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  1. The urban sikhs in India don't do our image any good with the way they wear little babies' patkas well into their late 20's. I find it ridiculous. So....lets sort this problem by sorting ourselves out first. Get the urban india sikhs to look like men when they are men....instead of immature children.....and maybe we won't all be portrayed as immature fools. Its not the complete solution....but its a start.
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  2. Typical missionary thought.. Same people who are attacking baba deep singh jees legacy are also calling Harmandir sahib as "Dukkan" and calling sarovar a waste and parkarma a faltu hindumat. They are also writing books saying that Guru Arjan Dev went unconscious once he sat on taathi tavii.. Such blasphemous thoughts is nothing new but is present in our kaum for probably last hundred year.... however good thing is that they are extremely low in numbers and they don't have pea size knowledge about gurmat gyan.. Still disgusting to read such ill thoughts toward our sikh history and religion... chalo chrassey lakh joona deh appay chakar khan gay..
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  3. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh, Dear Sangat Ji, I have had a question swilling around in my head for a while now and I thought I'd share it with you all so that I could get some of your views and experiences. I notice when I go to the Gurdwara that sometimes a Jatha will come from some place and will distribute DVDs with Katha or Paath or something else on it. I sometimes do the same at the Gurdwara too. Now, on the weekends I notice that no matter where you go in London, where I live, where there is a significant ethnic minority population you will see Muslims and Christians (and increasingly Mormons - who, of course, consider themselves to be Christians) on the streets preeching their religion and giving out leaflets and CDs and books to attract people from other faiths to theirs. My question is why don't we do this? Is it right for us to do this too? Did not Guru Nanak travel all over the Arab lands, all over India and beyond to preach to others? Did not Baba Deep Singh Ji transliterate the Guru Granth Sahib into Arabic and send it to (to the best of my limited knowledge) Iraq? Why do we just preach to the converted? I am not saying that doing parchaar in the Gurdwara is useless - that would be a silly thing to say, because that is what a Gurdwara is for (among other things). What I am saying is that should we not preach to Sikhs and also to non-Sikhs? I'd love to hear your comments on this issue. Sachin
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  4. God has the power to do anything, and yes that also means change the laws of physics! I you don't believe that, then you probably don't believe in god either. And they aren't just fantasy stories, go to Panja sahib you'll see guru Nanak Dev jis hand print, go to trebeni sahib and you'll see the river there, go and eat the sweet rithas from only one tree.. Try and explain those in laws of physics.. You won't be able to!!
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  5. You may be aware that the SGPC has requested Sikh organisations and individuals to give their views regarding the June 1984 Memorial. See the front page of the SGPC web site: http://www.sgpc.net/, which requests responses in writing by 28 July 2011. The Sikh Federation (UK) has today sent a letter via email to the SGPC regarding the June 1984 Memorial. We suggest Gurdwaras, Sikh organisations and individual Sikhs to keep sending emails to info@sgpc.net along the following lines, or you can simply copy and paste this email. Please forward this link to all your friends and family. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh We request the June 1984 Memorial to be: i) a constant reminder of the Indian army assault on the Akaal Takht in June 1984; ii) built in a prominent position next to the Akaal Takht iii) built by a specified target date i.e. June 2012 as the memorial is long overdue; and above all else iv) reflect the words of Sant Jarnail Singh Khalsa Bhindranwale, namely: "Let it be known, when the Indian Army sets foot into the Golden Temple Complex, the foundation stone of Khalistan will be laid." Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh http://sgpc.cjb.net/
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  6. Actually panth is awakening thats why these pakhandis are getting exposed on every second day.
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  7. Thanks for the comments by amandy and bhunda , as for santlicifer stop being sooo rude and ignorant its people like you that tarnish sikhism ..Back to the topic - it does break my heart to hear the verbal abuse thats goes on .. People reading topic will understand what im talking about :mushroombounce:
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  8. Let's just work on getting our Panjabi 'Sikhs' into Sikhi, then we'll think about preaching to others.
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  9. im not blamming, them sikhi was preached to them, theyve taken it and mizzed there weston and hippies way into sikhi where there vichars are off the rador when it comes to sikhi http://gurmukhyoga.c...ndex.php?id=324 Wat`s naive about it ? lolol its clear exaple of wat preaching sikhi out of the dharam does !!! now look at there rehait and there day to day activites and see for yourself
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  10. i personally disagre with this. I know people say how do will we get khalsa raj if more people dont embrace sikhi. Do we want khalsa raj if it means beadbi of the Sikhi saroop. Look at 3HO if we havent learnt from these hippies what more will it take. If Akal Purkh wanted you to b a sikh you would of been born into a Sikhi family. It my own opnion so if i offended u i was not ment to Bhul Chuk Mafee
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  11. There is complete and utter equality between the sexes in Sikhi, Kally. On the one hand you criticise muslims while on the other hand you think like a muslim and think a Kaur is by nature a weak vulnerbale second class human that needs 'saving' and 'protecting'. Within every community there are young men that wish to satisfy their sexual desire by seducing easy prey. We've got plenty such men in our community round these parts too. Its not the fault of a muslim male if a sikh girl or two falls into the trap. Frankly, as far as I'm concerned, Sikhi is better off without the thicko's. We don't play the numbers game. Theirs is about quantity. Ours is about quality. There's plenty of muslim girls with Sikh men around here in west london. I would find it very funny and silly if muslim males were making threads about it on their message forums. They....just like you....should concentrate on setting the right example for your sisters.
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  12. Its the passive comments like the ones above that makes matters worst, Its the muslims that practice brain washing , how many girls do you know that have eloped with muslims - got pregnant with a few kids then just thrown away like rubbish . but the we all say " its their fault its our own fault " i know plenty of girls that have good understanding of sikhi but still fall in the hands of the musul maan.. as for cool waters how many muslim girls to the ratio of sikh girls can you tell me ??.. and when muslim girl goes with a non muslim she is never asked to convert like the musul maan do ... I feel that people are to scared to comment on this site - ive had almost 300 views and only 3 replies .. what cowards we have amongst us sikhs - shame on you that think but dont do ...
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  13. Sikhi believes in logic and reason, however Sikhi also believes in faith, devotion and Guru Jee/Akaal Purakh can make the impossible possible. Logically it is impossible for a "human being" to sit on an iron plate, have hot sand poured over the head and still repeat "I accept Your Will Sweetly". Logically it is impossible for a "human being" to be boiled alive and calmly recite Japji Sahib in bliss. The list goes on. There is no limit to Guru Jee/Akaal Purakh's blessings. If Guru nanak sahib can stop stone with one hand and his panja is still in the stone, if guru gobind singh sahib produce trebeni with one blow of neja on ground in guru ka lahor, if Guru sahibs horse can make water come out of the ground with his one foot blow in the area where is impossible to get water other wise, especially when sikhs have made big buildings around , without getting a drop of water out of the ground, if Reethas can be sweet, if Bhai Bidhi chand sheena can enter into burning furnace, If Bhai Randheer Singh ji and whole sangat witness a singh flying and doing parkarma of guru Granth sahib,Why can't Baba Deep singh shaheed hold his head on his palm and fight. Everything is logical, important thing is how to understand a logic. Remote control, TV, Planes, Tanks, mobile phones, internet, electricity, computers, iphone, tube lights and many many more things were illogical some years ago as well. Everything is logical, people just need to understand logic in proper manner. To understand logic of Baba Deep singh ji's shaheedi, you need to be drowned in the logic of NAAM RAS.
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  14. Taken from http://abhiyaas.blogspot.com/2006/04/gyaan-divine-knowledge_30.html Gyaan: Divine-Knowledge (Ang 465) ਘੜੀਆ ਸਭੇ ਗੋਪੀਆ ਪਹਰ ਕੰਨ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਗੋਪਾਲ ॥ ghurreeaa subhae gopeeaa pehur kunnu gopaal All the hours are the milk-maids, and the quarters of the day are the Krishnas. ਗਹਣੇ ਪਉਣੁ ਪਾਣੀ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੁ ਚੰਦੁ ਸੂਰਜੁ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥ gehunae poun paanee baisunthur chundh sooruj avuthaar The wind, water and fire are the ornaments; the sun and moon are the incarnations. ਸਗਲੀ ਧਰਤੀ ਮਾਲੁ ਧਨੁ ਵਰਤਣਿ ਸਰਬ ਜੰਜਾਲ ॥ sugulee dhuruthee maal dhun vuruthan surub junjaal All of the earth, property, wealth and articles are all entanglements. ਨਾਨਕ ਮੁਸੈ ਗਿਆਨ ਿਵਹੂਣੀ ਖਾਇ ਗਇਆ ਜਮਕਾਲੁ ॥੧॥ naanuk musai giaan vihoonee khaae gaeiaa jumukaal O Nanak, without divine knowledge, one is plundered, and devoured by the Messenger of Death. 1 Guru Sahib tells us in this Shabad by Guru Nanak Dev Jee, one will only cross the world Ocean through divine knowledge, without divine knowledge one will be plundered. How do we receive Divine knowledge? Divine knowledge can only be gifted Gurmukh through Guru Sahib, through ones past Karam and profit of Naam. One has to Japna Naam Athai Pehar (24/7) without any Worldly thoughts in ones head, and one will be guided by Guru Sahib himself throughout ones life. One will have no need to read books, search for Gyaan etc, as all the Gyaan is within us, but we are not aware or as close as to ourselves as we should be, this is why we act according to our own Matt (mind), and not Gurmat (Gurus teaching). We will become Gurmat only if the Shabad has been lit within through Guru Sahib, this will help us realize our innerself. ਪੰਡਿਤ ਵਾਚਿਹ ਪੋਥੀਆ ਨਾ ਬੂਝਿਹ ਵੀਚਾਰੁ ॥ punddith vaachehi potheeaa naa boojhehi veechaar The Pandits, the religious scholars, read their books, but they do not understand the real meaning. ਅਨ ਕਉ ਮਤੀ ਦੇ ਚਲਹਿ ਮਾਇਆ ਕਾ ਵਾਪਾਰੁ ॥ an ko muthee dhae chulehi maaeiaa kaa vaapaar They give instructions to others, and then walk away, but they deal in Maya themselves. ਕਥਨੀ ਝੂਠੀ ਜਗੁ ਭਵੈ ਰਹਣੀ ਸਬਦੁ ਸੁ ਸਾਰੁ ॥੬॥ kuthunee jhoothee jug bhuvai rehunee subudh s saar Speaking falsehood, they wander around the world, while those who remain true to the Shabad are excellent and exalted. 6 (Ang 55 ) In this ShabadGuru Sahib explains that the Pandits have so much knowledge through reading the Vedas, Puraanas and many holy books, but their mind is still polluted through Maayaa (worldly entanglements), they give Gyaan to others yet their own minds are filthy. Gyaan will only be received through the blessings of Guru Sahib. ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਜਨੁ ਹਿਰ ਜਲ ਕਾ ਮੀਨਾ ਹਿਰ ਿਬਸਰਤ ਫੂਿਟ ਮਰੈ ॥੩॥ har kaa jun har jul kaa meenaa har bisuruth foott murai The humble servant of the Lord is a fish in the Water of the Lord. Forgetting the Lord, he would dry up and die. 3 (Ang 1263) When we forget Guru Sahib for only a second we will suffer just like the Fish suffers without Water. As Manmukh we will not realize this suffering, the suffering will always be with us through emotion and vice, we will never be happy and content, happiness will only last for seconds. Through Naam it will last life times. Daas has read very little books the very little Gyaan Daas has, has been gifted through Guru Sahib and Naam. Our mind will become relaxed at peace and poised through Naam, this is when we are gifted Gyaan and realization. (Ang 380) ਭ੍ਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸੋਈ ਸਗਲ ਜਗਤ ਧੰਧ ਅੰਧ ॥ bhrum mehi soee sugul juguth dhundh andh The whole world is asleep in doubt; it is blinded by worldly entanglements. ਕੋਊ ਜਾਗੈ ਹਰਿ ਜਨੁ ॥੧॥ kooo jaagai har jun How rare is that humble servant of the Lord who is awake and aware. 1 ਮਹਾ ਮੋਹਨੀ ਮਗਨ ਪਿ੍ਰਅ ਪ੍ਰੀਿਤ ਪ੍ਰਾਨ ॥ mehaa mohunee mugun pria preeth praan The mortal is intoxicated with the great enticement of Maya, which is dearer to him than life. ਕੋਊ ਤਿਆਗੈ ਿਵਰਲਾ ॥੨॥ kooo thiaagai virulaa How rare is the one who renounces it. 2 ਚਰਨ ਕਮਲ ਆਨੂਪ ਹਰਿ ਸੰਤ ਮੰਤ ॥ churun kumul aanoop har sunth munth The Lord's Lotus Feet are incomparably beautiful; so is the Mantra of the Saint. ਕੋਊ ਲਾਗੈ ਸਾਧੂ ॥੩॥ kooo laagai saadhoo How rare is that holy person who is attached to them. 3 ਨਾਨਕ ਸਾਧੂ ਸੰਗਿ ਜਾਗੇ ਿਗਆਨ ਰੰਿਗ ॥ naanuk saadhoo sung jaagae giaan rung O Nanak, in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, the love of divine knowledge is awakened; ਵਡਭਾਗੇ ਕਿਰਪਾ ॥੪॥੧॥੩੯॥ vuddubhaagae kirupaa the Lord's Mercy is bestowed upon those who are blessed with such good destiny. 4139 Guru Sahib explains in this Shabad how the World is suffering through Maayaa, one will only be purified through the Mantra of Guru Sahib. Guru Sahib says in Sangat Divine knowledge is awakened, as one is in single-minded concentration of the Naam whilst in Saadh Sangat. Through this concentration one will be blessed with the knowledge of Divine. Single-minded concentration needs to be Athai Pehar (24/7). We will be gifted Gyaan in many ways through Naam and Guru Sahib, one thing we should never do is ignore the inner Gyaan Guru Sahib has gifted us. Sometimes we ignore this Gyaan coming from Guru Sahib and Naam, thinking it is our own Man matt (filthy mind). One will realize true Gyaan, as this Gyaan will feel 100% right in ones mind, one will feel steadfast, one will realize the Gyaan is true, as the Gyaan will be very positive, keep us humble, and it will be for the benefit of another. (Ang 482) ਸਾਸੁ ਕੀ ਦੁਖੀ ਸਸੁਰ ਕੀ ਪਿਆਰੀ ਜੇਠ ਕੇ ਨਾਿਮ ਡਰਉ ਰੇ ॥ saas kee dhukhee susur kee piaaree jaeth kae naam dduro rae I am bothered by my mother-in-law, Maya, and loved by my father-in-law, the Lord. I fear even the name of my husband's elder brother, Death. ਸਖੀ ਸਹੇਲੀ ਨਨਦ ਗਹੇਲੀ ਦੇਵਰ ਕੈ ਬਿਰਿਹ ਜਰਉ ਰੇ ॥੧॥ sukhee sehaelee nunudh gehaelee dhaevur kai birehi juro rae O my mates and companions, my husband's sister, misunderstanding has seized me, and I am burning with the pain of separation from my husband's younger brother, divine knowledge. 1 ਮੇਰੀ ਮਤਿ ਬਉਰੀ ਮੈ ਰਾਮੁ ਿਬਸਾਿਰਓ ਿਕਨ ਿਬਿਧ ਰਹਿਨ ਰਹਉ ਰੇ ॥ maeree math bouree mai raam bisaariou kin bidh rehan reho rae My mind has gone insane, since I forgot the Lord. How can I lead a virtuous lifestyle? syjY rmqu nYn nhI pyKau iehu duKu kw sau khau ry ]1] rhwau ] saejai rumuth nain nehee paekho eihu dhukh kaa so keho rae He rests in the bed of my mind, but I cannot see Him with my eyes. Unto whom should I tell my sufferings? 1Pause bwpu swvkw krY lrweI mwieAw sd mqvwrI ] baap saavukaa kurai luraaee maaeiaa sudh muthuvaaree My step-father, egotism, fights with me, and my mother, desire, is always intoxicated. ਬਡੇ ਭਾਈ ਕੈ ਜਬ ਸੰਗਿ ਹੋਤੀ ਤਬ ਹਉ ਨਾਹ ਿਪਆਰੀ ॥੨॥ buddae bhaaee kai jub sung hothee thub ho naah piaaree When I stayed with my elder brother, meditation, then I was loved by my Husband Lord. 2 khq kbIr pMc ko Jgrw Jgrq jnmu gvwieAw ] kehuth kubeer punch ko jhuguraa jhuguruth junum guvaaeiaa Says Kabeer, the five passions argue with me, and in these arguments, my life is wasting away. ਝੂਠੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਸਭੁ ਜਗੁ ਬਾਧਿਆ ਮੈ ਰਾਮ ਰਮਤ ਸੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਆ ॥੩॥੩॥੨੫॥ jhoothee maaeiaa subh jug baadhiaa mai raam rumuth sukh paaeiaa The false Maya has bound the whole world, but I have obtained peace, chanting the Name of the Lord. 3325 Vaho Bhagat Kabeer Jee, how amazing and blessed was this Saint, who received amazing knowledge through the Divine Guru. This Shabad explains it all. This Gyaan through Naam will bring us to the Avasthaa (stage) of Sehaj (Nivaana). One will feel untouchable by the World, but on the other hand one will be very humble. This Gyaan will help us get through all worldly affairs in Sehaj, without the mind wandering. One will feel like a Lion, as Guru Gobind Singh Jee said, as one would feel Guru Sahib is always close at hand, but one will always remain Nimaana (humble) to Guru Sahib and his creation. (Ang 3 Bhai Gurdaas Jee Deeaa Varaan) ਸਾਧ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਭਉ ਭਾਉ ਸਿਹਜ ਬੈਰਾਗ ਹੈ॥ saadh sungath bho bhaao sehij bairaag hai Fear (of God) and love (for mankind) being diffused in the holy congregation the sense of non-attachment always prevails. ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸਹਿਜ ਸੁਭਾਉ ਸੁਰਿਤ ਸੁ ਜਾਗ ਹੈ॥ gurumukh sehij subhaao surath s jaag hai By nature, the Gurmukhs remian alert i.e. their consciousness remains attuned to Sabad, the Word. ਮਧੁਰ ਬਚਨ ਆਲਾਉ ਹਉਮੈਂ ਤ੍ਯਾਗ ਹੈ॥ mudhur buchun aalaao houmai thuaag hai They speak sweet words and they have already expelled ego from their selves. ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮਿਤ ਪਰਥਾਉ ਸਦਾ ਅਨੁਰਾਗ ਹੈ॥ sathigur math puruthaao sudhaa anuraag hai Conducting themselves according to the wisdom of the Guru they always remain imbued in love (of the Lord). ਪਿਰਮ ਿਪਆਲੇ ਸਾਉ ਮਸਤਕ ਭਾਗ ਹੈ॥ pirum piaalae saao musuthuk bhaag hai They feeling fortunate quaff the cup of love (of the Lord). ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਜੋਤਿ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾਓ ਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਚਰਾਗ ਹੈ॥ brehum joth brehumaaou guaan churaag hai Realising the light of the Supreme in their mind they become competent to light the lamp of divine knowledge. ਅੰਤਰ ਗੁਰਮਤ ਚਾਉ ਅਲਿਪਤ ਅਦਾਗ ਹੈ॥ anthur gurumuth chaao aliputh adhaag hai Due to the wisdom obtained from Guru they have unlimited enthusiasm and they remain untouched by maya and the dirt of the evil propensities. vIh iekIh cVwau sdw suhwg hY ]ñó] veeh eikeeh churraao sudhaa suhaag hai In the context of worldliness, they always conduct themselves in a superior position i.e. if the world is twenty, they are twenty one. Bhai Gurdaas Jee has shown the amazing qualities of a Lion (Gursikh) in this Shabad. People in general will realize this amazing character and quality in one and usually tend to share their problems, as Guru Sahib says in Baanee one will always suffer through this filthy mind which has not been purified through Naam. Their desires will leave them suffering through stress and depression, their mind will never be content, and they will never find peace and happiness, as they have not realized their coming and going in this world, and above all they have not realized Guru Sahib and Naam. The amazing thing is when people in general share their suffering with a Gursikh who Japs Naam, they will always walk away contented, as the Gurmukh will give them the perfect cure through the words of Guru Sahib and Naam. This is the power of Gyaan (divine knowledge). (Ang 19 Bhai Gurdaas Jee Deeaa Vaaraan) ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਸਾਧ ਅਸਾਧ ਸਾਧ ਵਖਾਣੀਐ॥ gurumukh saadh asaadh saadh vukhaaneeai Gurmukh accomplishes the intractable and hence is called sadhu. ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਬੁਧਿ ਿਬਬੇਕ ਿਬਬੇਕੀ ਜਾਣੀਐ॥ gurumukh budh bibaek bibaekee jaaneeai Gurmukh has such wisdom, which is competent to separate water from milk. This is why he is called wise. ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਭਾਉ ਭਗਤਿ ਭਗਤ ਪਛਾਣੀਐ॥ gurumukh bhaao bhugath bhuguth pushaaneeai The devotion of gurmukh is loving devotion. ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨ ਿਗਆਨੀ ਬਾਣੀਐ॥ gurumukh brehum giaan giaanee baaneeai Since the gurmukhs attain divine knowledge, they are called knowledgeable ones (jnanis). ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਪੂਰਣ ਮਤਿ ਸ਼ਬਦ ਨੀਸਾਣੀਐ॥ gurumukh poorun math shubudh neesaaneeai Gurmukhs have the wisdom fully stamped and marked by the Word. ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਪਉੜੀ ਪਤਿ ਿਪਰਮ ਰਸ ਮਾਣੀਐ gurumukh pourree path pirum rus maaneeai Climbing the stairs of high regards, the gurmukh enjoys the delight of love of the beloved Lord. Bhai Gurdaas Jee explains the Gurmukh being different from every other being in the Universe, as the Gurmukh is blessed with loving devotion by Guru Sahib of Naam. Divine knowledge will only come through Naam and Guru Sahib, why waste time let us change the face of the Earth through the teachings of Gurbaanee and the loving devotion of Naam.
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  15. Get your fungal infection sorted out, it will take time but it can be done within a year. Depending on how bad it is, you can sort it at home with a kit called Curanail, and the skin can be sorted out with a cream called Lamisil. If it is more severe then go see a doctor, wearing socks is only going to make the infection worse cos your feet are sweating even more in socks. Keep your feet clean and dry, apply the medication and you should be sorted.
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  16. Just came across the following link: http://satkaarcampai...at-camp-at.html Good work by Satkaar to do grassroots parchaar on Satkaar where it is needed. I think this was the Gurdwara that meat and alcohol going at parties right next to Maharaaj's Darbar.
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  17. lol Well if i cared enough i would fly over. I had no camera at the time. Did you want me to pick up the cigs and post them to you? Well if the people walking past are competing for the olympics then it might be them...but they would have to throw the butts about 50 metres into the Gurdwara premises. It could be the walking past walk around the gurdwara and hall and smoke and the gurdwara can't control this. Or it could be the people partying at the hall who smoke, obviously it would be highly stupid to ask the gurdwara to control this because it is the gurdwara who allows them to book parties and have alcohol and tobacco in the first place. If i cared enough i would evidence all of this but i don't. You seem to care a lot about something...not sure what it is yet but you are getting quite worked up about it. Take a chill pill. Can mods please rename jalandhar from sher to Billi. Thanks.
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  18. The same Guru Ji also says jo AwieAw so clsI sBu koeI AweI vwrIAY ] jo aaeiaa so chalasee sabh koee aaee vaareeai || Whoever has come, shall depart; all shall have their turn.
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  19. Please get intouch with mod HSingh, he can help?
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  20. AkaalPukh does not work like that. You cannot say to God show me this sign, it has to be like this, at such'n'such a place, at a given time limit etc. God is not there for you to ask of like this. This is a bit like in Simpsons, Homer praying to God with a plate of cookies infront of him and in his prayers he says "God here is a plate of cookies for you but if you want me to eat them then don't send me any sign" What maybe you should have done is gone to Gurdwara and taken a mukh-vaak, and from the shabbad gotten your answer because Guru Ji speaks to you through shabbad. All that has happened here is you have asked God to give you a specific answer and you have seen it in coincedence.
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  21. Soya chunks taste like chicken. The meat tastes good, so you can buy replicated 'Bacon' Sausages etc. But that does not mean you enjoy indulging in eating meat, after all it's just the flavouring in the latter.
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  22. Maryada is that Anand Karajs must happen in Gurdwaras. Refer to Akal Takht Sahib hukamnama 1998 and sandesh 2006. If you want to do a Gursikh wedding then do it in a Gurdwara and help in trying to change to perception of the Anand Karaj. There is enough beadbi of Guruji and the Anand Karaj. Please to not add to it.
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  23. There is historical evidence that Guru Nanak Dev Ji travelled as far as Turkey. Turkey is known as the gateway to Europe and only a stones throw away from Italy. If Guru Ji visited the centre of islam (Mecca/medina) and visited hindu centres of Hardwar and Banaras and travelled into Nepal where the buddhists still remember Him, then there is no reason why Guru Ji shouldn't have visited the centre of Christianity. I have heard rumours that in the vaults of the Vatican there are records that two holy men visited from the east............
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  24. Hello, Baba Mann Singh has mentioned about an historical event regarding Guru Nanak Dev ji, which is not evident in any historical scriptures or any witness statements from that time period. I have heard this story many times and its famously told by Babay of the modern era. The Sikh religion has a good number of followers in the west, to encourage the westerners (Whites and Blacks) to join the Sikh ranks, stories are told in this manner. So they may feel a belonging within the group. Everyone has an opinion and we could make the assumption that the Baba was giving his own opinion of events that could have occurred 300 years ago. If we review history and the stories during post migration to the West by Sikhs, there is no mention of Guru Nanak Dev ji, talking a foot into the West. We do have eye witness accounts and stories from Middle east, South and North regions of India. Any historical evidence of this occurrence in the West are only stories that are told by Babay in the modern age, there is no historical evidence of such event.
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  25. My friend you are assuming, there is no fact about this occurrence took place. Regarding the Vatican, it's a myth and like you have mentioned, rumors. If Guru Nanak did visit the center of Christianity(Vatican), did he also visit the center place of the Jews (Israel)? Going on just facts alone, which are gathered from historical artifacts, we can make a strong assumption that Guru Nanak did go to the places you have mentioned regarding Islam, Hinduism and Buddhist .
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  26. I don't see anything wrong with it..as long as the marayeada is followed
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  27. Im disgusted by the total hypocrisy shown by the members of this forum, showing without doubt, why the Sikh Community is easily ridiculed and has never had any importance in the world since the Khalsa Raj. First and foremost can even one imbecile on this forum please evidence even 1 example of ANY gurdwara that turns a blind eye to TOBACCO in the gurdwara? Yet many of the posts here refer to tobacco along with all other accusations for pure sensationalism. Further, please provide evidence of which Ramgharia gurdwaras have photos of deities (Vishwakarma) in the gurdwara?? I am not "Ramgharia" just so you know. And in the same breath, I can think of many examples including Slough Singh Sabha and South Birmingham Stratford Road Gurdwara that openly have photos of Bhindrawale with a necklace of bullets and an AK47 referred to as "Sant". So on the one hand you are saying that Ramgharia gurdwaras (not evidenced) have pictured of deities, and on the other, that its ok to have photos of a militant that indirectly resulted in the deaths of hundreds of sangat members, turning a holy place into a battleground, treated like a new "guru" in the gurdwara?? You idiots. Your arguments dont even have any logic. Remember 10 Gurus. Full stop. Not 10 gurus + any militant who walks into harminder sahib. If someone did what he did to Mecca, would the muslim community celebrate that and treat him as the next prophet? Further, in your argument about sitting on floors and not sitting on floors for langar, if you had truly studied and understood the SGGS, you will notice that for langar it is a community kitchen provided by the gurdwara, which requires that everyone be at the same level. Nowhere does it say in the SGGS that it must be eaten whilst sat on the floor. If you know better, please evidence the slok from SGGS. And if you are going by the logic that people sat on the floor in Guru Nanak's time, at that time, langar only consisted of Daal roti, so can we please have some "anti beadbi" marches against ALL gurdwaras that serve chanay, subjee and dhai in the langar? Also, in Guru Gobind Singh Ji's time, people fought with swords. Is Jarnail singh Bhindrawale then not committing beadbi by using an AK47? Also, can we please remove toilet roll from all gurdwara toilets as this did not exist in Guru Nanak's time and this must be beadbi. Please also remove gurdwara central heating systems as these did not exist and we will need anti-beadbi riots like what you imbeciles did in Derby to campaign against this. Also any member of the sangat not wearing khaddar is also committing beadbi as Levi 501s did not exist in Guru Nanak's time.............. And also please quote sections of SGGS which says that a sikh can ONLY marry a sikh?? Again I am not married, but shocked by your collective ignorance. And the majority of you talk about not paying any attention to caste - how many of you describe yourself as "jatt sikh" for the purposes of marriage? How many of you jatts married non jatt sikh partners. And if you ever see a mature sikh - totally clean shaven, I assure you he will be jatt. You hypocritical idiots. And which community are world famous for excessive drinking, predominantly meat diets, lack of educational achievement and a total lack of refinement? Thats right Jatts. So what is this holier than though crap you are spouting here??? And I can tell you with some confidence, that if you go to the universities up and down the country, firstly you will see very few sikhs at all in the best establishments e.g. Oxford and Cambridge, because perfectly illustrated by the level of education and intelligence shown on this forum, our community is not intelligent. Most importantly, you need to understand that sikhism is not a religion run like islam. We do not issue fatwas and blindly follow egomaniacs. And if you want to engage in proper debate, evidence every accusation, and quote where in our religion it says that. Or in absence of that, keep your uneducated mouths shut, as all you serve to do is to show up our community to the world that we are ALL imbeciles.
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  28. You go Genius. Also if you want to order or make your Soorma bow check out http://www.silverarrowarchery.co.uk/. I made my Soorma bow with them lol. Fancy a archery contest? Or are you to busy learning REAL GATKA, as you going to take on advance military weapons, with your sword and bow. JAI HIND.
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  29. I believe that 30 sikhs could fight against a standoff of thousands, that is because I have understanding of the strategies, techniques and military prowess of the old Singhs. You see it as a karamaat, I see it as logical tactical deployment. If Baba Deep Singh was one of the greatest warriors in the Panth, how can you even begin to accept that he was caught off guard so much that he allowed his head to be taken clean off?
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  30. Fetah Jee when i first come into sikhi it really helped when i used to eat veg chicken burgers veg saugages to help intrigrate with the rehait. but i stopped becuase "MY" own beliefs were that if ive given up eating meat how can i justify eating a veggy chicken burger, am doing this for the taste. this is going back a few years but this week a gora co worker was talking about a smokeless cigarate, it contains water vapour so could we not justify smoken that ? (not saying im gonna take up smoken this new cigarate) it got me thinking about these veggie burgers just wonder what the sangats take was on this topic
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  31. No disrespect but can you please explain this to me? How is this possible? Did the human body function differently in 1700's? Science has proven, once the head is removed from the body, a person is lifeless. This is correct. So what is scientific basis behind occurrence with Baba Deep Singh?
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  32. Why do we always want to know whether one is jatt, chamar , chura, patra , thakan etc .. everyone does it so i dont want any comments like " in sikhism tehre is no cast system " which i would beg to defer ( pardon the pun) espiacally Jatts, the amount ive time herad jatts slag off chamars patra's etc .. its rude and very disrespectful ..... I would like some comments on this as i know you know what im on about ..
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