where they belong and never let them in the UK.
  15. 1 point
    Good luck to you my friend.. All knowledge and exploration is of value even if people disagree with the proposition? I'd be happy to make some suggestions and help with any fundraising if you so wished..
  16. 1 point
    I apologise for I digressed in my post and responded to a side issue with my thoughts.. I believe any academic research should be welcome and we need more of it.. For me One of the greatest tragedies to befall the Sikh quam was the loss of the library of Guru gobind Singh Ji in the sirsa after the siege of anandpur.. I believe the academic contribution made by Niddar Singh has great value if we approach it agnostically ie. We as individual researchers judge it upon the merits and veracity of the evidence to substantiate any given proposition.. What I can say is that all research should be encouraged without it being politicised.. I think to create a body of work the Sikh community should set up a bursary fund to finance academics to engage in research where the research is totally independent of any political objectives of the financiers.. Within Sikh community many people are really quick to dismiss and denigrate a piece of work not for any rational reason but rather that the intellectual questions that many works uncover challenge our dogmatic assumptions .. More research from a plurality of opinions is what we need so that we can eliminate with confidence all nonsense
  17. 1 point
    There is nothing to indicate that EVERY single decision was made by ISI. Did they have some influence, sure? I agree with a good bit of what MisterSingh says, but a lot of it comes off as typical Indian white washing. They want everyone to believe Khalistan was nothing, just some misguided fools being used by Pakistan. That's it. Final. Which I do not agree with it. Lots of mistakes were bad, but that Shaheeds like Sant Ji, Baba Manochahal, Budhinghwala were just dumbf***s getting used? No. And the 84 Pakistan invasion theory, I have heard this from ONE Sikh who was there present. Mostly comes from Indian puppets though. Although I am not dismissing it entirely as an Indian spread theory.
  18. 1 point
    I absolutely 100% agree with you. As I have said I haven't been shown that dashmesh pita unequivocally said the things you are attributing to him.. But I have limited knowledge and welcome any evidence of supporting documents that do support said statements.. I want to agree with you brother just show me the way.. I don't want to believe in hearsay we have as Sikhs been taught to hold the highest standards of truth and rationality.. The primary characteristic of onkaar is truth.. So when it comes to temporal historical assertions the burden of evidence should be quite easy.. Before we even explore the spiritual realm let us unequivocally accept what we know on what basis we have formed our opinions.. It really shouldn't be that hard for those amongst us who have performed khoj satisfied the burden of evidence to be brave enough to assert in Guru sahibs name what he said, what he wrote.. As a Sikh I am scared of attributing something to Guru sahib for which I have no evidence.. It's just hearsay otherwise.. Let's not forget about baba ram rai who changed just one word and was excommunicated.. Nevermind what some people here do on some threads.. E.g. Let's just for one moment accept that the hukumnama referenced above.. No. 38. Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahee daenee. Uos ghar daeve jithae Akal Purukh dee sikhee ha, jo karza-ai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaekee atae gyanvaan hovae - Do not given a daughter's hand in marriage to a shaven one. Give her to a household where the Undying divine personification Akal purakh and tenets of Sikhism are respected, to household without debt, of a pleasing nature, which is disciplined and educated This statement attributed to Guru gobind Singh Ji as a hukumnama is sometimes articulated and translated as a Sikh should not give his daughter to a Muslim.. But it doesn't mention Muslim.. It only says one who has uncut hair. Going on it also talks about debt, that is in the same 'hukumnama' so does that mean someone with a mortgage, what about if you have karza on a car loan, or on the flip side earning karza on money in the bank
  19. 1 point
    Looks like you want to turn this debate into a gutter and trash talk like you are use to doing. This must be a sign of your mentality resorting to school yard name calling. I wont bother stooping to your low level. This is a forum with many people of knowledge.
  20. 1 point
    Y your gettin sarcastic with me, i have no clue, i just simply answered/corrected the brothers comments above. Secondly, after bluestar happened, we went to war with the indian state in a civil war (1985-93ish), which was the only option, as the ask for khalistan became our only option. Either that, or we just sit there n carry on getting shittar from panjab police/bsf/raw etc. Pakistan hating and wanting to destabilise india works in their favour and ours. Who else did u want to fund sikhs with weapons then, which had to be snuck in via various methods across states/borders? U said "We paid with our blood to further their aims"....their aims? Khalistan and the push for it was NOT "their aims", it became a necessity after bluestar. U kno u need to research this topic properly, rather than post rubbish n embarrass yourself.
  21. 1 point
    So they used us in an attempt to destabilise Punjab, thus strengthening the Pakistani position versus India? And that's viewed as a positive by us? We paid with our blood to further their aims, even though it was dressed up as support for our fledgling revolution. They played us, and we're grateful for their 5hitty AK's.
  22. 1 point
    If the reason we wear turban is because to stand up to the mughals. Also is the turban not an arabic origin tradition? Why copy the arabs. Im not against the turban or Growing of the hair. But Im saying why cant somone be considered a true Sikh without the turban. From what I understand the turban is a cloth used to cover the long hair aw it would look odd to have long hair without a covering of some sort. My other issue is the arrogance that Some Sikhs have just because they wear a turban and think they are better even though they drink and eat meat ect.
  23. 1 point
    I don't think this should realistically be played down like this. The problem with this kind of behaviour by the leaders of any nation/society is that they don't live in a vacuum. If they did, they could theoretically get up to whatever kind of depraved anti-Sikh debaucheries they felt inclined to as far as I'm concerned. As long as these didn't adversely affect their rule in particular and the behaviour of society as a whole. Which, in itself is a pipe dream. The reason why that's not advisable policy in any event in the real world is because leaders possess a very real and powerful signalling function. This can be highly beneficial in the right hands and potentially seriously dangerous in the wrong hands. Public perception of a leader's behavior is hugely magnified, and, inevitably, it filters all the way down society. Therefore, leaders have a strict duty and responsibility to their subjects to set them a healthy and positive example to follow. They need not only to possess the correct morals, but more importantly, to be seen to possess the correct morals. This is more or less dharam, to which the Maharaja appeared to give wild abandon towards the end of his life. Now these kinds of restrictions could well be deemed a bit of a straightjacket for a red-blooded ruler, and I suspect that the one being referred to here felt that to be the case. But, quite frankly, that is the price of the job. Either accept it, or leave it to someone with greater self-restraint. At this point, it should be self-evident that any form of widespread addiction to the baser sensual pleasures is seriously detrimental to the future existence as a going concern of any nation. I shouldn't need to explain how these addictions encourage and normalise the very vikaars that produce a society of weak, shallow, easily manipulable individuals, low in morals, and crippled by a complete absence of the family values that are required to maintain a healthy strong and growing nation. However, by the Maharaja and most (though not all) of his close leadership indulging in this exact kind of downright utter gundh, it gave a green light to the rest of society that this stuff was strictly A-OK. So you could get drunk, get high, sleep with multiple partners that you never intend to get married with, and still call yourself a practising Sikh. All with the endorsement of the Maharaja. Happy days. Ironically, the Maharaja, increasingly brazenly in his latter days, got up to the very kind of anti-Sikh rubbish that the Khalsa was instructed and mandated to eradicate. So much for Khalsa Rahe Niara. Consequently, I think that the roots of the current simplistic, unsophisticated, promiscuous, and shallow "balle balle" drinking/dancing/bhangra culture (which is incidentally a totally mughal imitation) that our society is currently infested with can be traced back to this era. As a result, I believe that Guru Maharaj gave us a good and well deserved lesson when the Khalsa Raj that was abused in this fashion came crashing down. Yet, apparently we've learnt nothing, and some people appear to actually fantasise about returning to an age where this exact same gundh can be repeated and replicated with impunity, whilst somehow avoiding the side-effects that are bound to accompany it. It's impossible. No serious nation ever prospered whose rulers gave into cheap pleasures, sensual thrills and hedonistic debauchery.
  24. 1 point
    This is the most foollish and consciousless answer, can a expert in nonsense give like this poster, full of arrogance, ego and wickedness. Verily the sign of a totally corrupted conscience. Well what else can be expected from a cheap chap like you? Better, first you go to the Guru or the panj pyare, to give you a cure for this your chronical disease of foolishness.
  25. 1 point
    Just peep silently deep into your heart, you will hear the voice of your conscience, telling you if you have done anything wrong or not. Most of us know already what is right or not, but if ever any doubt, just remember, anything which takes you away from Wahiguru, that is "paap", that is sin, and on the contrary, anything which takes you nearer to Wahiguru, that is "punya" Also, any karam done under the influences of the panj chor: kaam, krodh, lobh, moh and ahankar, is nothing else, but for sure bad karam, and as such, we need to ask for forgiveness from Wahiguru. Sat Sree Akal.
  26. 1 point
    Ah! No. Am saying halal SHOULD be considered different from jhatka n gave reasons why "Meat is meat" is a complete wrong thing to claim.
  27. 1 point
    I wish her all the best in her endeavours. It's only the constituents of Edgbaston that can vote for her anyway.
  28. 1 point
    I might have been wrong about her husband being Amritdhari. But she still represents the best chance Sikhs might have for even just one lone isolated voice at Westminster. Jagsaw would you rather see a Pakistani MP in Edgbaston or a Sikh one?
  29. 1 point
    I think she would be an asset for British Sikhs, I have seen some of her work helping in Sikh causes in the UK and internationally. She should get the Sikh votes
  30. 1 point
    Singhs from all over india should visit this place and protest. We need to be more tight knit and have more brother/sisterhood among the panth shouldn't matter if your jatt,mazhabi, chumar, bhatra, afghan sikh kashmiri sikh we are all one and should unite when things like this happen thats the only way its gonna change.
  31. 1 point
    Useless and unnecessary expenditure like the sort you have referred to above is deliberately incurred by sharabi kebabi committee men in return for kickbacks. Straight corruption at its easiest and simplest. They simply look after number one, which is why they can shell out unnecessary £000's, but can't even organise free Sikhi parchar. There was a case at my local Gurdwara where this exact thing happened two years ago under the old committee. Completely useless, unnecessary, and unrequired work was incurred at the cost of £000's for a car park that was going to be built over anyway. Worse still, the dodgy contractor wasn't even paid from the Gurdwara bank account. This is what made this case even more blatant, contemptuous and offensive than the usual embezzlement of Gurdwara funds. The General Secretary instead claimed he made the payment on behalf of the Gurdwara personally. Yeah right. They took sangat for straight fools. This was their mistake. It followed from his claim that he needed reimbursing. Being the man in control, he then easily obtained a cheque for £000's from the Gurdwara Treasurer, which he paid directly to himself. When the sangat discovered this outrage, the dodgy General Secretary was pursued and proof of the alleged expense was demanded. He was asked to provide any sort of document to verify the expense he allegedly incurred, e.g. an invoice, contract with the builders, or receipt. The old bugger was hardly going to supply one was he? He would have simply incriminated himself. So the old committee sat tight and saw their term out. Evidence was never supplied. This incident was the tip of the iceberg. There is a long history of overpayments to the "old boys" network posing as contractors and using vastly inflated contracts with these budday (and that is meant as a matter of fact not an insult). But the opposition from sangat was too strong, determined and active to take no for an answer. We forced them out at the last elections. This is what corrupt Gurdwara committee Presidents and General Secretaries need. These shady types masquerading in the garb of Sikhs, to steal sangat funds and respect they don't deserve, are unafraid of the Guru and don't respond to brotherly advice or dharam. You have to relentlessly and publicly challenge, expose them, warts-and-all for who they really are, and force them out. This is the only way.
  32. 1 point
    I have already addressed kosher: "A kosher outlet should get the same reception as halal because the meat is still prepared in the sacrificial fashion, exactly the same as the islamic one." Some people might not be aware of this fact. But that ignorance would quickly disappear if they witnessed a chained animal being slowly and sacrificially murdered in the abrahamic fashion. I'm not preoccupied with being accused of anti semitism just for calling out kosher meat, and rightly so. That would be simply ludicrous as it simply doesn't apply here.
  33. 1 point
    With respect, if these Sikh business owners in West Midlands are anything like the ones in West and East London, £150,000 is the sort of sum one would cough out if one sneezed too hard. That the Gurdwara even needed to put out a public appeal speaks volumes about us as a community in the UK. We struggle to achieve Khalistan, and rightly so. We aspire to halemi Khalsa Raj, and rightly so. We demand the return of our sovereignty over our stolen land, and rightly so. But when the time comes to it, we as a 600,000+ strong community in this country are so disorganised we can't even nip something like this in the bud without it going public??? The whole situation is quite frankly a downright embarrassment. The property purchase should have been dealt with discreetly between the Gurdwara committee and a few prominent Singhs alone. It will be a sad indictment of Gurdwara committees in Birmingham in particular and the UK in general if they can't come together to solve this problem and help this particular Gurdwara out in this case. Sadly, knowing what the committees are like, I am afraid that is a distinct possibility.
  34. 1 point
    The Gurdwara committee doesn't even need to come up with £150,000, nor do they need to buy it outright. If they can raise even a quarter of that sum, they can easily obtain a commercial mortgage for the rest. The rent from the flat and shop should cover the interest portion of repayments at least. Mortgage rates are at historical rock bottom. They won't be rising sharply anytime soon either, particularly with Brexit and its bloody aftermath up in the air.
  35. 1 point
    The fact this is even being proposed illustrates perfectly the problem with Gurdwara committees.
  36. 1 point
    I don't know about that. Paedo gangs in East London have been exclusively the preserve of muslims (mostly mirpuris). Panjabis tend to be moderate, regardless of religion, though you do still get the odd anjem slipping through. My best friends in secondary school were Panjabi muslims and I never had a problem with a single one of them on account of my faith. Let's bear in mind that this was at a time when people had serious beef with pakistani muslims, not least other muslims, and SP was in full swing out here exacting bloody justice. Many Panjabi muslims have respect for us as a religion and a people because they have had a long time to learn and recognise what Sikhs are about and stand for. That should be the case for all muslims, but sadly respect for other religions does not fit with islam. We actually proved our tolerance during the 100 odd years when we ruled Greater Panjab. This was a time when we could have repaid Panjabi muslims for the first two Sikh holocausts in the same coin if we wanted to. However, we operated at a far higher standard. That is fact and you can take the word of revered muslim historians, rather than my own, for that. Tolerance in the form that we demonstrated is impossible and unheard of in islam. The point however remains, and everyone admits this, no matter whether it's a white englishman, black jamaican, or brown hindu. Muslims in general would never seek out, groom and sexually abuse their own children the way they do, with ingrained and remarkable normality, to everyone else's children. There should be no issue with a "Bob the Butcher's" as you put it, though in your defence given how many Sikhs are vegetarian, I can see how that would cause problems. A kosher outlet should get the same reception as halal because the meat is still prepared in the sacrificial fashion, exactly the same as the islamic one. Whatever one's personal practice and belief, vegetarians should not try to impose their beliefs on the halal meat problem. I called for this not to be turned into a meat debate in general. Some people may be unintentionally ignorant of Guru Ji's injunction specifically against halal meat itself, which is acceptable y the extent that ignorance can be corrected. However, if one is deliberately trying to obfuscate, twist and confuse the halal meat issue into one of meat in general, that is not cool. Sikhi says that meat eating is neither banned nor promoted. This is a matter of an individual's necessity and choice. Nihang Singhs have a long and time honoured tradition of Jhatka that dates all the way back to Guru Ji. You can't really believe fairy stories that Singhs survived in the Lakhi jungle just by eating leaves. Halal meat on the other hand is specifically banned in Sikhi. And before anyone jumps in to say otherwise, that is not just by a (respected) rehatnama. Halal meat is banned by the holy hukam of Guru Ji themselves. I have dealt above with the distinction between halal and non-halal meat in Sikhi. There is a long and established precedent for the necessity of sensitivity to religious belief in the United Kingdom. If a halal meat shop has to be opened, it doesn't have to be right next to a Gurdwara. That's the precise problem in this respect. We need to look to Guru Ji's hukams for guidance.
  37. 1 point
    Cash rich gurdwarae if they had any brains would buy up this shop. That would prevent any meat shop opening there, job done. Slough Singh Sabha owns a row of houses which they use to house Granthi, can't say why this gurdwara cannot do the same.
  38. 1 point
    I hear you. The Jews are an interesting case in point. They have mostly avoided conflict with muslims in the UK up to now simply by residing beyond their reach. In the case of Sikhs, on the other hand, pakistani muslims in particular follow us around like a bloody tramp. I witnessed first hand how Ilford South transformed from a genuinely decent place to grow up, into a filthy muslim ghetto over the last 15 years, with all the antisocial problems that a large and concentrated population of muslims living alongside doe eyed kaffirs naturally brings. Rising property prices in the east end, however, have put paid to erstwhile Jewish complacency. Now previously in poverty muslims can simply sell their right-to-buy council flats to eager hipsters and buy a nice big 5 bedder out in Redbridge. You should just see how this is playing itself out in formerly Jewish majority areas like Gants Hill, Clayhall and Barkingside.
  39. 1 point
    This is clearly enough of an issue that the Gurdwara has issued a public appeal over it. As I said, I am outside of this specific area, but from your handle I guess you might know better. You could perhaps kindly enlighten us on what the situation is there between muslims and kaffirs these days. From what I have learnt from elders there that fought muslim paedophiles going back decades, there are rife problems with islamics in Birmingham. Let's be quite frank about this. For a halal meat shop that wants to open right next to a Gurdwara, it's never merely about business.
  40. 1 point
    This has got nothing to do with meat in general. Let's not try to pretend otherwise. In the case of halal meat Sikhi is unequivocal that we are banned from going anywhere near meat prepared in an islamic, sacrificial, manner. It is as much an affront to our religious beliefs as pork is to a muslim. Would muslims accept a pork factory in the vicinity of a mosque?
  41. 1 point
    *URGENT* Property Sale or Rent: URGENT REQUEST TO ALL There is potential of a halal meat shop opening in close proximity of Singh Sabha Gurdwara Sahib Somerset Road Handsworth Wood. The landlord has been made aware of the offence meat sale at the premises will cause to the Sikh Community which indeed will result in an outright objection by Sikhs across UK who fundamentally condemn this. While he understands this as an issue, he as a businessman has indicated the loss he is making with a vacant property. It is a MIXED USE commercial property with self-contained accommodation above. The property already has a constant rental income for the accommodation. There are 2 urgent options proposed to the Sikh Community: Purchase of the property (Currently on market for £149,995, offers are invited) Letting the property on a long-term lease As the Gurdwara are not currently in a position to undertake either of the above options, *we* *are calling upon anyone that may be interested in pursuing the request* Specifications of the property with both options can be made available upon request. The property is located on Somerset Road, Handsworth Wood, Birmingham, B20 2JG. For further information or to express an interest please contact Mandeep Singh, Committee Member of Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Handsworth Wood on 07584374686 or email any inquiries to singhsabhagurdw ara@live.com. We urge all members of the sangat to spread this advertisement as much as possible. Thank you- Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Somerset Road.
  42. 1 point
    I think you mean Bradford. However, legal action is never a gimmie. It is, moreover, costly. If the halal meat seller does buy the property, there would need to be a planning application to the local council for change of use because the shop is currently a beauty salon. As a neighbour, the Gurdwara would have the right to oppose any application, therefore, the first recourse would be to the local council. However, the anticipated success or failure of this approach depends very much on council policy. I am no expert on this specific area. What I do know is that pak muslims have majority influence in Birmingham just through sheer volume of presence through population. Given many of the councillors, and even the MPs, are muslim, I fear that a challenge to a planning application would simply be brushed aside. Let's not be coy about this. It will be the latter.
  43. 1 point
    I don't want either to win. I've seen enough of pr1cks (like badal and amarinder) that couldn't care less. Opinion polls vary, depending on who you listen to any of the three frontrunners could obtain a majority. Given the lack of clarity I would expect a hung parliament. It will then be up to the party that can rope in the highest number of opportunistic grasshoppers to seek to form a majority. Panjab politics is notoriously fickle. Congress is the party that executed the Sikh Genocide. Badal Dal is the party that tacitly supported it. BJP is the one that demanded it. These three parties have raped Panjab for long enough.
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  46. 1 point
    its war time with these half cut goat beardos
  47. 1 point
    Back to the topic at hand. I think you should baisicaly just point out sikhis stance on tolerance of other religions, women's rights
  48. 1 point
    Lets not wish he dies that'd be too much lets just hope he becomes a vegetable or something
  49. 1 point
    Whens the last time you heard of a christian strapping a bomb on himself and blowing himself up? There is a problem with Islam and its a threat to all of us.
  50. 1 point
    This is an excellent initiative and I commend it highly. If it could be formalised (i.e. a website or at the very least a blogspot), I believe such a list could be turned into a powerful database to document evidence of horrific unashamed sexual abuse committed scarily exclusively by members of one community in particular. This would help journalists, lawmakers, law enforcers and groups working for victims better understand why there is a problem with this type of behaviour in a section of the Pakistani Muslim community, and therefore come to a conclusion and develop solutions for what to do about it.